TDS: Trump Derangement Syndrome. This is something we’ll be seeing for at least the next 4 years, as, no matter what happens, the Left and their complaint media will find fault
(Washington Post) President-elect Donald Trump spoke Friday with Taiwan’s president, a major departure from decades of U.S. policy in Asia and a breach of diplomatic protocol with ramifications for the incoming president’s relations with China.
The call is the first known contact between a U.S. president or president-elect with a Taiwanese leader since before the United States broke diplomatic relations with the island in 1979. China considers Taiwan a province, and news of the official outreach by Trump is likely to infuriate the regional military and economic power. (snip)
It is not clear whether Trump intends a more formal shift in U.S. relations with Taiwan or China. On the call, Trump and Tsai congratulated each other on winning their elections, a statement from Trump’s transition office said.
A breach of protocol? Sure. Even some Republicans wet the bed on this. Now, apparently, Taiwan president Tsai called Trump. What was he supposed to do, blow her off?
Now, here’s the thing: while Obama has been president, we were told that he could talk to anyone he wanted. He’s the president! It was a good thing when he reached out! It was super duper awesome that Obama was going to not only talk to, but work with the extremist dictatorships in Cuba and Iran! Reaching out, opening up dialogue! Hooray! This was awesome! Great! Historic!
Trump talks briefly with the democratically elected president of Taiwan? Doom! Horrible! How dare he!
Seriously, this is apparently a Major Diplomatic Crisis! Has anyone asked China if the care?
Eric Trump is working a deal for a Taiwan Trump-branded luxury resort. Coincidence that the president-elect schmoozed the new Taiwanese prez.
Trump needs to liquidate his holdings.
Jeff,
You acknowledge that it is alright to use government for profit as you support Hillary and her bogus foundation. So, you have no room to criticize.
Maybe the lying little pussy guy could tell us why.
a new world is evolving and it won’t include the global warming abusers and thieves.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Then so does every single politician at every level of government. They all make deals and they all benefit from those deals or there would be no such thing as a lobbyist.
Trump is one of the few who actually doesn’t need the money. Oddly, you didn’t seem concerned at all when Crooked Killary was skimmin’ the bucks in office.
Relax Jeffery, Trump is little more than an old line New York liberal democrat as he has been all his life. You won the election just not with the democrat candidate you thought you would.
But at least stinky lost. Hahahahaha.
Oh no we can’t piss off the Chinese. Who else will buy our debt so the government can give away free stuff to get elected. When Trump takes office he can appoint Obama Secretary of Ass Kissing, I’m sure he is more than qualified.
“How dare he!”
Well, maybe because he doesn’t act like a bed-wetting pussy.
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said the call was “just a small trick by Taiwan” and that he didn’t think it would change U.S. foreign policy toward China, according to Hong Kong’s Phoenix TV.
The adults around the world have already factored in that we have elected a tyro, and a childish one at that, so they will ignore much of what he does. This is a good sign that they see America as more than just one bad decision.
david7134: You acknowledge that it is alright to use government for profit as you support Hillary and her bogus foundation.
While there is no evidence that Clinton has profited monetarily from the Clinton Foundation, it would not be “alright” if she did.
William Teach: A breach of protocol?
Keep in mind that China is a regional power, essential to regional security. The U.S. may need to cooperate with China on many issues of concern going forward, so creating a situation where the U.S. is not a reliable or trustworthy partner may have unintended consequences.
The Clinton Foundation tax returns and the returns of the Clintons.
Anything else?
Yeah, but the good news is that Obama will be gone soon so his tyrannical and childish rule will end.
And on the plus side, Hillary Clinton will never be president.
And what “situation” has been created?
gitarcarver: The Clinton Foundation tax returns and the returns of the Clintons.
We are familiar with both. There is no evidence of the Clintons receiving money from the Clinton Foundation.
drowningpuppies: And what “situation†has been created?
Breaking decades-long understandings between countries can create a situation where the U.S. is not considered a reliable or trustworthy partner.
