Texas Governor Rick Perry continues his tour to swipe jobs and companies from Blue States, having recently gotten into it with Maryland Commissar, er, Governor Martin O’Malley. Now…
(SFGate) Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry, on a tour aimed at pushing “red state†tax and business policies to drive growth, said Friday that a major economic difference between California and Texas is that “we don’t judge success on the number of people we have on public assistance.â€
“California has substantially more liberal public assistance programs,’’ said Perry, considered a possible 2016 GOP presidential candidate, in a wide-ranging interview with the San Francisco Chronicle. “This is a state that’s going bankrupt. You have huge debt out here..and part of that is driven by these very expensive, very rich programs.â€
“We judge success by the number of people that have a job,’’ said Perry, who has been a vociferous critic of the Affordable Care Act.
He said working Texans are free to “go buy (health) insurance, or be in a company that delivers that health care for them. That’s the real future of America.â€
Nor did he hold back on Obama
“The President of the United States thinks the more people on public assistance, the more successful he is as a leader,†he said.
One last excerpt
“Jerry Brown is very capable, thoughtful fellow,†he said. “He just has a different outlook than I do.â€
Instead of being bombastic, abusive, and insulting, which is the way Obama and so many Democrats would do it, Perry is gracious and flattering, and simply notes a different set of ideas.
Governor Goodhair states that the President and Dem Govs judge success by the number of folks on public assistance and you say he’s NOT bombastic, insulting and abusive.
Remember: “It’s always projection.”
Business taxes are lower in California. Wages are lower in Texas. Land is cheaper in TX. CA has a state income tax, TX does not. TX’s property taxes are about 4 times greater than CA’s. CA has ten times more venture funding than TX. CA graduates a higher percentage from college each yr.
“Texas outpaces California in sectors that depend on the state’s lower labor, land and housing costs (while) California maintains competitive advantage in sectors that rely on a talented workforce and innovative entrepreneurs.†– UCLA economist Jerry Nickelsburg
California has the 8th largest economy in the world.
And California doesn’t rely on cheap labor. Who is picking all the crops in California, it isn’t some rich guy. Who provides the labor for landscaping and bussing tables, it isn’t some rich liberal. As a matter of fact California depends on cheap labor, legal or illegal to do all of the menial tasks rich liberals won’t do.
As for taxes you forgot to include state and local taxes. Gasoline taxes in California are twice as high as here in Texas. California may have the 8th largest economy but I’m sure not everyone gets to enjoy it.
Of course, I didn’t say that CA had no cheap labor. The mean pay in CA is higher than TX.
I am pleased anytime a conservative recognizes the contributions of our low wage brothers and sisters, although I suspect you do not mean it.
Jeff,
You would be wrong. Typical liberal talking point that conservatives such as myself just don’t care for the poor, bull. The mean pay is higher in California but so is the cost of living. When adjusted for cost of living the poverty rate is higher in California than it is in Texas.
While Apple and all the high tech companies do their R&D in California, they ship the production overseas because of the wage and benefit concerns. All those libs who talk about helping the poor don’t want to pay a little extra for their electronic toys.
Jeffrey, once again you show how much of a fool you are.
While you claim success is based on how large a government can get, or how much money it can take from its citizens or how much danger they can be put in, true success measured by the freedoms and income retained by individual citizens and how safe they feel under their government.
At no time in history have we as a people feared our gov’t as we do now, since the time prior to our Revolution. Yet, I claim, that nowadays, our gov’t of today is much more fearful, deadly, and controlling.
I didn’t claim that success is based on how large a government can get or how much money it can take from its citizens.
“We” do not fear the gov’t, you do. Frightened people can be dangerous, regardless whether the fear is based on fact or FOX.
What is our gov’t doing that scares you?
My mistake. As I said, I am pleased to be wrong in this case. In Alabama, since the Republican-run state rejected the Medicaid expansion, if you make more than $4500 (for a family of three) you make TOO MUCH to be eligible for Medicaid but not enough to qualify for ACA subsidies (the ACA assumed all people below 133% of poverty line would be covered by expanded Medicaid). Red state after red state rejected Medicaid expansion and maintained their limits for eligibility – LA $4700, IN $4700, TX $4900, MS $5600, VA $5800, KS $6000, MO $6800 and so on. For example, in TX, if your family makes more than $4900 in a year, you make too much to be eligible for Medicaid, but ACA subsidies only apply to families making at least about $26,000. In liberal Massachusetts the limit is $26,000, and they accepted Medicaid expansion. So, please partially excuse my concern that conservatives are waging a war on the poor.
I hate to pick nits, but could you show your evidence that the cost of living adjusted poverty rate of CA is higher than TX?
You’re a bit confused on capitalism. Capitalists strive to reduce the costs of production so that they can outcompete others. Large multinational corporations find significant savings by manufacturing overseas, where they can produce and ship products of adequate quality for less than American workers making minimum wage. US gov’t trade policies have largely supported this shift in manufacturing.
“.. American companies have difficulty competing against foreign countries that undervalue their currencies, pay health care for their workers; provide subsidies for energy, land, buildings, and equipment; grant tax holidays and rebates and provide zero-interest financing; pay their workers poverty wages that would be illegal in the United States, and don’t enforce safety or environmental regulations.” – Richard McCormack http://prospect.org/article/plight-american-manufacturing
Other than devaluing the dollar, I don’t have an answer for how we fix our trade balance.
Jeff,
The reason most Red States don’t want Medicaid expansion is because we know the federal government will stick the states with the whole bill after a few years. That’s the way it worked with the original Medicaid because the feds wanted appear as cutting spending and put the load on the states.
From hotair.com
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/06/kotkin-so-california-is-looking-kind-of-feudal-these-days-huh/
Read the whole article but here is a sample.
Now you talk about capitalism. Well Jeff thats why businesses from all over the country are moving to Texas and other states which have low taxes and less regulation along with right to work.
Have a nice day
I disagree with your reasoning on Medicaid. Red state Republicans have disdain for the poor (the takers) and are fetishists for “the makers.” You nominated a candidate who ran on this point. Most Republicans want to further reduce taxes on the rich and reduce services for the poor, squeezing the middle class in the process. It is the great ideological divide between progressives and conservatives.
I read the hotair piece but more importantly the Daily Beast article.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/05/california-s-new-feudalism-benefits-a-few-at-the-expense-of-the-multitude.html
We are all on the same page. Progessives, as well as Tea Partiers, are dismayed at the new feudalism, income inequality and the demise of the middle class. The US has become a plutocracy. Our laws and policies are designed by the wealthy for the wealthy. Our political class, whether Dem or Repub, are beholden to their rich donors.
But if you think the TX model of low wages and reduced worker protections represent a sound future for the US, than you support the feudal system. This is a system designed for the capitalist, not the worker. TX competes with China by becoming China.
The effective tax rate on businesses in CA is less than in TX. The lures in TX are low labor costs and gov’t freebies.
As oppossed to Progressives who raise minimum wage to only see unemployment go up, especially in minority neighborhoods. Keeping the poor in dependence by only helping when they’ve hit rock bottom instead of stepping in before they have sunk completely. Encouraging fathers to leave or the family will not recieve help at all.
Wrong again. Progressives only care about what is fair no matter who it hurts.
Better than what’s happening in California or did you really read the article from the Daily Beast. How is that bullet train to nowhere working out?
So businesses in CA are taxed less so they make up for it by taxing the middle class and poor to make up for it.