One has to wonder how much of the support for building an Islamic “cultural center” two blocks from the former site of the World Trade Center by those on Left is actually true support or, instead, their kneejerk response to anything that the American Right is against. Either way, they are going out of their way with lies, distortions, and a pretty good impression of the first two monkeys. Common Dreams: A ‘Mosque’ Should be Built at Ground Zero
Almost a decade since 9/11 it is surprising how little we have learned.  Still plagued by xenophobia and Islamophobia in the U.S., it is hard for many Americans to identify who the enemy actually is in this so-called ‘war on terror’.  Sadly nothing has brought this to light more clearly than the current controversy over the supposed Mosque to be built at Ground Zero.  The troubling aspect of this controversy is that it is not about merely a mosque; it is about Muslims in America, religious freedom and America’s character as an immigrant nation.  This is only reinforced by the epidemic of mosque controversies we see nationwide.
Well, we know who the enemy is: Muslims who actually follow the words of Mohammed and the Koran. The same type who led to 9/11 and all the other terrorist attacks. Let’s check what the Religion of Peace has been up to
And quite a bit of the hate is taught at Islamic cultural centers and mosques, but, in Dhimmi World
Firstly, the debate itself is riddled with inaccuracies.  The proposed building – now called ‘Park 51 Project’ – is to be not only a mosque, but a Cultural Center backed by the Cordoba Initiative1 and will contain a prayer room among its many facilities.  Thereby even use of the term mosque for such a space is up for debate.  Secondly, the building will not be at Ground Zero, but two blocks away and dwarfed by surrounding skyscrapers.  Thirdly, there over 100 mosques in New York City – one of which already exists four blocks from Ground Zero. Following the detractors’ reasoning these mosques should be eliminated.
Quibble quibble quibble, little dhimmi. The spin is amazing!
But each of these facts misses the point. Â Were they not the case, we should still be asking what is the true objection here – given that the religious/cultural center in question is being built by legal permit cleared by the city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission in a country founded upon religious freedom? Â What is wrong with building the center at Ground Zero? Â In fact, a facility that promotes moderate Islam, fosters religious tolerance, and encourages greater understanding is precisely what is needed at the re-emerging site. This Islamic cultural center offers the perfect antidote to radicalism and the opportunity for co-existence and cooperation. Â Our sense of humanity, justice and freedom ought to demand it. Â As writer Pierre Tristam expresses, “it should be an integral part of the rebirth of ground zero because that’s what America stands, or ought to stand, for.“
So, America stands for building something related to the very people who attacked us? Did we build a Shinto shrine at Pearl Harbor? How about a British Monument at Ft. McHenry? Did we integrate the Nazi point of view at the Holocaust Museum? Commiserating and sympathizing with enemies simply emboldens them, and the American Left, as typical, is following right along with the Islamist playbook.
We do not have to look back very far to be reminded that we can co-exist, as did Jews, Christians and Muslims in the city of Cordoba (the very place after which The Cordoba Initiative was named), a flourishing culture of 10th century Spain that was the envy of the medieval world….
The 10th Century? Seriously? One city over a thousand years ago?
Crossed at Right Wing News and Stop The ACLU
I make no bones about it: my problem is with Islam. It is a stupid, false and downright evil religion, and I will have no truck with it. Don’t like my attitude? Tough.
You must be one of those big meanie racist neocon rethugs. What did Islam ever do to you?
/liberal sarcasm off
‘lil LIAR johnnie ryan should arrive with the ‘Petreaus sez da JOOOOOOOOZ!’ meme, any second now….
Hey Otter little buddy still can’t quit thinking about me huh ? Hey i looked up in the Urban Dictionary to see why you c all yourself an Otter” http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=otter Hope I didn’t out you.
But if you want that cite again this is from Haaretz Israel’s largest daily paper http://www.haaretz.com/news/u-s-general-israel-palestinian-conflict-foments-anti-u-s-sentiment-1.264910
Under the headline U.S> General” Israel palestinian conflict foments anti- US sentiment.
This the a first for me being cyber stalked by an “Otter”
The radical right seems to agree with countries like Saudi Arabia that some places of worship should simply not be allowed to be built.
As far as private property rights are concerned I guess that the hard right is flexible on that too. Maybe they should just all get together and offer to buy that land from the muslims ? Teach how much would you give to stop the mosque ?
and yes Teach there is a Shinto temple quite close to Pearl Harbor If the right wing Nazis wanted to build a museum near the Holocaust Museum to give their side of the sory do you think that should be allowed ?
The radical right seems to agree with countries like Saudi Arabia that some places of worship should simply not be allowed to be built.
There are laws that govern the building of anything in this country, Ryan. Or weren’t you aware of that?
Or did you miss these examples of churches being denied building permits because they simply offended the people who lived or worked nearby:
http://www.times-herald.com/Local/Church-denied-permit-957724
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=20146
http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/property-law-real-property-zoning-land-use-planning/12679612-1.html
So the question becomes are you willing to support the churches? Or are you at least willing to support the same standard in NY that was applied to the churches listed above?
Why is it that people like you demand that conservatives “respect” the feelings of people and then feel that the feelings of conservatives (on in this case, the vast majority of people in NYC) can be dismissed?
As far as private property rights are concerned I guess that the hard right is flexible on that too.
I guess you are too busy polluting the earth to encounter building codes and zoning laws.
Being that the mosque is a public accommodation, yet only Muslims will be able to enter it, why do you support the rights of Muslims to discriminate on the basis of religion?
and yes Teach there is a Shinto temple quite close to Pearl Harbor
No there isn’t.
The closest temple is 5 miles away from Pearl Harbor.
When you are driving your truck and see a sign that says “Exit 5 Miles,” do you turn your truck in 300 feet?
Do you really think the distances of 5 miles and several hundred feet are the same thing?
Tell us Ryan why you support a building that will serve as a monument to the destruction of the World Trade Center buildings and the deaths of 3000 Americans?
Why would anyone support that?
I bet you won’t have the guts to reply because once again, you have been caught playing fast and loose with the facts.
Poor pathetic lying bastard johnnie.