That sounds like the definition of the Obama foreign policy.
And what decades long understanding has been broken and what situation has been created…?
Directly? No.
But the Clintons were able to use the foundation as a tax write off (essentially donating to themselves) and Bill and Hillary were paid for speeches made on behalf of and in the name of the Clinton Foundation.
Just because there is a cut out does not mean that the Clintons did not receive pay in the name of the Foundation.
You may not believe this Zachriel but when normal people do things for charity they actually do it for free and donate money themselves at the same time. I realize I’m not as rich and powerful as the Clintons but I did actually earn my money legally over a 45 year career of starting and building businesses, employing real live non politically connected citizens and making investments. Unlike the Clintons who spent the lions share of their entire lives like pigs at the public trough. And unlike the Clintons I give my time, my money, my dedication and my service to several charities and I’ve never received a speaking fee, a serving dinner to the poor fee, a Christmas party for orphans fee or a fee of any kind from Children’s Hospital. I’ve never used my position as a 32nd Degree Mason, a Knights Templar or a Veteran to collect gratuities for myself, only my charities.
The Klepto Klintons are corrupt. The fact that people like you still can’t admit it is good. It means we’ll keep winning elections until you can.
Zachriel: We are familiar with both. There is no evidence of the Clintons receiving money from the Clinton Foundation.
gitarcarver: Directly? No.
LOL.
gitarcarver: But the Clintons were able to use the foundation as a tax write off (essentially donating to themselves)
Umm. No. Like anyone they can legally donate to legal charities and take legal deductions. The Clinton Foundation does not funnel money to the Clinton family (see your previous answer reproduced above).
Remember when Mr. Trump had friends donate to the Trump Foundation, take tax deductions, and then Trump used that tax-free money to pay his personal legal liabilities, bribe the FL AG and buy portraits of himself? In fact, Trump had to pay a fine over the illegal payment to the AG Bondi in FL.
Regarding speeches, Sec Clinton is well paid to give speeches, as are Trump and many other celebrities. The Foundation had announced that if Sec Clinton were elected, it would no longer accept donations from foreign donors or foreign corporations.
Anyway, why the misdirection? It was in all the papers that Trump won and Clinton lost. Shouldn’t we be interested in Trump’s potential conflicts of interest, where his personal business interests in foreign countries may be at odds with the repercussions from US policy decisions.
Ah yes, the lying little pussy guy is misleading again but that’s what he does.
As I said Jeffery, not directly, But it is cleat the the Clinton Foundation was used as a go-between to make questionable deals and the Clintons were paid to speak on behalf of the Foundation.
You really do have comprehension problems.
Have you told your wife that you think she is delusional and weak minded yet Jeffery?
What have the Crooked Klintons ever one that warrants a $500,000 speech? Have they invented something? Built a business? No, they have government connections and influence to sell and that is called corruption. Trump has a business and entertainment name an has never been in government and the same with “many other celebrities”. They aren’t making money off of selling government access like the traitorous, lying, corrupt Klintons do.
Hopefully they will end up in prison. Hahahaha.
Rev Shitty Butt,
And that’s the price we pay for freedom. People will pay Hillary Clinton $250,000 for a 40 min speech. Great work if you can get it. Ryan Howard hit .191 and made $25 million last year. Kim Kardashian made $51 million. Howard Stern over $80 million, Kevin Hart almost $100 million, One Direction over $100 million. Trump made over $200 million for appearing on The Apprentice. A grammar school teacher contributes more to society than Trump, but that’s just how the system works. Granted, neither Clinton’s speeches nor The Apprentice enriched our culture but that is not how we assess value.
You know what warrants a $500,000 speech? That someone will pay to hear it. Period. That’s it. Welcome to America. Does a back-up 2nd baseman “deserve” $5 million a year? His GM thinks so. The Clinton’s made over $10 million last year according to their tax returns, mostly from speeches.
