Or, it could be that the Cult of Climastrology is mostly/solely wrong about “climate change”
Earth wins time as land and seas absorb more carbon
Climate change has intensified more slowly than scientists had expected because the continents and oceans are absorbing more atmospheric carbon dioxide.Half of all the carbon emissions from burning fossil fuels remain in the atmosphere. The good news is that only half remain in the atmosphere, while the rest have been taken up by the living world and then absorbed into the land, and the ocean. That is, as carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere have risen, so also has the planet’s capacity to soak up atmospheric carbon.
The implication is that what engineers call “positive feedback†– in which global warming triggers the release of yet more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere to accelerate yet further warming – doesn’t seem to be at work yet.
OK. So, what does this all mean?
The implication, too, is that the world’s governments still have time to launch determined programmes to sharply reduce fossil fuel use, and switch to wind, solar and other renewable energy sources before climate change disrupts the planet’s food security and exacts what could be a devastating toll on the biosphere.
Surprise! More Big Government!
Of course, it’s not surprising that plant life is taking up more CO2. They love that stuff like kids love cookies. But, really, this is simply Excusifying in a manner set up to say DOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!! in the future while calling for more Government.
The one thing I am starting to see among the more rational AGW crowd is that they are starting to realize that there is more to global warming then just measurable amounts of CO2 in the air.
Many are starting to realize they have become tools, stooges and pawns for a progressive movement with a political agenda and as such they are slowly beginning to question the stock mantra albeit it quite cautiously.
I see this in articles appearing more and more frequently that says we dont understand, we dont have all the facts, we dont understand the interconnection, we dont have accurate modeling, we dont, we dont, we dont.
In the near future we will see the AGW position collapse as they transition to a new position to end capitalism.
It was global cooling, Acid Rain, Methane in the water supply, Global Warming and Now Climate Change. Who knows what they will transition to next.
What people like Jeffery doesnt understand is that the USA is broke. We cant afford to transition to alternatives…..What are you going to tax?
Amperes? Estimate wind speed? Solar radiation?
At some point, the “it’s settled science” crowd is going to have to answer the question: how is it settled science when none of the predictions for what is going to happen have shown any signs of actually coming true?
Normally, an hypothesis is postulated, and then an experiment designed to test the hypothesis; if the test fails to yield the results which would prove the hypothesis, the hypothesis is not considered to be correct.
With the warmists, every failed prediction means not that the hypothesis is incorrect, but simply that they just haven’t gotten the tests right, simply have to account better for the variables.
Real science admits the possibility that an hypothesis can be wrong; the problem is that real politics never concedes that.
Well, duh. Of course there are many inputs to the global temperature, not just CO2 – there’s nary a climate scientist to deny that. The Sun’s energy output (we’re in a dim Sun period right now). Ocean currents that move warmth around (like the PDO, El Nino and his sister). The albedo.
You forgot the hole in the ozone, which we fixed. There was never serious concern about cooling. Acid rain, we fixed. I hope we have little or no methane in the water supply! The Earth is warming. It is not now “Climate Change”, it always was! The IPCC was formed in 1988. What does the CC stand for? Climate Change! The official title was Climate Change from the beginning!
CO2 increasing from burning fossil fuels. True
Earth’s surface warming. True.
Oceans are warming. True.
Ice sheets melting. True.
Sea level rising. True.
Ocean pH dropping. True.
Deniers would accept that Earth is warming. True.
Deniers would accept that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. True.
Deniers would claim that reducing CO2 emissions would do more harm than good. True.
Since you brought it up, please list the major experiments falsifying the theory of human-caused global warming.
I now predict Deniers will say they’ve debunked AGW many times and no one listens.
So it’s not about science with you, it’s all about politics? Anyway, the US is not “broke”. We pay all our bills, don’t we. We may not have the political courage to invest in the future, but we’re not in financial trouble. Having debt (especially at super low rates) is not being “broke”. If you have a $500,000 mortgage, but only make $250,000 a year, are you broke?
“CO2 increasing..True.” No one said anything otherwise. “Earth surface warming.” Not true, but if so means nothing, as it has warmed before. “Oceans are warming-true.” We have very scant ocean temp data- some monitors cover areas as large as lake Superior. Oceans have warmed in the past, so this also means nothing. It can’t be tied to human influence. “Ice sheets melting-true.” Some are, some are growing. Again, this would only be relevant if it never happened in the past, but alas, it has. It can’t be tied to human influence. “Sea levels rising-true.” They’ve been rising for the last 20,000 years or so, as so happens in an inter=glacial period. Several studies show they aren’t rising. Again- has happened many time before so can’t be tied to human influence. “Ocean pH dropping-true.” Nothing new and can’t be tied to human influence. “List experiments falsifying human caused global warming.” First, it must be shown that humans are causing global warming.
Despite Jeffery’s attempt at discrediting a simple post……I reaffirm my position.
The AGW crowd is moderating as they are starting to understand they do not have all the answers like Jeffery does.
As for being broke……my friend….who builds windmills? Solar Panels? Tidal Harnesses, Nuke plants?
The answer for the most part is Private enterprise. And none of them want to do it because of government interference and no guarantee they will make money.
Obama promised the insurance agencies they would have a financial boon if they just signed on to Obamacare…which they did…..now every agency is having to raise rates thru the roof and begging for subsidies just to break even.
No one wants to trust the government because this year when the Dems are in charge all is well, but then put the gop in charge and all those subsidies might just dry up……..
No ones going to invest in alternatives. The government fights every 3 months just to pass a continuing resolution to play the next 3-6 months bills…..NO COMPANY in their right mind is going to invest billions on the HOPE that the government is going to subsidize them for a long long time.
Ergo……we are broke……paying your bills is one thing……eating out, partying, buying a new car, taking a vaccation when you just barely paid your bills this month is quite a different thing.
Jeffrey is not very bright. He couldn’t even understand this text.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology/trends
“With increased National Doppler radar coverage, increasing population, and greater attention to tornado reporting, there has been an increase in the number of tornado reports over the past several decades. This can create a misleading appearance of an increasing trend in tornado frequency. To better understand the variability and trend in tornado frequency in the United States, the total number of EF-1 and stronger, as well as strong to violent tornadoes (EF-3 to EF-5 category on the Enhanced Fujita scale) can be analyzed. These tornadoes would have likely been reported even during the decades before Doppler radar use became widespread and practices resulted in increasing tornado reports. The bar charts below indicate there has been little trend in the frequency of the stronger tornadoes over the past 55 years.”
When I pointed out that if you look at the tornadoes that were strong enough to have been reported in decades when doppler radar didn’t exist (establishing that there has been “little trend”) do you know what he did?
Provided the raw tornado counts! Thinking he had really told me. Thinking he had proved global warming was causing more tornadoes. When all he had proved is …doppler radar.
As NOAA points out, if you just go with the raw counts the easily misled will fall for misleading appearances.
That’s our Jeffrey.
The original exchange is here.
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2015/05/12/the-winners-of-todays-climate-change-causes-earthquakes-sweepstake-are/