Sorry, sorry, my bad, I got that headline backwards
Girls not allowed – Coed troops exemplify the work ethic, leadership and camaraderie of the Boy Scouts. So why aren’t they welcome at all levels of scouting?
Because they’re the ……. Boy Scouts?
After a few paragraphs spend discussing a mixed sex outdoors adventure, the BG treats us to
This could be the future of a new Boy Scouts of America. This is its 100th anniversary, and, as many know, its future is uncertain. Scout membership has withered since the 1970s from 4.8 million to 2.8 million. While its “on my honor’’ community values remain timeless and its outdoor program is needed more than ever in a nation that is 27-percent obese, the Boy Scouts of America has diminished itself with stale positions on social issues.
One way it can modernize on a massive scale is to invite girls to participate, from Cub Scout to Eagle Scout.
Notice that there is not call for the Girl Scouts to do the same? Why is it not OK with these dipsh*t liberal busybodies to just let boys be boys? Plus, as we all know, at the Cub Scout age, all girls have cooties. But, I suppose it would be a really Great Idea to mix young men and women on overnight camping trips and such, because there’s no problem with teen pregnancy or anything…..OK, getting too serious for a Saturday evening. How about, instead, these liberal wankers create a new scouting group, and just leave the Boy Scouts, a liberal pet peeve (perhaps that’s why so many liberal boys grow up to carry man bags, wear unisex clothes, and get cramps once a month), alone.
I thought The Explorers program was open to girls years ago.
As was Campfire (nee Campfire Girls).
And the pregnancy thing is a nasty artifact of closed minds. Marching bands, church groups, and a number of school-connected programs are coed.
Behaviour is a supervision, training (of both kids and advisors), and expectations issue.
You owe a lot of kids an apology.
(Full disclosure: I am 71 years old, but I have worked with a lot of good kids over the years. I don’t know the facts, but I’ll bet more pregnancies result from kids being left unattended at home while parents party or work than result from a marching band tour in the same period.)
Marching bands, church groups, and school connected programs do not tend to spend time camping out in the woods.
I owe no one an apology for simply offering my opinion. It’s almost like you are against free speech, Larry.
Meanwhile, why can’t you libs just let the Boy Scouts alone? What is the big bugaboo in Liberal World about them?
I think that it is a call for the 2 organizations to merge and simply become one organization. Over course this would also cut down on the number of homosexual pedophile scoutmasters. A problem that for too long the BSA tried to coverup
“And the pregnancy thing is a nasty artifact of closed minds. Marching bands, church groups, and a number of school-connected programs are coed.”
Yeah, and I guess you don’t hear of the sexcapades that occur during band-camps and church-camps. And since when do Marching Bands do outdoor adventure trips?!?!?!
I tell you what though, I would have stayed in Boy Scouts a whole lot longer if there were girls that also liked to slip in to a tent and curl up in to a sleeping bag.
Talk about earning a merit badge!
Well, I had daughters in a marching band for several years, traveled with the band myself quite a bit I don’t remember thee ever being any such event in that time, which included travel bu bus to a lot of Canada, down to southern California (don’t remember if they ever went south of Hemet), east to Burns, Cheyenne, Boulder, and it would take me a while to remember ther rest of the places.
The standard quarters was a National Guard Armory or a High School Gym, with everybody in the same room.
So you are right, I never hear…. and neither do you from a credible source.
I attended church camps most of my school years–there were stories about what went on in the staff quarters, but I have never heard of a verifiable event your warped mind imagines.
Your final paragraph kind of confirms my suspicion that your who view of sexuality is based on your fantasy’s and a magazine you found in a back alley.
And for the other guy, I was in the Scouts from the time I was old enough to be a Cub until I got too busy with other things in High School. I never once heard of any such thing, even though we did hear about strange stuff from Scouts who were also acolytes.
I do recall wondering why there were so many kids around the convent down the street named “Jesus”, and “Maria”.
Did I mention the high school program two of my daughters participated heavily in–called “MBR” if you want to check it out–I couldn’t find anything on-line. Involved kids camping, canoeing, hiking (Death Valley), trail restoration, and a number of ecology-related tasks including very small mixed groups working in the habitat-recreations on-campus that very frankly provide more privacy and opportunity that anything I can imagine.
Those of you that are sick and twisted are really in the minority.
Larry,
Respectfully, times have changed. It is easy to say that you have never heard of anything like this your daughters (who I am guessing are in the 40’s area) went to school, or when you we traveling with a band some 20 years ago.
You didn’t even have a cell phone those days.
Back in the day, you could put kids in separate rooms and that would be the end of it. Now they still communicate via texting. You don’t think that has an impact?
I live a area that is tourist dependent. I see large buses of kids come in all the time and the havoc they raise. Twenty years ago Florida destinations such as Daytona and Fort Lauderdale actively sought kids on Spring Break. Now both towns discourage it and do not provide advertising for it.
Why do you think that is?
While I respect your experience, I also know it to be somewhat outdated.
In fact, the band of the local high school is raising money to travel to a competition in Chicago. The list of requirements in clothing, behavior and decorum is staggering.
Do you think that these educators and parents of kids randomly made up these regulations for kicks? Or do you think they are relying on past experience and their knowledge?
Times have changed, Larry.
The marching bands (and drum and bugle corps — pronounced “cores”) still exist.
Church camps still exist.
Boy Scouts still exist — they’ve been in the news lately for booing evil at a bit meeting.
What has changes is media that generates reports on what sells with no regard to what is.
That and elitist adults that think every second of our lives must be watched and controlled.
I was appalled at the reaction to the stories of the young girl making a solo around the world trip.
Most of the world is good solid responsible people. Unfortunately the media and places like this are taken over by the degenerates.
From which I will extract myself before any more of it rubs off on me.
Yes Larry, marching bands still exist. And when they travel, they have different rules than when you and your daughters participated. Why do you put your experience about the experience of others? You would not have any rules based on your experience (back when computers were room sized) and yet you seem to think that people who work and interact with kids today are somehow less informed than you.
That and elitist adults that think every second of our lives must be watched and controlled.
I just want to get this straight….. you are for having girls in the Boy Scouts (and its increased scrutiny of the kids) but think that it is bad that kids are watched on trips.
You don’t see a disconnect there?
I was appalled at the reaction to the stories of the young girl making a solo around the world trip.
I was too. We already had one kid put their life and the lives of others at risk because of her lack of experience on the high seas. Now some family wants to allow their kid to do the same thing.
Unfortunately the media and places like this are taken over by the degenerates.
Ah. Would they be the same people who cannot discuss something without calling others names?
Look in the mirror lately?
From which I will extract myself before any more of it rubs off on me.
That’s fine. I can’t figure out why you would think that the world hasn’t changed in the 2 – 4 decades that you were involved with your kids lives on band trips.
Don’t let reality get in your way.
We deal with segregation of the sexes every day here. Why just yesterday I was informed that I’m no longer allowed into the ladies’ room, just because I’m a man. Bigots!