As an aside, do you think Kevin Hart’s and Kim Kardashian’s taxes are too high? Or should we continue to collect taxes from them so that people who work even harder than them can have healthcare?
You call the Clintons corrupt but have yet to supply any evidence beyond your “feelings”. Hahahaha
the Trump Foundation was fined for making an illegal donation to FL AG Pam Bondi, “coincidentally” just before she declined to investigate the Trump “University” scam. We call that “pay not to play”.
N.B. – Trump paid $25 million to settle the Trump “University” scam case.
BTW, there are several dozen more lawsuits against Trump and Trump Inc. working their way through the courts.
At least 60 are cases where people accused deadbeat Trump of failing to pay them what they were owed: cabinet makers, electricians, painters, carpenters, lawyers, real estate agents, bartenders and hourly workers at his luxury resorts.
As much as Trump likes to use his army of lawyers and wealth to beat up on little people he’ll end up settling these to avoid depositions and being made to testify.
More troubling might be the upcoming sexual assault suits. It’s rumored the case where he’s accused of raping a 13 yr old girl will be re-filed for two reasons – to embarrass the lecher and to get a quick settlement.
The objective is to make certain Trump serves only 4 years, preferably fewer.
Not anymore.
If your wife is SecState or potential POTUS.
But not anymore.
Poor Jeffery.
Not only cannot he read and comprehend, now he is having memory lapses.
He’s even forgotten that he has abused his wife.
Rev Urine-soaked Depend,
More easy money Americans who make much more than the Clintons:
Recently dismissed Wells-Fargo CEO John Stumpf, after overseeing his corporation bilking Americans out of hundreds of millions and then blaming his workers, is walking away with more than $100 million in vested stock, along with a 401(k) and pension worth more than $24 million. Wells-Fargo was fined $185 million for their actions. Do you think we should “lock him up”?
Did you ever come up with that evidence to put the Clintons away? Hahahaha
The little lying pussy guy keeps flailing away.
Rev Putrid Stench,
Let me know if you or any of your fluffer minions come up with evidence that would put the Clintons in jail.
Otherwise, suck it…
Another lie.
The donation was supposed to be a gift to another similar sounding group but was given to a group with ties to Bondi – not to Bondi herself as you assert. It should also be noted that the donation was made three years ago.
The donation was shown on Trump’s filings as a donation and not a political donation, even though he had made other political contributions to other candidates on both sides of the aisle.
Still, this is another case of you hypocritically trying to shift the blame from Clinton to Trump.
We can work back on her corruption….
The email scandal: Clinton lied under oath on the emails as well as broke the law when she deleted emails that were work related. She also broke the law by having the server itself.
Cheryl MIlls worked with Clinton while negotiating with Abu Dhabi to build a campus for NYU. Abu Dhabi gave money to the Clinton Foundation.
Huma Abedin’s job at Foggy Bottom was changed to allow her to negotiate with Teneco, a company that later gave money to Hillary.
The Clinton campaign conspired with media organizations to control the spin on issues as emails have shown. Clinton actually edited her own quotes for the New York Times, which is a violation of laws and journalistic ethics from the newspaper. Just goes to show you that dirty birds of a feather flock together.
The pay for play donation from Qutar is but one example of Hillary breaking her own agreement with the State Department and the DOJ.
Bill Clinton stopping Lynch on the tarmac is a breach of ethics as well.
We can play this game all day long Jeffery. Clinton was and is corrupt and you support her.
So have you told you wife that you think she is delusional and weak minded? Or do you just put that out there because you like abusing her in public?
Rev Stinky Butt,
We understand why you and your fluffers obsess about the Clintons: to distract from Trump’s severe deficiencies.
But in America, we don’t put white people in jail (except Martha Stewart) for nothing. Even Gen. David Petraeus, Trump’s potential Sec of State, and admitted “traitor”, didn’t go to jail. As Sec of State he’ll have to notify his parole officer if he intends to visit his mistresses out of state. Hahahahah
You named a whole bunch of people who get paid to make speeches about business or sports or some other sellable product they represent. Exactly what sellable product does the criminal stinky Killary represent? That’s right, corruption. Collusion. Graft. bribery. Illegal access. Treason.
