Remember, we aren’t allowed to Shame people because of their body, their sexuality, or anything else. Unless you refuse to accept the political belief in anthropogenic global warming/climate change
Does shame have a place in the climate fight? Jennifer Jacquet thinks so
Jennifer Jacquet thinks we all need more shame in our lives.
At least, that‘s the premise of her pointedly titled book Is Shame Necessary?: New Uses for an Old Tool, in which she describes the troubling lack of chagrin demonstrated by the corporations and governments who have been busily trashing the environment for decades, nay, centuries. Meanwhile, the more sensitive among us (i.e. anyone who has ever Asked Umbra) are wracked with guilt about what untold horrors our lint rollers and beach reads and unweeded gardens might wreak on the climate.
To roughly paraphrase Jacquet: Chill, y’all! No one is going to make or break the planet on one anxiety-ridden trip to Whole Foods, so stop acting like it. Your time would be much better spent wagging a finger at the 90 companies responsible for the bulk of historical emissions.
Gotta love it. Warmists who refuse to give up their own use of fossil fuels and big carbon footprints shouldn’t be shamed, only those Big Big Companies should! Of course, it’s not one trip. It’s trip after trip after trip. It’s constant use of things that supposedly contribute to AGW. Often made by Big Big Corporations.
Although corporations are now officially people, my friends, I’m not convinced they have the same personal feelings as a shamed chubby person or women or gay men or working class Americans.
So while decent Americans have some degree of sympathy for a shamed individual, especially when shamed by the likes of Rush Limpballs or Sean Hatefully, not so much for multinational corporations violating the public trust. The opposite of decent Americans, i.e., conservative-Americans, have the opposite response. They usually blame it on a bastardized version of their “religion”.
Companies are seeing that it is their best long term interests to combat AGW. NO, not the Koch industries but most other.
The USA is making some progress our carbon emissions are equal to 2007 they have not increased although our population has.
Stockholders in those companies are now also waking up to the fact that carbon pollution can be a long term profit risk and are asking these companies what can be done to reduce that risk
What’s not so funny is the linked article within the article.
Suing the big oil companies out of existence like they have tried to do with Tobacco.
The end result will be the passing along of humongous energy prices to the consumer making food and everything else so expensive as to be nearly impossible to buy.
this could very easily be the end of Capitalism in the world….not just the USA…and what these nitwits fail to comprehend is that after they have accomplished this end to fossil fuels or the making of them so very expensive due to massive law suits that nearly every nation on earth will collapse and their aint enough communists to fill the vaccuum as wars break out all over the world over scarce and no longer available goods, services and most importantly food and water.
Go for it…. 7 billion locusts swarming out into the country side devouring everything in their paths until nothing is left…….
EXCELLENT IDEA the INSANE AGW radicals have their….EXCELLENT IDEA.
The drug pushers (aka Tobacco companies) paid very little for the damage they did and continue to do. I’m pretty sure the executives made out OK, keeping their millions and not a one hanged, that I’m aware of.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans died, and others continue to die, prematurely from tobacco use. Scientists at the CDC (that mentions two things conservatives hate – scientists and government) estimate that over 400,000 Americans die each year from tobacco related diseases (that’s about 20% of total deaths). Negroes kill about 7 or 8 thousand a year. ISIS kills 0-10 a year. How many tobacco executives have been convicted for homicide? How many had their fortunes confiscated?
If a thug sold some coke to your child and your child died would you blame your kid and excuse the thug, allowing him to take his profit?
Someone will have to pay for the damages from our reliance on fossil fuels. Shouldn’t energy companies pay even a little bit? In addition, a gradual increase in fossil fuel based energy would make renewables more competitive. Fossil fuels are not evil, but Denying that they impact our environment is.
Global warming is negative externality of our use of fossil fuels – a real cost not figured into the pricing.
The economic gloom and doom crowd, crying the “sky is falling” whenever there’s a suggestion that we consider the facts are doing no one a favor (except their patrons, the fossil fuel industry). It’s a lie to say that a carbon tax or carbon cap and trade will destroy the economy. It’s a cover by the lying liars to slow progress.
Well Jeffery you show once again your communist stripes in the above post.
