All I have to say is, this is very disappointing. Oh, and despicable
After a raucous hearing, a Manhattan community board backed a proposal on Tuesday evening to build a Muslim community center near the World Trade Center.
The 29-to-1 vote, with 10 abstentions, followed a four-hour back-and-forth between those who said the community center would be a monument to tolerance and those who believed it would be an affront to victims of the 2001 terrorist attacks.
The board’s vote was advisory — it did not have the power to scrap plans for a center — but it was seen as an important barometer of community sentiment.
Yes, there are mosques all over the country. Most of them are for good folks. And many teach the harsh version of Islam, the one where the infidel is to be killed and women are to be treated as property. No one knows where the money for this “community center” is coming from. Quite a bit is from overseas. What do they believe?
C. Lee Hanson, 77, whose son Peter was killed in the attacks, said he opposed the center not because he was intolerant, but because he believed that building a tribute to Islam so close to the World Trade Center would be insensitive.
Obviously, the people building the center could care less. Personally, I could care less about being called intolerant, when it comes to building a religious center near the site where Islamists killed 2,996 of our friends, neighbors, and loved ones. It’s disgusting. Perhaps the people pushing for this center should think about being sensitive themselves.
Jean Grillo, 65, a writer from TriBeCa, said shutting out any faith undermined American values. “What better place to teach tolerance than at the very area where hate tried to kill tolerance?†she said.
Tell you what, Jean: when the RoP starts showing a bit of tolerance, we might consider it. Why not ask them about building a Christian church in the Middle East, and see how that goes?
Fortunately, this still must pass a vote by the Landmarks Preservation Commission, seeing a vote perhaps by July. Let’s hope there aren’t enough left wing wankers on that board to allow this project to go forward.
Pam Gellar (Atlas Shrugs) was there and spoke. Check it out.
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Of course this is a local matter and should be decided by those who live here, not xxxx miles away.300 muslims were murdered on 9/11, including muslim first responders who went in to save the lives of others. People who live here in New York do NOT hate muslims. We hate the terrorists who attacked the greatest city in the USA but, not all who are of that religion. And Teach please tell us what percentage of muslims live in the “mideast” Probably the greatest outrage against christians in the mideast happened after we ousted Saddam. Over 50% of the christiansof the 1.5 MILLION in Iraq were forced to flee for their lives and are still unable to return. Both the sunni and the shia blame them for being allied with the USA. These christian refugees, Teach, should we give them asylum in the USA. Or should we simply denounce the muslims for their behavior ?
We hate the terrorists who attacked the greatest city in the USA but, not all who are of that religion.
I have found nothing that supports that assertion. In fact, quite the opposite: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/28/AR2005042801315.html
Of course this is a local matter and should be decided by those who live here, not xxxx miles away.
The COUNTRY was attacked, not just NYC. I don’t remember NYC saying to the Federal government “please don’t send us aid because our city was attacked.”
The fact of the matter is that no one would support a Nazi memorial near Auschwitz. No one would support a memorial to Japan within Pearl Harbor. There is no memorial to John Wilkes Booth at Ford’s Theater.
There is something offensive about this. Failure to acknowledge that is either denying the truth or being obtuse.
Screech sure likes to tell other folks what they should/shouldn’t be doing in their neighborhoods. I doubt he’d want someone else to call for a ban on his outdated style of dress in the area he calls home. Because he knows best what is good for his neighborhood. And apparently everyone else’s too.
“There is something offensive about this. Failure to acknowledge that is either denying the truth or being obtuse.”
There is nothing offensive about this. Failure to acknowledge that and attempting to block construction of a place of worship is awfully big gubment of you boys. Please let the people of lower manhattan decide what is/isn’t built in their backyard.
There is nothing offensive about this.
Thanks for proving my point.
Failure to acknowledge that and attempting to block construction of a place of worship is awfully big gubment of you boys.
You mean government never says where or what can be built? Does WalMart know about this? You want to throw out all nationally mandated building codes? You want to throw out ADA restrictions and specifications on buildings?
Please let the people of lower manhattan decide what is/isn’t built in their backyard.
The fact of the matter is that this is broader than lower Manhattan. It is of national interest and invites national comment and scrutiny.
Reasic posing as bun-bun again? How sad.
Squatter- I don’t know Reasic. I already told your dumb ass this. Still don’t believe me? Ask BigDork over at onebigdog.net. Or try my girl Mao at caosblog. Or ask BigFag, Duncan or Raven at andrightlyso. They all know the name Bunny Colvin.
GC- you just don’t like “Muzzies” as the abovementioned BigDork calls them. Don’t try to dress it up some other way. It makes you much less of the “real American” that I’m sure you claim to be when you do so. Just come on out and let your hate shine upon us. Keep it real.
GC- you just don’t like “Muzziesâ€
Well, this is simply projection on your part or another great example of your lack of logic and critical thinking.
Clearly you are unable to address any substantive points and can only resort to insults and diversions.
“Clearly you are unable to address any substantive points and can only resort to insults and diversions.”
Clearly you are mistaken. Let’s start with this nugget of yours…”You mean government never says where or what can be built? Does WalMart know about this?”
I thought you small gubment guys were opposed to effective regulation. Very confusing. I’m all in favor of gubment saying where and what can be built. And I’d prefer no WalMarts near my house. Immediately my property value would plummet, with all this new riffraff in the neighborhood.
Where has the gubment ever said that a mosque (or other place of worship) shouldn’t be built?
Please, give us some more of your “substantive points”, GC.
I thought you small gubment guys were opposed to effective regulation.
The hypocrisy here is that you believe that the government should allow a mosque while limiting WalMart or something that you disagree with to be built. After all, it was you who wrote “Screech sure likes to tell other folks what they should/shouldn’t be doing in their neighborhoods” and yet you want to do the same.
Immediately my property value would plummet, with all this new riffraff in the neighborhood.
Just can’t make a comment without insulting someone can you?
Where has the gubment ever said that a mosque (or other place of worship) shouldn’t be built?
Why do you think RLUIPA was passed? Even today, still municipalities challenge churches from building or expanding.
Maybe you should read Church of the Hills of Township of Bedminster v. Township of Bedminster or Cottonwood Christian Center v. Cypress Redevelopment Agency. That way instead of just insulting people and making trollish comments, you can actually contribute to the discussion.
No, no. You got it wrong again. I don’t want WalMart in MY neighborhood. I couldn’t care less if you build a WalMart on every corner in your neck of the woods.
LIKE I SAID, Screech sure likes to tell other folks what they should/shouldn’t be doing in their neighborhoods. I don’t tell people what they should/shouldn’t do in their neighborhood. Just don’t tell me what should go down in mine.
Then don’t tell us what we can do in Arizona, reasic. Or for that matter, the other 17 states and counting, which are adopting laws similar to that of Arizona.
I don’t tell people what they should/shouldn’t do in their neighborhood. Just don’t tell me what should go down in mine.
As Otter points out, then don’t say anything about the Arizona law.
Furthermore, the area in question is a National Shrine. You would think that some sensitivities would be brought forth, but apparently people such as yourself only care when you are insulted and not when others are insulted.
The City Council meeting that was held in Manhattan was packed with people against allowing the mosque to be built because of the closeness to the WTC. Only one person against it was allowed to speak.
Now you may think that is fine and dandy. I think it is appropriate to say that what happened is not the way government should work and respond to the people.