Let’s get right to it
Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32
Leigh Corfman says she was 14 years old when an older man approached her outside a courtroom in Etowah County, Ala. She was sitting on a wooden bench with her mother, they both recall, when the man introduced himself as Roy Moore.
It was early 1979 and Moore — now the Republican nominee in Alabama for a U.S. Senate seat — was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney. He struck up a conversation, Corfman and her mother say, and offered to watch the girl while her mother went inside for a child custody hearing. (snip)
Alone with Corfman, Moore chatted with her and asked for her phone number, she says. Days later, she says, he picked her up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, drove her about 30 minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was and kissed her. On a second visit, she says, he took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear.
“I wanted it over with — I wanted out,†she remembers thinking. “Please just get this over with. Whatever this is, just get it over.†Corfman says she asked Moore to take her home, and he did.
Over the years, she has said nothing. Not during other runs for office. But, interestingly, now she comes out?
Aside from Corfman, three other women interviewed by The Washington Post in recent weeks say Moore pursued them when they were between the ages of 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s, episodes they say they found flattering at the time, but troubling as they got older. None of the three women say that Moore forced them into any sort of relationship or sexual contact.
Of the four women, the youngest at the time was Corfman, who is the only one who says she had sexual contact with Moore that went beyond kissing. She says they did not have intercourse.
Now, I’m not here to judge Moore one way or the other. I’ll get to that in a minute. But, let’s note that other than Corfman being 14 at the time, none of this is illegal activity! There is no allegation of sexual assault, harassment, or impropriety, other than the women being younger than he was. Everything was consensual. The age of consent in Alabama is 16.
And, seriously, this occurred 38 years ago.
Interestingly, the same people who are getting the vapors over this have continuously defended Bill Clinton over numerous allegations of sexual assault, including rape, and had no problem with him getting oral sex in the White House from a female intern young enough to be his daughter. Nor did these same people have a problem with Bill and Hillary working hard to destroy these women.
“These allegations are completely false and are a desperate political attack by the National Democrat Party and the Washington Post on this campaign,†Moore, now 70, said.
The campaign said in a subsequent statement that if the allegations were true they would have surfaced during his previous campaigns, adding “this garbage is the very definition of fake news.â€
Moore has a full statement here.
Now, some nascent Republicans are doing their normal schtick, saying he needs to go. Ones like Jonah Goldberg and John McCain, forgetting that these are allegations
https://twitter.com/WilliamTeach/status/928820225633550338
And therein lies a few problems. Some Republicans are willing to throw their people to the wolves in a heartbeat. Remember Larry Craig? Forced out over a misdemeanor which was just an attempt for consensual sex. Yet, Democrats let several of their own back in, such as William “Cold Cash” Jefferson. There are only minor calls for Senator Menendez to resign.
Second, and more important, yeah, Due Process, innocent till proven guilty, and so forth. Allegations require proof. I really haven’t touched all the allegations towards all the Hollywood folks and others, because they are just that: allegations. Many seem to have little in the way of proof. But, there is a huge difference between a lot of them and Moore: they are accused of things like sexual assault, rape, abuse of power, sexual harassment. Moore is being accused of …. trying to date.
If it’s true about the 14 year old, then he should step down. But, this requires actual proof, not an allegation from 38 years ago.
Do you believe the complaints against Louie CK, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey etc? I do.
Or do you only question the complaints against conservatives like Roger Ailes, Roy Moore and Bill O’Reilly?
One Alabama Repub dismissed the complaints against Moore by stating that Mary was a teenager and birthed his Christ! LOL.
Link?
With Weinstein, it’s at a point where it is utterly credible. Bill Clinton? Yes. Louie CK? Don’t like the guy, but, not so sure at this point. Same with Spacey.
Ailes and O’Reilly? Yes. Credible.
But, remember, just like with Moore, Weinstein, Louie, and Kevin all deserve Due Process.
Kevin Spacey has not denied it, saying only that if such happened, he was drunk. Bill O’Reilly has denied everything, but he has personally paid millions in a ‘settlement’; that constitutes actual evidence. Bill Clinton left DNA evidence on a particular blue dress. Harvey Wallbanger ‘voluntarily’ entered ‘treatment.’
