As you might know, Warmists have been pushing the notion that cold and snow and ice, ie, winter weather, is now caused by “climate change”, due to man-induced greenhouse gas release. That talking point, designed to protect the “climate change” cult during a 17 year pause in statistically significant warming, and after several strong winters, isn’t gaining traction with the American people. They also aren’t buying the drought argument, either
(Gallup) Two in three Americans say their local area is experiencing colder-than-usual temperatures this winter, and one in four say their area is experiencing drought. When asked why they think these extreme weather events are happening, many more say they are attributable to normal yearly variation in temperature or rainfall than to human-caused climate change or global warming.
The cult just can’t catch a break.
This was part 3 of Gallup surveys on “climate change”. The first showed that “climate change” ranks almost dead last on the list of American concerns. The second, which was published on the 13th, shows that only 36% are concerned with global warming in their lifetime. It is elevated from the beginning of the polling in 1998, but down a bit from a high of 40% in 2008. But, this doesn’t distinguish causation, ie, whether natural, anthropogenic, or a mix.
So what? You should be pleased that although you’ve lost the scientific argument about AGW, you’re winning the political argument. Opinion polls of the general public are useful political tools.
The evidence clearly shows that the Earth is warming from CO2 added to the atmosphere.
Of course, if all you know is what you see at your own home, and it’s been cold there, you may well not be aware of global warming.
If the scientific argument is settled, please tell us how to tell the difference between global warming cold and normal cold.
jl,
You’re conflating the overwhelming evidence in support of the theory of AGW with the continued and necessary research into the processes and outcomes from the rapid warming of the Earth.
Here’s an analogy. Most of us understand that the probability is quite high that we’ll wake up in the morning in bed and not bobbing against our bedroom ceiling along with the furniture, our spouse and the cat. There is overwhelming evidence supporting the theory that a mass-dependent accelerating force exists between globs of physical matter . We call this the theory of gravity. It keeps the Earth orbiting the Sun, the moon orbiting the Earth, it’s responsible for our tides, our atmosphere, why white men can’t jump, why apples fall etc. Please explain why we are still doing research on gravity. Please explain the mechanism of gravity.
Over 300 years ago Sir Isaac Newton cleverly deduced that: Fg = G(m1m2/r2) where Fg is the accelerating force, m1 and m2 are the masses of the objects and r2 is the separation between the 2 objects, squared. G is the universal gravitational constant. This unexplained accelerating force depends on the masses of objects and is inversely related to the distance apart. We’re still not sure why.
g2 will mock me for comparing the theories of gravity and AGW in 3, 2, 1…
So in other words, you and the other warmists can’t answer the question.
Would you include the US Navy as part of this cult? Or the USChamber of Commerce?
Good point, John. The Chamber of Commerce obviously must then have many climate scientists in it’s ranks. Silly me, here I thought it was composed of business people. And the boss of the US Navy is the president, who yes, is a cult member.
j1,
No more, no less than you can answer the questions on gravity.
Why do you believe your question is important?
No need to mock you. You did that yourself.
In other words, you don’t have an answer to jl’s question but want people to accept AGW.
Got it.
You’re kidding, right?
g2 or j1,
So maybe you can explain why you think that question is important or relevant. If it’s so obvious, it should be easy for you.
The evidence for global warming doesn’t rely on polar vortices, regional cold snaps, regional heat waves or blizzards. The evidence is the continued warming of the Earth’s surface and oceans and the physics of electromagnetic radiation.
How does jl’s question about cold snaps address that? Or is just another denier distraction?
Another distraction. Are you saying that you cannot answer the question on the difference between the two?
And obviously hard for you because we all know that you inability / unwillingness would show another fallacy in AGW “science.:
We agree. It relies on science – science that is lacking on the part of AGW’ers.
In a way, this compounds your hypocrisy in other areas. You always demand that others answer your questions and yet you feel that you have to approve of the reason for a question before you will consider answering it. (And then will simply walk away without answering it.)
Al Gore and you are still hypocrites in the AGW debate and your unwillingness of you, Gore and people of your ilk to change your lifestyle shows that your talk about AGW is bluster and that you don’t actually believe what you type.
Actions speak louder than words Jeffery.
“No more, no less than you can answer the question on gravity.” I ask J a question and he clumsily bats one back at me. I smell climate astrologer desperation…again. Nice try at diversion, Jeffery. If warmists say that some of these cold snaps and record snow is caused by global warming, then they should be able to differentiate between the two. But of course we see by J’s non-answer that they can’t.
j2 and g1,
Why do you believe the question about differentiating between global warming cold snaps and non global warming cold snaps is the linchpin of AGW?
Of course, it’s impossible to differentiate one specific cold snap from another. Why do you think that falsifies the theory of AGW?
The Earth is warming because of CO2 added to the atmosphere. That’s the established scientific theory you’re trying to refute. Have at it.
Who said it was?
Oh that’s right. You did.
You are the only person who makes that claim as if misrepresenting what other people say and do makes you somehow an intellectual or something other than a person who does not support truth in anything.
Question: You postulated that “most of us understand that the probability is quite high that we’ll wake up in the morning in bed and not bobbing against our bedroom ceiling along with the furniture, our spouse and the cat” as continued proof of gravity and its effects.
Right?
Oh, and in case you forgot Jeffery,….
Al Gore and you are still hypocrites in the AGW debate and your unwillingness of you, Gore and people of your ilk to change your lifestyle shows that your talk about AGW is bluster and that you don’t actually believe what you type.
Actions speak louder than words Jeffery.
You’re a buffoon. I certainly believed what I typed there.
Aw shucks, stop calling me an intellectual, pseudo- or otherwise. I’m no such thing. I’m just your typical overeducated, gun-totin’, hard-working, liberal, agnostic, entrepreneurial, schmuck and grandfather. You think an actual intellectual would waste time typing here?
You’ve never explained how your fantastical mythologies about climate realists personal habits could possibly effect the theory of AGW.
Says the guy who says that all other people do is call others names.
I am not sure what “there” means.
Care to clarify?
Or will you, like you do all the time, walk away from questions that you don’t like?
All evidence to the contrary.
You’ve never explained how your fantastical mythologies about climate realists personal habits could possibly effect the theory of AGW
I cannot believe how you, someone who claims to be intellectually superior to everyone else in the room, cannot understand what you said is only a distortion of what others are saying.
So no matter how much you keep trying to repeat the same lie over and over; no matter how much you keep trying to erect a strawman; no matter how much you continually demonstrate a lack of comprehension skills, it still won’t affect the fact you are arguing something you have constructed in your childish, immature mind.
Oh, and in case you forgot Jeffery,….
Al Gore and you are still hypocrites in the AGW debate and your unwillingness of you, Gore and people of your ilk to change your lifestyle shows that your talk about AGW is bluster and that you don’t actually believe what you type.
Actions speak louder than words Jeffery.