North Carolina already has a driver’s license for illegals given executive amnesty by Barack Obama. Other than driving, registering a vehicle, and purchasing vehicular insurance, they provide no lawful status. In order to register a vehicle, one must have a valid DL and valid insurance. In order to obtain a DL, one must have valid insurance. This applies regardless of immigration status. Now the NC House looks to offer this to all illegal aliens
(WRAL) When a bill that would allow immigrants in the United States illegally to obtain limited driving privileges cleared the House Finance Committee Tuesday morning, Gregorio Morales and Carmen Rodriguez were among the folks sitting in the back of the room smiling.
Morales, who is originally from Mexico, has lived in the United States for 17 years – seven of those in North Carolina – and would be one of the people lining up for the new identity cards if House Bill 328 becomes law.
“I am a small-business owner. I have a landscape company,” Morales said shortly after the vote. He and his five employees would all benefit from the bill, he said.
“When you’re driving without a license, you always feel fear,” he said.
That’s right, at least two illegals were present, and they….weren’t detained. Despite admitting that not only were they present in the US illegally, but had been breaking other laws.
House Bill 328 would create a “restricted ID” for undocumented residents in North Carolina that would look different from a standard driver’s license. People obtaining one of the permits would need to undergo fingerprinting and background checks and prove their identity. Driving privileges would be attached to the restricted ID once applicants pass a state driving test and obtain liability insurance coverage.
While the bill cleared committee on a 22-11 vote, the measure is controversial, splitting Republicans in the House who are divided between encouraging people who are on the road anyway to get insurance and those who say the state should not provide public benefits to undocumented workers.
“What we want to do in this undocumented community is to separate those who are engaged in criminal activity from those who otherwise are not engaged in unlawful activity,” said sponsor Rep. Harry Warren, R-Rowan.
What’s the point of electing Republicans when they just act like Democrats? Some Republicans were dead set against this bill, including Governor McCrory.
Rep. Paul “Skip” Stam, R-Wake, pointed out that, in the case of an accident involving a driver without insurance, the other driver’s insurance bears the cost of damage and medical bills. Part of the insurance premiums drivers pay every month go toward covering such accidents.
It is a good point, and, if we look at this pragmatically, there are, unfortunately, too many who put roadblocks in the way of detaining and deporting the illegals, as well as stopping them in the first place.
As to the details of the bill, on page 11 line 23 we learn
The Division shall work with other State and local agencies on an ongoing basis to ensure that restricted drivers permits are not used to obtain public benefits for which only citizens and lawfully present persons are eligible
So, at least there is a provision blocking illegals from obtaining any benefits with the DLs. Whether this would be obeyed is another matter.
There is a long list of requirements and approved documents in order to obtain one of these special DLs, which would be marked as special. Passports are allowed, but no other document from an embassy (this is aimed directly at the Mexican consulate) would be allowed.
Possession of one of these special DLs cannot be used as basis to investigate nor detain the card holder.
They are only good for a period of one year, so, yearly renewal, which would certainly mean a yearly background check. And there is a long list of offenses which bar an illegal (and one would hope that this would mean immediate detention). However, things like “disturbing the public peace, misdemeanor possession of marijuana, worthless checks, misdemeanor larceny, shoplifting, or public drunkenness” do not disqualify.
Of course, this is all predicated on the bill actually making it on to the House floor for a vote, being passed in the Republican controlled House, then passing in the Republican controlled Senate, then avoiding a veto by the Governor.
Crossed at Right Wing News.
Our esteemed host wrote:
Is this true? Most people get their driver’s licenses when they are 16, before they ever own a vehicle; since when has getting a driver’s license been contingent upon owning a vehicle, and therefore having to have insurance on it?
If an illegal immigrant has a restricted driver’s license, and he is involved in an accident, one that wasn’t physically his fault, couldn’t the other party, who was at fault, still sue because if the illegal immigrant hadn’t been in the area in the first place, there would have been no accident? Isn’t every traffic accident involving an illegal alien the illegal’s fault?
Teach you seem to have forgotten that we are a country of laws
Between detain and deport you seem to have forgotten “due process” by an immigration judge
Teach morales has been in the USA for 17 years probably has a family with children that have American citizenship
Would you really rather put those kids into 25000$ a year foster care and have them not have a dad ? Or on welfare ?
I think that would be cruel
Teach you seem to have forgotten that we are a country of laws
Between detain and deport you seem to have forgotten “due process” by an immigration judge
Teach morales has been in the USA for 17 years probably has a family with children that have American citizenship
Would you really rather put those kids into 25000$ a year foster care and have them not have a dad ? Or on welfare ?
I think that would be cruel
Due process should consist solely of determining whether the suspected illegal immigrant is here legally or otherwise; if not — something which can be quickly determined — he should be shipped back home, and any further due process be through legal application at the American embassy or consulate. The idea that we keep those people who are here illegally here, so that they can go through the hugely backlogged immigration courts, is ridiculous.
Would you really rather put those kids into 25000$ a year foster care and have them not have a dad ? Or on welfare ?
I think that would be cruel
So on one hand you say we are a nation of laws and on the other hand you want people to benefit from breaking those laws.
Can’t argue with that logic, because once again there is no logic to argue with.
John wrote:
Individually, yes, but on a larger scale, it would discourage having so many illegals coming here and having “anchor babies,” if they knew those babies weren’t actually anchors.
Of course, my real policy would be that when we find an illegal immigrant who’s actually working for a living, we keep him, and deport a lazy scumbag American citizen who won’t work in his place.
You know the old Republicanism is in trouble when even NC Republicans can’t stand up to the illegals.
It’s time for all you far-rightists to take your country back!
Or leave. Or change your ways.
“Not even NC Republicans can stand up to illegals.” That’s right- they seem to pussies like liberals are in this matter.
Or, those who are here illegally could sent packing, and we could institute policies that do not incent them to come here illegally/overstay their visas.
Which was kind of my point. Your Republicans are not carrying out the wishes of the far right, so whom can you elect now?
I did leave out the option of an armed rebellion by the far-right – the ultimate conservative wet dream.