North Carolina To Fight Obama’s Silly Climate Change Plan

And this is one the big reasons why we elect Republicans

(News and Observer) But resistance to the plan is hardening in Raleigh. The Department of Environment and Natural Resources says the EPA misinterpreted the federal Clean Air Act. The state will file a legal challenge.

“Not only will these new federal rules raise electricity rates,” Gov. Pat McCrory said in a statement, “they have the potential to jeopardize the success we’ve made in making North Carolina’s air the cleanest it’s been since we began tracking air quality back in the 1970s.”

McCrory said the state is already on track to cut carbon emissions 30 percent by 2030 without federal intrusion.

States are supposed to file compliance plans by September 2016, although they can get two-year extensions. A federal plan will serve as a backstop for states that don’t craft their own plans.

The North Carolina Senate will take up a measure Tuesday that prohibits the state from filing a compliance plan until legal challenges are resolved.

Expect more states to file suit as well as refuse to participate in this silly plan. And, it is very silly, as Jo Nova points out

This “ambitious” goal is purely symbolic. Here’s why. Electrical power plants make 37% of US emissions, which are about one-fifth of global human emissions, which are 4% of total CO2 emissions globally. So a 32% cut in US electrical emissions will result in a 0.1% cut in total global CO2 emissions (at best)*. If the Obama/EPA plan is “successful” and if the IPCC are right, Paul Knappenberger and Pat Michaels estimate that  Obama’s new plan will cool the world by an unmeasurable 0.02°C by 2100. (snip)

NERA Economic consulting estimates US electricity prices will rise 12 -17%. The Heritage Foundation estimates that rising energy costs will have an economy wide effect and the  US will lose $2.5 trillion  in GDP.  Choosing expensive electricity as a form of global climate control will cost more than one million jobs.[2]

She goes on to note all the coming legal battles.

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14 Responses to “North Carolina To Fight Obama’s Silly Climate Change Plan”

  1. Liam Thomas says:

    They are not even including in this the cost this will put on natural gas and heating oil and of course the attempt at destroying coal of which there are several hundred coal fired plants in this country.

    Only a lefty could believe forcing more expenses on a business would actually cut costs.

  2. Gail Combs says:

    Meanwhile the crippling of the USA will be Just-In-Time for the next little (or big) ice age. Aren’t you just wild with joy?

    The Little Ice Age was in the ball park timing wise for the start of the next glaciation. What we do know is that the past 6 interglacials have lasted roughly half of a precession cycle, or 11,500 years. The Holocene is now 11,717 years old…..

    In A History of Solar Activity over Millennia Ilya G. Usoskin states the sun is just leaving a Grand Solar Maximum.

    Lisiecki and Raymo (“A Pliocene-Pleistocene stack of 57 globally distributed benthic D18O records”) ruled out a double-precession cycle similar to MIS 11. With the PC cravat ‘without Human influence’

    A 2012 study using lake sediments (A new approach for reconstructing glacier variability based on lake sediments recording input from more than one glacier) has found that Norway is experiencing the Greatest Glacial activity, that is (growth) during the Holocene in the past 1,000 years.

    … most glaciers in the catchment had melted away, whereas the highest glacier activity is observed around 600 and 200 cal yr BP. [Before Present] During the local Neoglacial interval…

    Now what was that about glaciers melting?

  3. Dana says:

    Our host quoted:

    States are supposed to file compliance plans by September 2016, although they can get two-year extensions. A federal plan will serve as a backstop for states that don’t craft their own plans.

    Assuming that the extension is automatic, the states run by intelligent people can push the extension until after this scheißekopf is out of office.

    That means that only the states run by Democrats will see their sparktricity rates “necessarily skyrocket,” and eventually the voters will figure out why their electric bills are so high.

  4. john says:

    According to the Arabs 80% of the electrical grid on Earth will be competiitive for solar
    In the last 10 YEARS the cost of electricity in the USA has gone up 20% or 2% per year
    Is this the SKYROCKETING increase ?http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_03

  5. Liam Thomas says:

    What John is failing to even remotely comprehend as he posits pure numbers rather then real world scenarios is the following.

    1. Entirely new Infrastructures will have to be built to accomodate Wind and solar….The cost is added to the electric bill.

    2. Wind and Solar is not economical for the individual resident to purchase and in most cases coding would not allow them to be used even if the customer could afford them.

    3. As the USA destroys coal the burden shifts to Oil and Gas to provide Electricity. 40 percent of our electricity is generated via CHEAP coal…..