But Roy Moore? He has denied it, and there is no actual evidence against him. Sorry, but this looks more like a Democratic dirty trick to steal a Senate seat to me, an updated Anita Hill try. Two statewide elections previously, and no such claims were made. A two-state, statewide primary, and no one said anything. It’s only now, with the general election close at hand, that this stuff comes out.
Alabamans should vote for Mr Moore. If evidence later develops that yes, he made passes at underaged girls, he can then be forced to resign, or be expelled, from the Senate, and the Governor can appoint a Republican to replace him.
Amazing how Mr Moore has run two statewide campaigns before, but there were no such allegations against him. He ran a statewide primary, in two rounds, against Luther Strange, and no one said anything. Now, with the general election less than a month away, shazamm! we have not one, not two, not three, but four women saying that he tried to get in their pants, when they were underaged, almost four decades ago.
Of course, there’s no proof of anything, just unsubstantiated allegations, designed to flip the seat from Republican to Democrat. If Mr Moore loses, you can count on it: every Republican, running for any office, anywhere, will be the subject of unsubstantiated, unprovable allegations that he somehow sexually harassed a woman, or an underaged girl, at some time in the not-very-recent past, because the Democrat dirty tricksters will dig up some lying bitches somewhere.
The left failed with the false allegations by Anita Hill, so they gave up on this bovine feces. If it works against Mr Moore, it’ll all be revived.
The obvious solution: vote for Roy Moore! Then, if it turns out that there is something to the allegations, he can resign, or be expelled by the Senate, and the Governor can appoint a Republican to fill that Republican-held seat.
What was the legal age of consent in Alabama in 1979? I recall a bunch of Georgia church people tried to get away with something or other back in the late ’90s, early ’00s, by taking 14-year-old girls to Alabama (once known as “transporting minors across state lines for immoral purposes”). So I’m not altogether sure even the girl’s age made it illegal, since no state lines were crossed.
It’s telling that the right is defending Moore’s apparent hebephilia/ephebophilia. Three other women have also come forward claiming Moore pursued them when they were teens.
Conservatives would prefer a sexual abuser, lying, cheating assh0le over any Dem, LOL.
More on Moore’s shenanigans:
How telling was it that Bill Clinton abused his position of authority over an unpaid intern barely older than his own daughter, yet allegedly it was “only about sex”?
How telling was it that Hillary Clinton headed up a team during Bill’s 1992 campaign aimed at destroying the women that came forward about Bill’s behavior?
Here’s the thing, Jeff: the allegations need proof.
Nice cut and paste, loser…
I have a lot of issues with this accusation. First and most importantly why now? other than politics that is. Second of all what was legal age back then? Third if asked what did she tell him her age was? this does not smell right it is too contrived at a very convenient time?
I might add another dimension to the thoughts on this hoax. There is mention of the guy with a 14 year old. Where were the parents. The South, especially back in the 70’s, was not big on 14 year olds running around without the parents being aware of their actions. The chance of a mother back then allowing her 14 year old do spend quality time with a guy in his 30’s is not that great. Happens, but rare.
Pretty comical that the left would bring up Moores foundation to disqualify him when they defend with their dying breath Hillary and Bill’s foundation accepting money from COMMUNISTS. Yet White Supremes are much more evil then Communists or Muslims whose own dealings go against everything the left (supposedly) stand for.
You didn’t get the message, the Clintons can do no wrong and can not be prosecuted for anything. Now, I have been trying to figure out how they did that, I would be able to go to the bank and check out any amount of money.
According to a disturbingly pleasant graphic from Information is Beautiful entitled simply 20th Century Death, communism was the leading ideological cause of death between 1900 and 2000. The 94 million that perished in China, the Soviet Union, North Korea, Afghanistan, and Eastern Europe easily (and tragically) trump the 28 million that died under fascist regimes during the same period.
Communism is a killer. And yet some still say they support the idea: According to a 2011 Rasmussen poll, 11% of Americans think that communism would better serve this country’s needs than our current system.
And it is only 11 percent because they have so dumbed down the education systems world wide that it is a travesty to talk about communism at all. If people really knew what the state was all about socialism would have no foothold in either America or the EU.
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The age of consent in Alabama in 1979 was 16; it still is today.