As Patterico writes “This is an unmitigated disaster, and Never Trumpers have nothing to do with it. This is on Donald Trump and the people who selected him.”
(NBC News) As Donald Trump’s campaign reels over tapes of the presidential candidate’s sexually aggressive comments about women in 2005, the Republican nominee now trails Hillary Clinton by double digits among likely voters, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
The poll, conducted on Saturday and Sunday but before the second presidential debate, shows Clinton with 46 percent support among likely voters in a four-way matchup, compared to 35 percent for Trump.
Head to head, it’s Clinton 52 Trump 38. Here’s where it gets worse
Forty-nine percent of voters say they’d like to see Democrats in power on Capitol Hill, compared to 42 percent who chose the GOP.
That’s up from a three-point advantage for Democrats (48 percent to 45 percent) last month, and it’s the largest advantage for Democrats since the October 2013 government shutdown.
On the “maybe it’s not so bad side”, this was a poll of 500 registered voters, rather than likely voters, held the 8-9, so, a small sample of people who might not even vote.
This was always the worry, that nominating Trump would harm the down ballot efforts. We can talk about those leftist media bastards, but, we always knew what they would do, as it is always what they do. Trump and his supporters seem to want to run against the media, rather than Hillary. I have Trumpites in my Twitter timeline yammering on about “standing up to the crooked media” and they are most definitely on the ballot.
Trump is not helping, and, if something happens which allows him to win in a squeaker, he will need a GOP Congress to get anything done. One of the biggest dangers is that GOP voters don’t bother going to the polling places at all, saying “to hell with it.”
Can he climb back? Possibly. He needs a miracle. Because he sure doesn’t have a ground game. Limited campaign headquarters, limited get out the vote programs, limited phone banks, very few radio and TV commercials. I have no idea what he is actually doing with the money her raises.
(Huff Post) But even before the video was leaked, Trump’s poll numbers showed him significantly behind where Republican nominee Mitt Romney stood at this point four years ago.
In mid-October 2012, Romney lagged President Barack Obama by just about half a percentage point in HuffPost Pollster’s model of the race. By contrast, Trump’scurrent polling average, which still largely reflects polls taken before the latest revelations, puts him more than 6 points behind Hillary Clinton in a head-to-head race. That’s a gap more than 10 times larger than Romney’s.
If the GOP loses what should have been an easy election against Hillary, as well as the either or both parts of Congress, you can lay it at the feet of those who chose Trump, especially people like Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, and Laura Ingraham.
Crossed at Right Wing News.
He’s been using campaign funds to 1) repay himself for loans to the campaign and 2) purchasing campaign services through companies he owns.
This is all perfectly legal. A billionaire who claimed he would self-finance his campaign is using small dollar donations from supporters to support his brand, his value. This is what Trump is really, really good at.
Gee wouldn’t it have been nice to at least not have a candidate that doesn’t set himself on fire because he’s bored and who only has a couple skeletons instead of a whole graveyard in his closet.
A clearer distinction from Hillary would have helped. Of course I’m a cuckservative and “stab-in-the-back” type because of saying this.
Donald Trump has so discouraged enough Republicans that I wouldn’t be surprised to see a presidential-race-sized Democratic turnout versus an off-year-election sized Republican turnout. Out of seventeen candidates, we had sixteen who could have defeated Hillary Clinton, so naturally we nominated the one who can’t.
I’m voting for Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate. The Republican nominee hasn’t carried Pennsylvania since 1988, so my voting for Mr Johnson won’t help Mrs Clinton win, but it will send more of a message than a wasted vote for Mr Trump.
Shouldn’t Fox News Drudge Rush all be included in those who helped Trump become your nominee Teach ?
Ohhh how some hearted to hear him talk about building that wall and deporting them all. No other candidate was as tough on immigration as that guy and immigration was top issue since they were causing all of the problems in the USA
Throughout Obama’s regime they were FLOODING across our borders, even as the total number somehow dropped from Bush’s record high. When Trump said he would deport whole families, including those damn “anchor” babies I can’t remember you Teach saying anything
When Trump made overt appeals to racists and put them into his policy making group you said nothing
When Trump made anti women comments you held your tongue (Reagan’s 11th Commandment: say nothing bad about fellow Republicans) When Trump said that women should be punished for having an abortion…… crickets from Teach
When Trump said that he was OK with Russian actions in the Crimea and Ukraine….. nada.
