Let’s not forget
Climate Depot Analysis: ‘There have been at least seven separate explanations for the standstill in global warming’ – 1) Low Solar Activity; 2) Oceans Ate Warming; 3) Chinese Coal Use; 4) Montreal Protocol; 5) Readjusted past temps to claim ‘pause’ never existed 6) Volcanoes 7) Decline in Water Vapor 8) Pacific Trade Winds
Here’s a number 6
Volcanic eruptions ‘contributed to global warming pause’, scientists claim
The impact of volcanic eruptions on global warming could provide a new explanation for the so-called “pause†used by sceptics to deny climate change is happening, scientists have said.
Not exactly new. But like all good excuses (the dog ate my warming, er, homework) it will be trotted out again and again
According to a study in the US, models for predicting the rate at which temperatures around the world would rise from 1998 onwards did not take into consideration the measurable impact volcanoes can have.
Uh huh. This sounds like some excuse-making as to why 95% of the models have failed.
Experts from the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California said this phenomenon was not taken into account when predictions were made – offering an explanation for why the world seemed to stop heating up.
“We show that climate model simulations without the effects of early 21st century volcanic eruptions overestimate the tropospheric warming observed since 1998,†wrote Dr Benjamin Santer in the journal Nature Geoscience.
Strange that natural earth forces can be responsible for the pause and even cooling, but cannot be responsible for the warming that has occurred since 1850/1920/1980 (depends on the Warmist argument).
British climate expert Professor Piers Forster, from the University of Leeds, said: “Volcanoes give us only a temporary respite from the relentless warming pressure of continued increases in CO2.â€
See? This is a religion, an about as far from science as one can be. There were more than enough volcanoes popping off during the warming periods in the early 20th Century, including the higher levels in the 20’s-30’s, with a VEI of at least 4 (Volcanic Explosivity Index). What about Mount St. Helen’s in 1980, El Chichon in 1982, and Pinatubo and Mount Hudson in 1991. There were few VEI 4’s during the early part of the 21st Century, yet the climate has been virtually flatlined. Some data shows slight reductions. There were more than enough from 1850 to the end of the 19th Century, including Krakatoa, and we had lots of warming. But, what about post 1991? The later part of the 1990’s saw few volcanic eruption of a 4 or higher. The biggest was Soufriere Hills, which had a VEI of 3.
So, it’s strange that volcanoes are being blamed for the pause which started in 1998.
“Strange that natural earth forces can be responsible for the pause and even cooling, but cannot be responsible for the warming that has occurred since 1850/1920/1980 (depends on the Warmist argument).”
Natural forces CAN be responsible for the modern warm period! All we need to do is show what the natural forces (sun, volcanoes, cosmic rays, albedo etc) add to the warming. So far, scientists have not been able to find a good explanation other than the increase in greenhouse gases.
“There were few VEI 4′s during the early part of the 21st Century, yet the climate has been virtually flatlined. Some data shows slight reductions.”
The article clearly stated that since 1999 a series of 17 smaller eruptions that increased upper atmosphere reflectivity 7% had not been accounted for.
The climate has not flatlined, virtually or literally. GISS, Hadcrut, NOAA, UAH databases show an increase and RSS shows no increase.
Jeff,
Once again, what is the concentration of acids in the oceans by quantitative methods? You want to discuss science, lets do it.
J-“All we need to do is show what the natural forces add to the warming. So far, scientists have not been able to find a good explanation other than an increase in greenhouse gasses.” Totally false. All you need to do is show that the current(non) warming is NOT caused by natural forces. As you know, “natural forces” have been doing that very thing for 4 billion years. They’re still doing it now. J as usual gets mixed up on who has to do what.
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Jl,
Note that he has not mentioned “procession”. In fact, when I asked for the reason for ice ages, neither our resident troll nor his buddy mentioned the most accepted reason for dramatic climate change. Also, neither acknowledge the significant spike in temperature that proceeds the start of an ice age and that we are just about due to go into one according to past history. But, they will sure tax us to death and make sure we trade in carbon credits and take credit for any alteration that benefits their stance, no matter the reason.
Yes- for most of them history started around 1940 or so.
Once again, 10 nanomolar.
Why do you ask?
j2,
You are confused about what constitutes a scientific theory. It’s not the same as a hunch, an idea or hypothesis. The evidence in support of AGW is overwhelming, so what natural processes are causing the Earth to warm now?
What’s your most compelling piece of evidence falsifying the theory of AGW?
Since you lads don’t care about evidence, there is no evidence that will persuade you.