If a thug sold some coke to your child and your child died would you blame your kid and excuse the thug, allowing him to take his profit?
Not relevant. Not on topic and a poor attempt at baiting an argument that has nothing to do with Suing Fossil fuels out of existence.
Tobacco vs OIL/natural gas.
Lets see…..make cigarettes really, really expensive and the world economy collapses….?? Really?
vs.
Making Oil/natural Gas really really expensive as in…..lets do the math here….cigarettes went from 1.49 a pack to in some places over 10 dollars a pack.
So Gasoline….2.60×6 or 15 dollars per gallon.
My electric bill….340.00x 6 to 1800 per month…..
My Food…….Hamburger……4.oo/lb to 24.00 per pound.
My Bread…..3.00/loaf to 18 dollars per loaf…..
Cause their just aint nothing to replace fossil fuels and what fuel their is is mindlessly expensive to both run in tractors, combines, trains, Semi-trailers getting them to markets.
And once again Jeffery you show that the AGW is not about saving the planet when you post this crap:
There is a humongous difference between depriving the world of cigarettes and fossil fuels.
We both know you know that…..we both also know that you dont give a flying ff about the people….you want capitalism destroyed and you believe that communism will be a far superior form of government.
You ridicule anyone who paints your nirvana with reality…..sorry to piss on your cavass but suing fossil fuels into extinction will actually sue the worlds culutres into world anarchy.
But of course you know that too…..You and your buddies at the Communist party of the USA headquarters believe you’ve positioned yourselves to cash in on the collapse.
It was YOU that brought up tobacco companies.
But at least you’ve put some numbers around your lies. No one’s suggesting that gasoline go up to $15/gal.
Speaking of shame;
Which would be easier to locate?
A: Hillary’s lost emails
B: One person saved by the Clinton Fountation’s life saving work
From the Communist party of the USA website:
Jeffery if you bark like a Commie, talk like a commie, post like a commie, use party line material in your discussions…..well you cant run and hide from the truth.
The above looks like pretty much every post you ever make here. I hate/loate/despise communism…..it has failed everywhere its been tried….its responsible for at least 100 million deaths of people who do not agree with them………much as you keep talking about the executives of the cigarette companies should have been hanged…..too bad the gulags arent up and running yet in your world.
Your a communist Jeffery….and it has been my mission for a long time to expose Communism in this country and the basic evil it presents whenever and wherever I can.
The more you post…the more the communism oozzes from your brain.
Another just blatant lie from your part…..did you even read any of my post….
Oh thats right you only read 3 lines then spew communist manifesto as a reply.
IF oil companies are shamed and sued not in the USA but around the world….by necessity the price of said Oil and natural gas will go skywards….its how stuff works.
Why? Because Oil companies will be forced to spend billions to defend themselves and then they will be forced to pay billions more to settle lawsuits that we all know these radical countries would love to inflict upon them.
These companies do not pay these fines….customers do…..Of course you know this but again your only reaction to anything I write ………
Is to shame, ridicule and deflect because you know you have no answers for the truth.
Liam,
It’s YOU’RE a Communist, not YOUR a Communist. I thought it was a typo but after 100 times…
I’m glad you have a hobby – rooting out communists.
You copy and pasted:
I DO agree with that. Which part do you find objectionable? Working class Americans? Gender, creed or sexual orientation? Sustainable environment?
Says the guy who pays people minimum wage and has “boasted” how he became rich while, under his own definitions, exploited the capitalistic system.
Typical of leftists, Jeffery is okay with what he condemns when he does it.
With Jeffery, it is always lies and projection.
LOL now you have resorted to the language police as you fumble to try and hide your communist ties……how pathetic of you.
I disagree with the entire statement when the entire statement is simply a ruse to the real end.
That real end is the destruction of Capitalism and along its path they use and abuse any group willing to expend energy to this end.
They do not care about gays, lesbians, women, children, the working class, blacks, whites or Mexicans. They simply use them to gain their end. Their end being the destruction of capitalism and the institution of that FASCISM that you loathe….the government controlling what is produced and made and what wages are paid.
When Communism flourishes productivity drops dramatically. Its the productivity of capitalism that makes the system so successful. Even people like you can exploit the system and become wealthy. Its people like you that have a bottom line you MUST adhere to or you will go broke.
