John wanted a few, here we go (Any “click larger” applies to the preceding graphic). Data from various sites, including Real Science, C3 Headlines, UN IPCC AR1, and others. I’m creating a new Page for all these, which I will add on over time.
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(Above figure comes from the UN IPCC AR1, disappeared because it was inconvenient)
(Hansen’s GISS trick to disappear the 1930’s warmth, as it was inconvenient)
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You really don’t expect john to either a) look at this of b) accept this as fact, do you?
Keep up the good work.
A) he’ll look, but it’ll take him awhile to formulate a response.
b) no
I have a whole bunch more to add, just have to scan them from a few sources.
Teach that seems to show that we are now warmer than at any time in the last 1000 years. Warmer than during that time that “medieval warming period” Is that correct ?
(time lapse 3 hours)
looks like GC was mistaken again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record
Teach that seems to be ONE study done by German scientists with tree rings. Proxy records from the distant past are not nearly as accurate as more modern ones. But again nice to see that you agree that the world is now hotter than during that medieval warm spell. I guess that tiny bit must have just pushed it over the top.
Here is a graph showing not ONE but 10 proxy studies for the last 2000 years. Perhaps you could place it on your blog for others to see and they might have a chance to compare it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
GC want to guess how long it will take for Teach to post those proxy studies????
Seriously, Wikipedia? That’s what you come back with?
john,
Besides echoing Teach’s comment on Wikipedia (after all, yesterday you demanded primary source material) I couldn’t help but notice that the dates on the studies were rather old. We’ve learned a lot in the last few years alone on how these studies used false and erroneous data.
You have always had an issue with posting sources that don’t give your position and backing or credibility, but this is really a new low.
If the best you can come up with is old, discredited data on Wikipedia, you’ve lost already.
so it looks like we are at about a 1700 year record now that we have broken through that pesky “medieval warming” and my estimate is about .25 degrees and we will go through the Roman Warming record And After that the next record to pop though will be around 5500 year record !! That was the same time as the Great Flood. Jaybus hope THAT doesn’t happen again !!
And John cannot see the trees through his Wikipedia page. What this shows, John, is that there is NOTHING unusual about this warm period. Zip. Nada. Which means determining this as being mostly or solely caused by Man’s actions is absurd and scientific.
of course it was much hotter way back when the dinosaurs were around (assuming that you disbelieve the Bible) but of course there was 2 to 10 times as much C)2 around back then . Hope tha doesn’t happen again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Phanerozoic_Carbon_Dioxide.png
Teach the medieval warming period, which may habve just been local and to which your graph says we have passed is usually thought to have been caused by high sun actibity. The Holocene hot spot by orbital changes in our planet. What do you think is causing us to go over the last record high temp times ? We have been in a 11 year or so cycle of a “dim” sun.
It was anything but local. Both it and the Little Ice Age were global.
Don’t worry, I have more scientific data for you, but, in the meantime, have you given up all fossil fueled travel? Sold your car? Set your AC to 78?