When the facts that he is debt heavily to Russian oligarchs came out……. zero from Teach
The worst I can recall is saying that you don’t trust him.
A bit too late for buyers remorse Trump
Based on head-to-head polling, the GOP had several candidates who would have beaten Secretary Clinton handily – if they had nominated them. Kasich, JEB, Christie, Rubio… The GOP could have had the House, the Senate, the White House… 2 or 3 Supreme Court nominees over the next 4 years. All the Dems could have done would be use Senate rules to stop a 4 year conservative caliphate. Conservatives could have fixed SS, Medicare, repealed Obamacare, cut taxes, cut regulations, stop the Paris agreement, fixed immigration, surveillance on Muslims, nuke ISIS, cut domestic spending, increase defense spending etc.
Instead, Repubs on the street preferred the loudmouth, brash Trump.
As a liberal Dem I’m happy/scared that they nominated Trump. Happy because he was the weakest general election candidate, scared because there was a chance, even if slight, he would win.
Are you not entertained?!?
I love how John drags me in to this, when I’ve been quite clear that I would have preferred many other Republicans over Trump, and I’ve written way more than that I don’t trust him. But, I’m not going to get into it, because it is just a standard John deflect by making this personal move. I warned on Trump, and, if John has zero memory, that’s his problem, not mine.
Funny how John loves Hillary and all her issues. With Trump, it’s mostly things that are personal failings. With Hillary, it’s things that hurt other people and national security.
Not really. Because, for the most part, Trump only gives information for posts I do not want to write. It’s usually like “read news on Trump, do facepalm, look for something else.” Because I don’t support him, I just wanted to be #NeverHillary. He’s never reached out and said he wanted the votes from people like me. In fact, he’s said he doesn’t need Conservatives. Which should have been a clue for those pushing Trump.
Brash and anti-PC can only go so far. Plus, the guy has no clue how to run a campaign.
“If the GOP loses what should have been an easy election against Hillary”…
I doubt any repub candidate would have had an easy election against Hillary. No matter who the repubs would have nominated, the media would have savaged them as they did to the very honorable McCain and Romney.
Look what they were doing to Rubio….his fishing boat was referred to as a luxury speedboat – somehow a scandal, his parking tickets were a problem, his early financial struggles a disaster. They’d have done the same to anyone opposing hillary.
As to: “you can lay [the upcoming defeat] it at the feet of those who chose Trump…
Include me. The one thing I’ve learned is that there’s little difference between the two parties, with one glaring exception – the democrats play to win.
At this stage, if Trump loses, I’ll do all I can to ruin the republican party.
The dems have at least been honest in their disdain for people like me. The repubs have promised otherwise and never failed to disappoint. I’ll go with the enemy I know, not the enemy who pretends to be my friend.
I have voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election since 1980. For some of the candidates, I was enthusiastic, while others — think Bob Dole in 1996 and John McCain in 2008 — not so much, but I saw all as preferable to the Democrat. I have voted for a Democrat in a major race only a couple of times, the most notable being Doug Wilder in the 1989 Virginia gubernatorial race, because the Republican, Marshall Coleman, was a complete [insert slang term for the rectum here], and always for a fairly special reason.
For me to refuse to vote for the Republican presidential nominee says a lot about what kind of
manperson that nominee is. I supported first Scott Walker, and then Carly Fiorina, in the primaries, but I could have voted for any of the other fourteen candidates, some with pride and some kind of meh!, but I cannot, and will not, vote for Donald Trump.Only 2 choices, Trump or Hillary. I know how I’m voting.
Trump is not helping, and, if something happens which allows him to win in a squeaker, he will need a GOP Congress to get anything done.
Not really. His campaign promises can mostly be accomplished entirely by enforcing existing law and using a massive existing budget. He really doesn’t need congressional support. And I would find this argument more credible if the Republican Congress hadn’t just finished 6 years of totally cooperating with Obama. Does anyone think they would not fully cooperate with President Hillary?
