It’s been a year since Trump won the election. Democrats have been yammering about Russian interference even longer. Mueller has been investigating for the majority of 2017. So far, no proof of Russian collusion. People said this investigation would go off the rails in investigating everything, rather than “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump…” Mueller can basically do whatever he wants, with really no control on the scope of investigations by the Judicial branch nor Legislative Branch. At this point, the investigation is so far outside the original scope as to be nothing but revenge for winning an election
(Bloomberg) Special prosecutor Robert Mueller zeroed in on President Donald Trump’s business dealings with Deutsche Bank AG as his investigation into alleged Russian meddling in U.S. elections widens.
Mueller issued a subpoena to Germany’s largest lender several weeks ago, forcing the bank to submit documents on its relationship with Trump and his family, according to a person briefed on the matter, who asked not to be identified because the action has not been announced. (snip)
Deutsche Bank for months has rebuffed calls by Democratic lawmakers to provide more transparency over the roughly $300 million Trump owed to the bank for his real estate dealings prior to becoming president. Representative Maxine Waters of California and other Democrats have asked whether the bank’s loans to Trump, made years before he ran for president, were in any way connected to Russia. The bank previously rejectedthose demands, saying sharing client data would be illegal unless it received a formal request to do so. Trump has denied any wrongdoing. (snip)
Trump’s relationship with Deutsche Bank stretches back some two decades and the roughly $300 million he owed to the bank represented nearly half of his outstanding debt, according to a July 2016 analysis by Bloomberg. That figure includes a $170-million loan Trump took out to finish a hotel in Washington. He also has two mortgages against his Trump National Doral Miami resort and a loan against his tower in Chicago.
Trump’s holdings and other things related to Deutsche have virtually nothing to do with any sort of collusion accusation, except though magical thinking in that Deutsche does business with Russia. Like lots of giant banks.
In July, Trump said in an interview with the New York Times that if Mueller examined his family’s finances beyond any relationship with Russia he’d consider it “a violation.” Mueller’s investigation had expanded to examine a broad range of transactions involving the president’s businesses, including dealings by his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, a person familiar with the probe told Bloomberg News after the publication of the Times interview.
One has to wonder if Mueller is intentionally attempting to get Trump to fire him, so that Democrats can push impeachment over “obstruction of justice.”
This farce has gone on long enough. It was based on whiny complaints made up with no evidence, along with the totally fake FusionGPS document. Then ramped up after the election by Sore Losers. Mueller hasn’t found any evidence of collusion after all this time. A main investigator for Mueller, who’s also a Democrat supporter, was a big time Hillary supporter and wrote nasty things about Trump. And let’s not forget that none of Hillary’s aides were punished for lying to the FBI. Nor has Hillary been charged, despite lying to the FBI.
Unless Mueller can offer concrete proof that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia at this time, end it. No more witch hunts.
This has literally become a witch hunt. It is now about the entrenched establishment doing anything and everything to de-legitimize Trump. Its about them doing anything to impeach him and get him the hell out of Washington DC.
You have the FBI ignoring calls from congress for information which by law they are required to do so. Democrats saying their is nothing they see to show collusion until they receive primary challengers and then suddenly they change their mind and now Trump is an evil Russian Deep cover agent subverting America for Russia’s gain.
The guy that led HRC’s investigation was a partisan hack who interviewed HRC off the record thus guaranteeing that she could not be in trouble for lying. Flynn was interviewed on the record without even having a lawyer present. HRC had a team of lawyers present when she interviewed.
Eventually if you dig deep enough into everyone who comments here or lives in the western civilized world you will find enough dirt on them to smear their good name. That is what this has become.
This is both sides of the Isle wanting to get trump. Desperately. Because he does not play their game. He threatens their scum filled swamp. He challenges them to be better and to work for the people.
A special prosecutor on HRC will bring down dozens of rich and powerful. On both sides of the ISLE. A witch hunt for Trump threatens no one in the elite or establishment, thus let it proceed. Dilly, Dilly to the pit of misery Trump. The swamp hath spoken.
