This picture comes from page 193 of The Mad, Mad, Mad World Of Climatism by Steve Goreham (I plan on writing a review as soon as I am done. Getting close. Taking my time. Make sure to get your own copy)
(Click the photo for large view via Photobucket)
Notice the overall power comparisons, especially average delivered power, along with the footprints. While I certainly support alternatives, as I’ve said time and time again, they aren’t ready for primetime. The London Array needs 95 square miles to produce 370 megawatts, while the West County natural gas plant needs .3 square miles to produce 3,263.
Also, from page 191, we learn that on a clear day about 1,000 watts of sun power reaches each square meter of the earth. This is reduced to about 800 watts in the US and Southern Europe at midday. Electrical efficiencies of solar systems is 10-20%. “After accounting for power transmission losses, this means only a single 100 watt bulb can be powered for every card-table-sized surface area of a solar system, and only at noon on a clear day.”
That’s a good table. All it needs now is a row with the (total) cost/megawatt. Although in this day and age, jobs/megawatt might also be an interesting comparison.
Cost is on page 200. Peeked ahead. I’ll see if I can take a picture later.
so…. you’re saying that.. it’s not quite good yet? But hey, if I want to spend $100 to power my lightbulb during the daylight hours… then I should be able to do so and get $75 back from you.
I’m not too sure I agree with that graph. It compares sites of differing power potential. 2 sites are still unbuilt. There are plenty of nuke and coal sites to use as legitimate comparisons.
However, that solar field should make anyone put the quick kibash on further solar construction. 50MW over 2sqKM?!!? Think about that folks.. that’s one large square mile section in a residential area. The tornado through Moore May20 took out quite a bit of one mile section. If there were nothing but transmission lines and solar panels in that area, the whole thing would have been destroyed due to flying debris. And that would be more expensive to replace than all of the homes there now. Meanwhile, all of those living around the solar field will be without power for months.
the price of solar power keeps dropping every year .Fossil fuels keep getting more expensive. New Nukes can’t be built because no one will insure them and without insurance they can not be financed.
Oh john, we have been down this path before. The price of solar panels are dropping because of subsidies and the Chinese flooding the market – so much so that the EU is looking to place a tariff on the importing of Chinese solar panels.
As for nuclear power, once again you seem proud of the fact that people like you want to deny people cheap, affordable energy.
Way to look out for the little people, john.
John is in favor of other people’s tax dollars going to unhealthy, underpowered, easily corroding and breakable, and only lasting 2-12 year solar panels that are no longer made here in the USA in any quantifiable levels.
Instead, he is against subsidizing the construction of long lasting, mega-powerful, clean, environmentally friendly, healthy (if stored correctly), and very small footprint located nuclear power.
John’s type of eco-liberals are also vehemently against natural gas fired power plants. Go figure.
I forgot, it was this book in particular that professors of knowledge at San Jose State U pretended to burn due to their love of knowledge sharing.
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Just bought a copy.
I think what the chart is looking at are some of the most recent examples, and ones that are supposed to show the biggest power among them. The two most important numbers are the power capacity and power density. We can see just how useless, at this time, solar and wind are. Which is typically why I say that these should be pushed more for very small projects, such as single homes, townhomes, condos, apartment complexes, commercial buildings. And, the capacity needs to be increased significantly before it’s ready.
But, hey, John says the price is dropping! Hooray! Now if we could only put solar panels and wind turbines across all the land of the world we might have power. Of course, there would be no land for living creatures, including man, to live on, and we’d have to cut down all the trees and vegetation.
You should enjoy it, GB. While much will seem like “well, duh, I already know that”, it will put everything together.
I’m gone to tell my little brother, that he should also pay a quick visit this webpage on regular basis to take updated from latest gossip.
OH GOOODY GOODY.
I’ll bring lemonade and lollipops. We’ll have a tea party.