So while you are trying and failing to keep President Trump to a 4 year term, we will be trying to get a 20 year sentence for Killary the pig.
You do realize every time you post you lose? And every time you call me a name you lose completely. Thank you. hahahahaha,
Zachriel: Breaking decades-long understandings between countries can create a situation where the U.S. is not considered a reliable or trustworthy partner.
Rev.Hoagie®: That sounds like the definition of the Obama foreign policy.
Pew: “As he nears the end of his presidency, Barack Obama continues to enjoy a broad degree of international popularity.”
Zachriel: Breaking decades-long understandings between countries can create a situation where the U.S. is not considered a reliable or trustworthy partner.
drowningpuppies: And what decades long understanding has been broken and what situation has been created…?
Please note the modal auxiliary.
drowningpuppies: Directly? No.
Heh.
drowningpuppies: But the Clintons were able to use the foundation as a tax write off (essentially donating to themselves)
They aren’t donating to themselves if they don’t use Foundation funds for their personal use,.
drowningpuppies: and Bill and Hillary were paid for speeches made on behalf of and in the name of the Clinton Foundation.
The money paid for the speeches was given to the Foundation, and counted as revenues.
Rev.Hoagie®: You may not believe this Zachriel but when normal people do things for charity they actually do it for free and donate money themselves at the same time.
The Clintons have donated time and money to the Clinton Foundation.
The Trump Foundation has admitted to “self-dealing”.
Speeches made on behalf of the Foundation were given to the Foundation, which treated the money as revenue. The gray-area is that the same organizations that donate to the Foundation also hired the Clintons to give business speeches.
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What has George Clooney done to warrant $600k for a speech? Reagan charged $1 million a speech in 1989, back when $1 million was real money. Hillary Clinton ($250k) doesn’t get paid as much as Donald Trump ($1500k), but does get paid more than Condoleezza Rice ($150k) or Newt Gingrich ($60k).
More than likely the Clintons will still command high fees for speaking. Gee whiz! Larry the Cable Guy gets more then $200k!
The FBI has determined that prosecution was not warranted in the email server case.
And your point?
Law enforcement should not determine whether to prosecute people. That is what there are prosecutors for. The fact of the matter is that Clinton broke the law and got a pass for it from the Obama administration.
Uh. No. Even the IRS has said there were improprieties in the fees and the bookkeeping of the foundation.
Called it!
Jeffery says there is no proof and then ignores when proof is given to him.
He must be too busy abusing his wife to actually read what is said.
You are suffering from the same leftist dementia that Jeffery is. George Clooney is NOT in government. The ONLY thing Stinky could do was grant government favors, take bribes, and corrupt the system. I don’t care why Clooney gets his money I only know he can’t affect policy. Ronald Reagan was a private citizen when he got a million, not selling government favors for his family crime syndicate.
It doesn’t matter how much Trump or Stinky or Rice or Newt get paid for their jobs. That isn’t the point. What does Stinky Klinton’s salary have to do with her corrupt bribes disguised as “speaking fees”?
The FBI recently changed the name of the RICO Act to: Racketeer Influenced Clinton Organization. Stinky is a corrupt politician, a thief and a traitor. She needs 20 years in Leavenworth to write her memoires.
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The FBI is charged with making recommendations to the Justice Department.
In this case, career investigators with the FBI unanimously recommended against indictment. It would be highly unusual for the Justice Department to pursue charges in such a situation.
The funds should have been treated as donations, not revenues. However, you falsely claimed that “the Clintons were paid to speak on behalf of the Foundation.”
No. He is, however, in the business of giving speeches, as are the Clintons. The going-rate for speeches depends on one’s celebrity. The price the Clintons charge is similar to other popular speakers.