    4. Part of your electric bill is your heating bill….Almost all heat is accomplished via natural gas and heating oil……..As Natural gas has to take over the burden of Coal the price of your electric bill and your GAS bill will necessarily spike.

    5. Now the wealthy and upper class and upper middle class can afford a jump in electricity prices while the poor and the middle class cannot.

    6. What john and his fellow progressives continue to presuppose is that the government TIT will provide for the poor on the backs of those of us who pay taxes….thus covering any increase in electricity leaving the middle class who does not qualify for LEAP to bare the burden of rising electricity costs over the next 10-15 years while the transition is made to alternatives.

    Once again….the bottomless pit that is the US government which just prints money it does not have to pay for stuff it cannot afford…..is called upon to bare the burden of the progressive want list………it was this mentality that bankrupted the Former USSR and Is bankrupting several european nations as we speak….Ireland, Greece, Spain, Portugal….etc…etc…etc.

  6. john says:

    Gail yes that paper by Usoskin does say that we are just leaving a solar maximum BUT he gives that date as 1960. So for the last 50+ years the Sun has been getting weaker BUT temps have been going UP not down. As supplier of almost all the energy in Earth’s climate, the sun has a strong influence on climate. A comparison of sun and climate over the past 1150 years found temperatures closely match solar activity (Usoskin 2005). However, after 1975, temperatures rose while solar activity showed little to no long-term trend. This led the study to conclude, (this is the direct quote from the paper YOU cited Gail) “…during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar UV irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.”
    This is a common trick that your Lord Monkeyton does he cites a paper and than uses it in direct opposition to what the paper says.
    Now about those glaciers “not melting”
    Glaciers grow and shrink for many reasons besides temps. Yes the Glaciers in southern Norway are getting larger but that is due to increased pecipitation. HOWEVER 90% of the Earth’s glaciers are shrinking, and quite fast.
    https://www.skepticalscience.com/himalayan-glaciers-growing.htm
    Cogley et al 2009 shows it quite clearly in his graph.
    Again Gail this is a common tactic of Monkeyton. Cherry picking facts,it is rather easy for him to do during a presentation where no one can check his sources and then confront him. But here in interbuz it is rather easy to check and see that YESrall arehrinkin

  7. jl says:

    “A common tactic with Monckton- cherry-picking facts during a presentation where no one can check his sources and confront him.” You mean like Obama just did when he presented all this garbage? John, your lack of awareness astounds me.

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  13. Gail Combs says:

    John, Nice bit of subterfuge there but it didn’t work.

    1960 IS THE CENTER and not the END! The duration is 80 years so half of 80 is 40 plus 1960 is 2000 and that is about when the temperature record plateaued.

    On page 53 of Usoskin’s work

    4.4.1
    Grand maxima of solar activity
    The modern episode of active sun
    We have been presently living in a period of very high sun activity with a level of activity that is unprecedentedly high for the last few centuries covered by direct solar observation. The sunspot number was growing rapidly between 1900 and 1940, with more than a doubling average group sunspot number, and has remained at that high level until recently (see Figure 1)…..

    page 54

    Table 2: Approximate dates (in –BC/AD) of grand maxima in the SN-L series. (after Usoskin et al.,
    2007).
    center…. duration
    † 1960……. 80….

    This is backed up by the graph on page 48 Figure 17
    is a graph –

    Figure 17: Sunspot activity (over decades, smoothed with a 12221 filter) throughout the Holocene, reconstructed from 14 C by Usoskin et al. (2007) using geomagnetic data by Yang et al. (2000). Blue and
    red areas denote grand minima and maxima, respectively

    That graph shows the Grand Maximum continuing to 2000 but peaking just before.

    An independent check with NASA:

    April 1, 2009: The sunspot cycle is behaving a little like the stock market. Just when you think it has hit bottom, it goes even lower.

    2008 was a bear. There were no sunspots observed on 266 of the year’s 366 days (73%). To find a year with more blank suns, you have to go all the way back to 1913, which had 311 spotless days: plot. Prompted by these numbers, some observers suggested that the solar cycle had hit bottom in 2008.

    Maybe not. Sunspot counts for 2009 have dropped even lower. As of March 31st, there were no sunspots on 78 of the year’s 90 days (87%).

    It adds up to one inescapable conclusion: “We’re experiencing a very deep solar minimum,” says solar physicist Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center.

    “This is the quietest sun we’ve seen in almost a century,” agrees sunspot expert David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Center.

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