We understand your panic. Subverting an American election by actively cooperating with a foreign government is a bit more serious than getting blowjobs, isn’t it? Don’t worry though, the GOP is in power until at least 2019, and even when tRump leaves or is imprisoned, Mike Pence is there to sign the same bills as tRump. Pence is a stupid conservative but is not insane like tRump.
Mr. Mueller was appointed because tRump fired FBI Director Comey for refusing to acquiesce to tRump’s request to not pursue Flynn. Now tRump is palpably panicked with Flynn cutting a deal with Mr. Mueller. tRump recently admitted he fired Director Comey because tRump was aware of Flynn’s felony lying to the FBI.
Special prosecutors have broad mandates to pursue crimes – remember Ken Starr investigating the Whitewater land deal? Clinton ended up being impeached for lying about having a sexual affair with an intern.
The GOP impeached Clinton for lying about blow jobs, 7 years after he was elected. So these things may take time, especially with someone as complexly criminal as tRump.
Anyway, if Mueller gets too close to the truth, Papa Doc tRump will get rid of him.
The tRump administration have covered up at every turn about their dealings with the Russians. Clearly they are covering up something big, since some are willing to go to prison to cover it up. Clearly they are covering up something big, since Presinit Papa Doc saw fit to commit the obstruction of justice. What were they covering up? Collusion with Russia to subvert the election? Yep.
What evidence do you think led Mr. Mueller to Papa Doc’s Deutsche bank history?
Anyway, we understand the far-right’s desire to stop the investigation in its early stages. We’re certain that the far-right would applaud Papa Doc if he shut down the whole thing. The Grand Old Pedophiles would probably go along with him and they’d have until Nov 2018 to complete their coup.
Did conservatives clamor to stop the Clinton/Whitewater investigation during the 1990s?
He won. She will never win. Shattered.
Apparently Jeffrey believes that opposition research, if it has even the slightest connection to the Roooshuns is “subverting an American election.”
This is a classic bait-and-switch: the problem for the Democrats is that the opposition research, even if some of the information came from Russia, told the truth about their horrible candidate. Was it the Russians who hacked John Podesta’s emails, the ones which told us about Donna Brazile’s handing the lovely Mrs Clinton debate questions in advance? Maybe, but the important part is that the truth got out. Was it the Russians who hacked the DNC, and discovered that Debbie Whatshername Schultz was rigging the process in favor of Mrs Clinton? Could have been; does Jeffrey think that should have remained a secret?
And was it the Russians, directed by the evil Vladimir Putin, who found the Podesta email telling Clinton campaign aides that they needed to ‘sober her up’ at 3:30 in the afternoon? Possibly so, but should the information that she was a lush have been kept from the voters?
The voters didn’t reject Her Royal Highness because someone hacked in; the voters allowed her to remain a private citizen because of what the hacking revealed! If she’d actually been a decent person, there would’ve been nothing to reveal about her.
dana,
We understand why you, Papa Doc and the GOP wish to change the subject. By all means, impeach Hillary Clinton. Get her out of office!!
In the meantime the professional prosecutors are looking into tRump’s dealings with the Russians leading up to the election and during the transition. We’ll wait to see what they find.
We understand your panic though. Papa Doc’s only recourse will be authoritarianism. All that stands between him and mayhem is the good sense, patriotism and love of America exhibited by Republicans – if they fail, it’s up to the American people. We’ll see how it turns out.
Of course, the lovely Mrs Clinton even got the opponent she wanted, figuring that Donald Trump, whose personal foibles were all known and very public, would somehow make her own flaws seem unimportant. But Mr Trump lived on his flaws, relished them, even, and there really wasn’t anything worse to reveal about him. The ‘September surprise’ about the pussy-grabbing tape? Everybody already knew that he was that kind of guy.
But the Clintons have made a lifetime out of lying, concealing and denying things, with a complacent media to help them keep things quiet. Of course, there were no blogs, very little in the way of the internet, back in 1992, which helped her husband get away with things; in 2016, it was a lot different.
To me, the turning point might well have been on September 11th, when Mrs Clinton collapsed after the memorial service. It couldn’t be denied, the event being caught on tape, and it told the public that Mrs Clinton had been lying about her health all along. That was something the media couldn’t hide.