There are legitimate questions that can be raised about the nexus of money and power, but making stuff up isn’t one of them.
Yes, Zachriel the Clintons have always been known for their generosity, selflessness and altruism. In the dictionary under the word “philanthropist” is their family portrait. Hahahahahahahahahahaha….Hahahahahahahaha.
You guys are so blind you may never win another election. Keep up the good work.
Facts are facts. The Clintons have donated both time and money to the Clinton Foundation, which among other things, helps provide life-saving drugs to millions of people.
If you are a celebrity, yes. Stinky and her spouse Slimy are NOT celebrities, they are Politicians and they get paid to provide political favors.
Really? I wouldn’t know but if you say that “celebrities” or “other popular speakers” get paid $500 grand to give a speech about their film career I’ll take your word for it.
And yet millions of Haitians go unconvinced. As do I. The Clintons strike me as the type who “donate” with the expectancy of a ten fold return. I would be more convinced if they “donated” to charities they did not control. That’s why people like the Clintons start “foundations”. To fool the slower among us into believing they just couldn’t give to the United Fund, The Red Cross or the Christian Children’s Fund. In reality they start a foundation to steal money. They can already give money to a thousand charities but can only steal the money from their own. After all Zach, facts are facts.
Of course they’re celebrities. Specially, their presence draws people to events.
Celebrity speaking is an industry, and, as with most things, you can shop on-line. See also, Celebrity Booking Rate List.
Bill Clinton started a foundation because he could leverage his connections to raise money, and because he could use his policy knowledge to develop new methods of charitable giving. For instance, instead of simply buying drugs, they led negotiatiations for discounts for impoverished countries. They have also worked with the Gates Foundation on developing new ways approaching the problems of development.
http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/7329/the-clinton-and-gates-foundations-global-health-superpowers
Z: Specially, their presence draws people to events.
Specifically, …
No they are not. The FBI is an investigative agency, not a prosecutorial one.
Once again, no.
Comey is not a “career investigator.” Furthermore, actual career agents have said that Clinton broke the law.
What is highly unusual is the FBI making a recommendation at all. In fact, if you read Comey’s statement, he says that people have been prosecuted for the crime Hillary committed in the past and would be prosecuted in the future. The only variable in the facts is the person who broke the law.
It is not a false accusation. It is the truth.
While not a prosecutorial agency, the FBI can and does recommend for or against indictments. What was unusual was making the recommendation public in the Clinton case.
Comey was not on the investigative team.
None that were on the investigative team.
False. Comey: “In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts.”
False. Comey: {Charging Clinton} “would be treating somebody differently because of their celebrity status or because of some other factor that doesn’t matter. We have to treat people, the bedrock of our system of justice, we have to treat people fairly. We treat them the same based on their conduct.â€
Repeating it doesn’t make it more supportable. We provided evidence. The issue was how the money was handled. They gave a speech. The money was given to the Clinton Foundation. They treated it as revenue, when it should have been treated as a donation. Either way, the Clinton Foundation received the money, but because the speech was a salable commodity (it’s an industry, remember?) it should have been treated as a donation.
Of course he did. (snicker, snicker). I realize you have no reason to not believe that. I really do. It’s your nature. You want to believe. I, on the other hand, believe Bill Clinton and his Smelly wife are thieves. Grifters. And I believe they have been all their adult lives which is why they have been investigated for everything from drug deals in Arkansas to deaths in Benghazi to unsecured (and treasonous) email accounts.
They may escape unpunished, they have so far. But I hope to live to see her in the SHU of Leavenworth. After all, as a “celebrity” she can’t be placed in general population so solitary it is.
Meanwhile Zach, if you guys don’t change, admit you were wrong and vow to do better you will never recover from this election. Carrying a torch for the crooked Clintons is not progress, it’s the definition of insanity.
Y’all are flailing as much as that little pussy guy and again attributing comments to me that I didn’t make.
Again, what decades long understanding has been broken and what situation has been created…?