Doooooom!
Earth’s Most Famous Climate Scientist Issues Bombshell Sea Level Warning
Could the oceans really rise 10 feet in the next 50 years?In what may prove to be a turning point for political action on climate change, a breathtaking new study casts extreme doubt about the near-term stability of global sea levels.
The study—written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields—concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet in as little as 50 years. The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, brings new importance to a feedback loop in the ocean near Antarctica that results in cooler freshwater from melting glaciers forcing warmer, saltier water underneath the ice sheets, speeding up the melting rate. Hansen, who is known for being alarmist and also right, acknowledges that his study implies change far beyond previous consensus estimates. In a conference call with reporters, he said he hoped the new findings would be “substantially more persuasive than anything previously published.” I certainly find them to be.
Two points. First, this is all about scaring politicians and those who really don’t pay attention beyond the superficial to Do Something. Second, if this came to pass, it would in no way prove anthropogenic causation. Because it has happened before.
Actually, there’s a third. This is beyond nutty. Even during much warmer Holocene warm periods the sea rise was less. All we saw during the 20th Century was 7 inches. To think that there will be well over twenty times this amount in the next 50 years is bat-guano insane. And plain scare-mongering.
And only a portion of Antarctica is actually melting, and Science says that it is primarily from underneath the ice, from the Earth’s natural heat, mainly volcanic activity.
In the meantime, a climate change research mission has been put on hold because of too much ice in the Hudson Bay.
You know, the Hudson Bay, in Canada, in the northern hemisphere, in the middle of summer.
Yes Dana there is an unusually large amount of ice in Hudson Bay. Interesting little factoid there Dana Could you further comment on its significance/insignificance?
Dana do you think that this is an anomaly happening during the warmest first 6 months ever recorded?
Climate truthers often do that, in an attempt to discredit the fact that the planet is getting hotter. and look at this OMG !!
There was a record minimum high day in Kotzebue AK only 61F
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
The total arctic ice is still way below normal Dana Hudson Bay is an anomaly
There seem to be a whole lot of anomalies these days!
Arctic sea ice extent for June 2015 was the third lowest in the satellite record. June snow cover for the Northern Hemisphere was the second lowest on record. In contrast, Antarctic sea ice extent remained higher than average. The pace of sea ice loss was near average for the month of June, but persistently warm conditions and increased melting late in the month may have set the stage for rapid ice loss in the coming weeks.
This was the first paragraph from that link from the national snow and ice data center
“Hansen, who is known for being alarmist and also right,”
Do tell. I am not aware of a single global warming prediction that Hansen has made over the last 35 years that has been right. How is it that there is anybody left that still listens to this fraud? Imagine if your stockbroker was wrong on every futures contract he recommended for three years. You would fire him after the first year of watching your hard-earned money disappear. The only way that this stockbroker would be able to get clients would be to lie about his record. Which makes one wonder how Hansen got work. Well, I suppose he could do what Hansen did when he was proved wrong by the passing of time and adjust downwards the past prices of the futures market so that it looked like he was right.
Yes Dana of course there are many anomalies. The more data you have the more anomalies you will also have
BUT
that is why you must not LOOK for anomalies and fixate on them. Try and look at the BIG PICTURE
Arctic sea ice is the 3rd lowest in 40 years.
And stop using Twitchy as a citation!! they mislead you
Apparently Hansen makes these predictions every 10 years or so.
I’m going to take a screen shot if that one and throw it back in your face every time you use some little event.
Oh, and the big picture still doesn’t prove anthropogenic causation
Arctic sea ice is the 3rd lowest in 40 years.
And this is relevant to what?
Shouldn’t the Arctic, by now, be ice free according to warmists’ predictions?
Like I said….what happens when fantastic amounts of fresh water slide into the ocean at a super fast pace.
I’ve been talking about this since I first arrived here.
Its called a Heinrich Event.
The events are designated H-1 to H-6 counting back in time, and they have approximate ages
of 14,500, 21,000, 27,000, 40,000, 54,000, and 65,000 years before present.
I’m not even gonna bother to discuss this again. The one thing to remember is that abrupt warming causing mass fresh water to enter the oceans does not continue to happen for eons…instead Proven is that the last great glaciation period the north atlantic warm currents shut down in as little as 1-2 decades causeing the planet to slide back into a full scale ice age.
If Hansen is correct…he is predicting the next ice age not catastropic global warming.
“Hansen who is known for being right.” Climate fraud Hansen also said in 1988 that by 2008 the Westside Highway in Manhatten would be under water. “Arctic sea ice is 3rd lowest in 40 years.” Assertions like this are always amusing. So, what has or hasn’t happened in 40 years somehow trumps what happened in the last 4 billion years? Most of which we don’t know about?
>>that is why you must not LOOK for anomalies and fixate on them. Try and look at the BIG PICTURE
>I’m going to take a screen shot if that one and throw it back in your face every time you use some little event.
You clearly do not understand how science works.
If there is an event that fits the global warming narrative — like an unusually warm summer, in some isolated place, anywhere in the world — that is proof of global warming.
If there is an event that does not fit the global warming narrative — like an unusually cool summer across most of a continent — that is an anomaly that proves nothing.
(a) I’d be interested in seeing a list of all these predictions Hansen has made that have proven right. Would that be his 1988 prediction that in the next ten years global temperatures would rise by 0.45C? Oh, that didn’t happen. His 1986 prediction that world temperatures would rise 2 degrees by 2006? Oops. His 1988 prediction that by 2008 the West Side Highway in New York would be under water and crime would be soaring because heat makes people crazy? Okay, maybe those are cherry-picked examples. So what predictions has he made that have come true?
(b) If water levels will rise 10 feet in 50 years, that averages to 2.4 inches per year. So let’s check back in a year and see if we’re on track.
(c) This sounds like the classic tactics of scare-mongerers: Make the prediction really dire, and then say that the danger is so great that we just can’t wait for proof before acting, by the time the proof comes in, it will be too late. So for example, if someone tells you that aliens are taking over the world with mind control rays and the only way to protect yourself is to wear a tin foil hat, logically, you should do it, right? Because the cost of a tin foil hat is trivial, and the potential danger is so great. But curiously, I’ve seen pictures of Mr Hansen and he does not wear a tin foil hat. Could it be that he considers the probability that this warning is true so low that he does not bother to take even such trivial efforts to protect against it?