Had Mrs Clinton been honest, her campaign could have told the world that she was suffering from a slight bout of pneumonia, before she collapsed, and that might have saved her campaign.
September 13, 2017, on the Today show:
She couldn’t even lose gracefully.
Papa Doc could have avoided much of this kerfluffle by releasing his tax returns as other candidates have for decades.
What must be hidden in them to have evoked such a massive cover-up? Does he owe hundreds of millions to Russians? Does that influence his policy decisions and kid glove treatment of Russia?
But we understand why you wish to change the subject. Benghazi!!!
Little guy has become the Joy Behar of the Cove.
Eat it, little bitch.
He’s just trolling with no facts. Only Leftist talking points which I put to rest already in a post on this topic. Its what he does. Troll. He and his kind are why the USA is on the brink of chaos. He revels in his job of destroying America. Its what hes paid to do. Its why everything he speaks is so easy to document and prove to be nothing but concocted stories that are not true but simply talking points by the left to continue to shine the light on Trump rather than their own abysmal party that fails in everything they do.
Apparently the left is still in full tilt mode.
Timeline:
NY Time Dec.6, 2016
WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump on Tuesday fired one of his transition team’s staff members, Michael G. Flynn, the son of Mr. Trump’s choice for national security adviser, for using Twitter to spread a fake news story about Hillary Clinton that led to an armed confrontation in a pizza restaurant in Washington.
On General Flynns firing by Trump:
President Donald Trump had been weighing the fate of his national security adviser, a hard-charging, feather-ruffling retired lieutenant general who just three weeks into the new administration put himself in the center of a controversy. Flynn resigned late Monday.
The uncertainty about his future had deepened Monday when the White House issued a statement saying that Trump is “evaluating the situation” surrounding Flynn. In his resignation letter, Flynn said he held numerous calls with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. during the transition and gave “incomplete information” about those discussions to Vice President Mike Pence.
The MSM and the Democrats are all in a tizzy shouting from the roof tops that Trump knew that he lied to the FBI and the President and thats why he fired him thus obstructing justice.
In reference. He knew this from Flynn himself who admitted it to his boss who then fired him for lying to him after he was put in office and not before. He was not acting according to Trumps orders in dealing with the Russians but he might have been acting on behalf of someone inside the Trump administration. However there is still no evidence of collusion because:
They are investigating Trump colluding with the Russians to win the elections while Flynn apparently was talking to the Russians about Sanctions.
The center of a storm is a familiar place for Flynn. His military career ended when Obama dismissed him as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014. Flynn has said he was pushed out for holding tougher views than Obama about Islamic extremism. But a former senior U.S. official said the firing was for insubordination, after Flynn failed to follow guidance from superiors.
In 2016, Flynn, a lifelong if apolitical Democrat, became a trusted and eager confidant of Trump
This would suggest why he was working for Obama and was fired. He was a loose cannon who seemed to do what he wanted rather than what he was ordered to do.
But clearly thru all of this the main reason trump fired flynn was for lying not only to Pence and the transition team but also to the FBI and they knew of this when they fired him in 2016. Its what caused him to lose his job. There is no obstruction here at all.
Only a contrived narrative by the left to lock up Trump because of a Tweet that is being taken out of context. How short are the memories of the American People.
All of my references came from the NY times. An Anti-Trump mouthpiece for the left.
In 2008, Deutsche Bank Moscow (controlled by FSB, the Russian spy agency), was running a money laundering scheme for Russian VIPs/oligarchs at the same time Deutsche Bank New York was lending tRump additional millions, even after tRump tried to default on his outstanding Deutsche Bank loans and sued the bank for $3 BILLION. The profits from Moscow were funneled through the New York and London banks. This is likely what Mr. Mueller is investigating.
Fake news, little guy.
Do try to keep up.
US banks stopped lending to tRump following his multiple bankruptcies and missed payments. Deutsche Bank was the only lender to keep the failed businessman afloat, now apparently backed by Russians. Kushner, Ivanka and even Kushner’s mother are also “customers”.
What does tRump owe the Russian mobsters/oligarchs/Kremlin who saved his criminal enterprise?
This is what Mr. Mueller and his team are investigating.
Jeff,
That is a lie.