Who really lost? The viewers, who had to listen to this drivel, something I’ve never seen before, and I put the onus directly on Donald Trump, for dragging the discourse down instead of focusing on issues in a substantive manner
(Fox News) What did Michigan voters think about tonight’s GOP debate in Detroit?
Frank Luntz shared the reactions of his focus group on a special post-debate edition of The Kelly File.
The voters had some very negative things to say about the tone of the debate, objecting to the intense personal attacks and lamenting a lack of substance.
Using words like “sophomoric,” “shameful” and “despicable,” the voters agreed that this debate did not help the GOP overall.
That focus group picked John Kasich as the winner, mostly for staying above the fray. Here’s how The Hill scores it
Winners:
- Megyn Kelly, for apparently asking questions to Donald Trump
- Donald Trump: for surviving the cage match, which he mostly started
- Hillary Clinton: because the cage match in the first half was an embarrassment, and a protracted fight can supposedly help her
- Ted Cruz: for smacking Trump around on his previous Democratic Party positions and donations
Mixed
- John Kasich, because, who?
Losers
- Marco Rubio, who seemed tired and somewhat listless. His attacks took away his optimism and youthfullness
- GOP Establishment: because neither Rubio nor Kasich really have a path to the nomination
Meanwhile, in case you missed it, both of the previous GOP presidential losers, Mitt Romney and John McCain, are having hissy fits towards Trump. It’s not that they’re necessarily wrong, they’re just the wrong people to deliver the message.
Crossed at Right Wing News.
I saw a brief bit of fact-checking on debate statements this morning while I was getting ready for work, one which rated one of Ted Cruz’s claims as true, and one of Donald Trump’s claims (about Trump University) as mostly false. But the Trumpinistas were watching Mr Trump make his claim last night, and believed it, and weren’t watching the news this morning, and wouldn’t care about him lying even if they knew he did.
Take climate models that don’t work, and guesstimate what might happen…
Yep, climate “science” in a nutshell.
We vote tomorrow and I am going Trump. Would consider Cruz, but he is not good in the general election or in getting things done. Rubio is a jerk, liar, and will follow the party line which is the same as the Dems party line.