Perhaps it’s time to start writing letters accusing elected Democrats of inappropriate sexual conduct, especially stuff that occurred dozens of years ago while in school. By Democrats own talking points, those accusations should simply be believed, right? At the New Yorker, Ronan Farrow and Jane Mayer lay out a story that also throws freezing water on the accusation
As Senate Republicans press for a swift vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee to the Supreme Court, Senate Democrats are investigating a new allegation of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh. The claim dates to the 1983-84 academic school year, when Kavanaugh was a freshman at Yale University. The offices of at least four Democratic senators have received information about the allegation, and at least two have begun investigating it. Senior Republican staffers also learned of the allegation last week and, in conversations with The New Yorker, expressed concern about its potential impact on Kavanaugh’s nomination. Soon after, Senate Republicans issued renewed calls to accelerate the timing of a committee vote. The Democratic Senate offices reviewing the allegations believe that they merit further investigation. “This is another serious, credible, and disturbing allegation against Brett Kavanaugh. It should be fully investigated,†Senator Mazie Hirono, of Hawaii, said. An aide in one of the other Senate offices added, “These allegations seem credible, and we’re taking them very seriously. If established, they’re clearly disqualifying.â€
The woman at the center of the story, Deborah Ramirez, who is fifty-three, attended Yale with Kavanaugh, where she studied sociology and psychology. Later, she spent years working for an organization that supports victims of domestic violence. The New Yorker contacted Ramirez after learning of her possible involvement in an incident involving Kavanaugh. The allegation was conveyed to Democratic senators by a civil-rights lawyer. For Ramirez, the sudden attention has been unwelcome, and prompted difficult choices. She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away. Ramirez is now calling for the F.B.I. to investigate Kavanaugh’s role in the incident. “I would think an F.B.I. investigation would be warranted,†she said.
Of course she does. Except, if any crime was committed, it was not a federal one. The FBI doesn’t investigate college kids getting drunk and stupid.
Essentially, Ramirez is claiming that she was at a party, they were playing a drinking game, she got drunk, and that she just knows, after thinking about it for days and days, that it was Brett Kavanaugh who exposed his penis to her and got her to touch it. She thinks.
Ramirez acknowledged that there are significant gaps in her memories of the evening, and that, if she ever presents her story to the F.B.I. or members of the Senate, she will inevitably be pressed on her motivation for coming forward after so many years, and questioned about her memory, given her drinking at the party.
The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party. A classmate of Ramirez’s, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaugh’s nomination, said that another student told him about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two. The classmate said that he is “one-hundred-per-cent sure†that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself. The classmate, like Ramirez, recalled that the party took place in a common room on the first floor in Entryway B of Lawrance Hall, during their freshman year. “I’ve known this all along,†he said. “It’s been on my mind all these years when his name came up. It was a big deal.†The story stayed with him, he said, because it was disturbing and seemed outside the bounds of typically acceptable behavior, even during heavy drinking at parties on campus. The classmate said that he had been shocked, but not necessarily surprised, because the social group to which Kavanaugh belonged often drank to excess. He recalled Kavanaugh as “relatively shy†until he drank, at which point he said that Kavanaugh could become “aggressive and even belligerent.â€
There are a bunch of people, most unnamed, who try and pull this, but they weren’t there. They don’t know. This is casting aspersions without evidence, which continues on. But, finally
One of the male classmates who Ramirez said egged on Kavanaugh denied any memory of the party. “I don’t think Brett would flash himself to Debbie, or anyone, for that matter,†he said. Asked why he thought Ramirez was making the allegation, he responded, “I have no idea.†The other male classmate who Ramirez said was involved in the incident commented, “I have zero recollection.â€
In a statement, two of those male classmates who Ramirez alleged were involved in the incident, the wife of a third male student she said was involved, and three other classmates, Dino Ewing, Louisa Garry, and Dan Murphy, disputed Ramirez’s account of events: “We were the people closest to Brett Kavanaugh during his first year at Yale. He was a roommate to some of us, and we spent a great deal of time with him, including in the dorm where this incident allegedly took place. Some of us were also friends with Debbie Ramirez during and after her time at Yale. We can say with confidence that if the incident Debbie alleges ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it—and we did not. The behavior she describes would be completely out of character for Brett. In addition, some of us knew Debbie long after Yale, and she never described this incident until Brett’s Supreme Court nomination was pending. Editors from the New Yorker contacted some of us because we are the people who would know the truth, and we told them that we never saw or heard about this.â€
The former friend who was married to the male classmate alleged to be involved, and who signed the statement, said of Ramirez, “This is a woman I was best friends with. We shared intimate details of our lives. And I was never told this story by her, or by anyone else. It never came up. I didn’t see it; I never heard of it happening.†She said she hadn’t spoken with Ramirez for about ten years, but that the two women had been close all through college, and Kavanaugh had remained part of what she called their “larger social circle.†In an initial conversation with The New Yorker, she suggested that Ramirez may have been politically motivated. Later, she said that she did not know if this was the case.