Microsoft and google pay their people awesome wages and they give them awesome benefits and everyone wants to work for them. Yet to do so you must be the best of the best which rules out 99.9 percent of the world……..why? Because it falls back to a capitalistic model….Success breeds success and only the best and brightest are chosen when they can have their pick of whom they hire.
I earn a great salary because I am productive, responsible and consistently perform at a high standard. If I didnt there are plenty of qualified applicants who could take my job from me….Thats so unfair in a comies world…..
Yet in a commies world where everything is made fair….you know like their are no winners and losers only that you tried….then you fill up the production line with people with no incentive to do excellent work because why should you? Your still going to make what bubba makes over there who drags his neandrathal frame to work everyday and takes up space……why should you excell if it gets you nothing but the same paycheck bubba gets?
but of course you know all this…….but its the misdirect, bait and switch and collusion of the commie party that confuses the people and makes them long for a system in which they make the same thing as Donald Trump for doing nothing…….
Its the promise of more when there ends up being no one to pay for it that communism implodes in on itself…….
So yeah I disagree with the entire statement because its premised on a HUGE LIE…….a lie that will be the end of America and the start of a poverty stricken collapse……..but the Commie party of the USA is convinced they have positioned themselves to be the new bosses and the new corrupt party chiefs that live on the big hill and exploit the workers…..just in a differnt way.
The old task masters are gone…….replaced with new ones……Yeah not a word in that paragraph do I agree with.
Not One!
http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/
How many members of congress are active communists.
http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/caucus-members/
Remember the Communist party of the USA claims:1. they work actively within the progressive movement in the USA. 2. The Support the democratic party. 3. They support Barak Obama.
The Progressive no longer even hide the fact that they are communists. The fact that we no longer teach the evils of communism in our schools make communism a very appealing form of government when our children are no longer taught that Communist murder political rivals….have been responsible for the estimate deaths of 100 million people and that every communist system has imploded because of horrible mismanagement and the simply fact of economics 101…..supply and demand……
So yeah….Communism is thriving in the USA because we are not teaching the evils of this horrid system which will trash the constitution and make life a living hell for everyone as corporation after corporation is nationalized and political operatives that oppose said system routinely disappear.
The Democratic party is COMMUNIST. They rely on the ignorance of the voter. The stupidity of the voter….and their chief warriors are teachers and professors who brainwash our children into believing America is evil and communism is great…….
Just like Yuri said it would happen. Well its happening today and we have only ourselves to blame for it…..its time that the Right demand and begin to deploy Private charter schools and get our children out of Public schools and into private schools and private colleges..
the Push Back must begin today for I fear it is already too late to stop this road to Perdition.
Our guilt-ridden capitalist wrote:
The part I find objectionable is the “Communist Party” part. Oh, the Communists have always been great, great! in saying the right things, but when they have actually gotten into power we found out that the working class got to be poor (only the nomenklatura were well off), and freedom was squashed. The USSR told us how many female physicians they had, but neglected to mention that doctors in the USSR were just another working class status, and they were paid little. Creed? If you didn’t toe the party line, ’twas off to Lubyanka, and then the GULag for you!
The American left have almost always been suckers for what the Communists said, from Jack Reed to Walter Duranty’s “reporting” from the USSR, to American support for the Sandinistas in Nicaragua; it was only for a brief period (the fifties and early sixties) that the Democrats realized what monsters Communist rulers actually were.
“The oppression and exploitation of the capitalist system?” What really bugs the left is the fact that capitalism really is a hard system; many people win under capitalism, but there are a lot of losers as well, people who are less able — or less willing — to compete, people who just aren’t as good or as productive as others. Trouble is, capitalism is the only economic system we’ve ever known which elevated more than a small minority of the people living under it above the subsistence level.
And so we’ve had the impulse to socialism and Communism, and their promises of equality of outcome for everybody. It all sounds so great, except for the very simple fact that they don’t work.
One of the very basic points of economics is that, in the aggregate, everybody works for his own economic advantage. It doesn’t always work out that way, individually, due to bad decision-taking and incomplete or inaccurate information, but, over society and over time, that’s what happens, and a socialist/ Communist system cannot tolerate that very basic part of human nature.