@Dana. Good luck with that message sending. In case you haven’t noticed, no one is listening to your messages, whether you send them or not. Politicians are totally tone deaf. Plenty of “messages have been sent in prior elections and the ruling class has always interpreted the message to be whatever self-serving message suits them best.
Why that poll is horseshit…
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/10/11/media-polling-fully-exposed-about-that-nbcwsj-clinton-11-point-poll/
The average of polls show Trump behind by 5-6% nationally, although some of the latest polls show 11 point Clinton leads. The LA Times polls have consistently shown Trump up from 2 to 6 points nationally. Polls by the end of the week should reflect his “fine” performance in the debate last Sunday.
The fivethirtyeight analysis of swing state polls shows Clinton ahead slightly in FL, OH, NC, IA and by over 5% in places like PA, VA, NH, WI, MN, etc. It’s a daunting electoral map for Trump, but this season has been marked with exceptional volatility in the electorate, so he can still rally. Voters dislike both candidates and are fed up with DC as usual.
The polls have been pretty accurate at predicting results over the past several national elections. Ignoring them is “whistling past the graveyard.”
If Trump doesn’t tighten to within a couple of points nationally he has little chance.
The only poll that matters is Nov. 8.
The rest are just gaslighting by the media.
The LA Times polls have consistently shown Trump up from 2 to 6 points nationally.
This poll is entirely different then the other polls which sample a complete different set of people each time.
This poll takes 3000 people divided up by all demographics, religion, race etc….and then track the same people for the entire election cycle to see if their is movement in or out of their current positions including are they or are they not going to vote.
A poll like this was done in 2012 and while other polls had Romney within 1/2 of a percent and winning states he lost……….This poll showed obama winning and named the exact margin within .10 of a percent and even picked every state accurately.
So this is why the Outlier of the La Times poll has been paid so much attention……..It is still showing Trump leading this thing when the rubber meets the road just as it did for Obama in 2012 and very accurately as well.
Voter fraud…why voter i.d. should be mandatory
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0
Draft Dodger Donnie says he “wouldn’t want to be in a foxhole” with John McCain.
How close has cowardly Donnie ever come to a foxhole?
Maybe he can beat the enemy by snatching a kiss and grabbing a snatch.
Draft dodger? You really want to go there? OK. I believe that your hero’s hubby also ‘dodged’ the same draft. And Hillary herself never served as well. So that bit of draft dodger crap only exposes your desperation.
And if you are going to hint that someone else is vulgar then try not to use even more vulgar terms to do it. And in case you forgot, Hillary’s hubby actually did the things that Trump only talked about. And Hillary apparently condones those actions.
Your defense that Donnie Boy dodged the draft is that someone else did? Was Secretary Clinton even eligible for the draft during the Vietnam War? Pretty weak tea, even by your standards.
Trumpf said he wouldn’t share a foxhole with a war hero like John McCain. That’s deplorable even for Trumpf. And that’s the point. If Trumpf had served like a real man, he might have a bit of moral heft to viciously attack a war hero (why he would I can’t even imagine). But Trumpf was too busy keeping Black folks out of his apartment buildings to fight in a war he supported (it was good for business) so he avoided service with “bad feet”.
Trumpf’s spouse turned tricks, but she’s not running for president, her draft dodging husband is.
Bill Clinton (who is not running for president) is accused of the same vile acts (rape, sexual assault) as Trumpf is (who is running for president). The main difference is Trumpf is currently defending himself in court for raping a 13 yr old girl. Do you believe the Clinton accusers but not the Trumpf accusers? Bill Clinton never admitted to grabbing their pussies, Trumpf did.
We need to face the fact that Trumpf is whole bag of dicks.
You just knew the moment that Drumpf denied groping women on national TV, that a group of girls and women would come forward with their accusations.
Maybe little guy can tell us how manly he was when he signed up to serve.
Navy, Air Force, Army, Marines?
Which one, little man?
Bubba paid $850,000 to Paula Jones or did you just conveniently forget that?
Army, you?
And your MOS, little guy?
Where was your command, little guy?