So, the people who knew Kavanaugh best, and many who were supposedly at this part, categorically deny the allegation. And Ramirez has zero evidence.
Oh, and she’s a registered Democrat. Surprise?
The left made a mistake with this Ramirez story. It isn't just how embarrassingly flimsy it is; she was inebriated; took six days to find memories; everyone denies it. But it strongly suggests the Ford delay demands were about cooking this up. Destroys credibility all around.
— Kimberley Strassel (@KimStrassel) September 24, 2018
These people are shameless, and, fortunately for Democrats, we aren’t the type of people who would do this to Democratic nominees when a Democrat has a chance to nominate people to SCOTUS, right? Maybe we should start playing politics as dirty as Democrats.
The very fact that Brett Kavanaugh is refusing to remove himself from the nomination process, and his statements denying the allegations, should tell you all you need to know, namely, that these are false allegations.
And let’s add this in regards to the NY Times article on same
Read this paragraph from the New York Times, then re-read it. https://t.co/6Qt4UnW4F2 pic.twitter.com/ngigW5au5u
— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) September 24, 2018
Confirm now.
Another spurious allegation about as meaningful as the little fella’s comments here at the Cove.
Bwahaa!!!
The Republicans could have given judge Merrick Garland a hearing, but didn’t, preferring to wait 8 months until the election. That’s pretty dirty politics, don’t you think.
Yet, Mitch McConnell (who knew of these allegations) has been pressing Kavanaugh’s confirmation at breakneck speed. Delaying the confirmation to investigate the serious allegations (and whether Kavanaugh committed perjury) is appropriate. Don’t the American people (most of whom distrust tRump) deserve this much?
The problem was that Mitch McConnell knew of Kavanaugh’s background but wanted to get him confirmed before the information was made public.
Thanks for another meaningful comment, little fella.
Can’t seem to help yourself, can ya little fella?
Bwahaa!
Back atcha, little man. Irking you makes it all worthwhile.
BTW, when are y’all gonna add something to the debate other than your predictable vitriol?
You know all this, how?
As for dirty politics, this is it. Jeffery would scream like a wounded baboon if the Rs tried this with Garland.
Machiavelli McConnell refused to even consider President Obama’s nominee, Merrick Garland. Therefore, no reason to examine his past.
When the Republicans heard of the second accusation, they tried to SPEED up the confirmation! That’s not how this is supposed to work.
Another woman has stepped forward…
https://mont.thesentinel.com/2018/09/24/supreme-court-nominee-kavanaugh-faces-more-allegations/
Mr Bodine is exactly right: the refusal of the Majority Leader to allow a confirmation vote on Judge Garland was a naked political power play; he learned his lesson from then-Majority Leader Tom Daschle, who refused to allow votes on President Bush’s judicial nominees.
And now, the Democrats are using almost certainly fabricated allegations against Judge Kavanaugh to try to delay his confirmation vote until after the election, in which they hope to regain control of the Senate. Thing is, the Republicans have the power to run rough-shod over the Democrats, and are too pussified to do it.
Senator McConnell needs to take some testosterone supplements and force a f(ornicating) vote; force Judge Kavanaugh’s confirmation, now, before the Democrats even have a chance to regain power.
McConnell could force a vote, but he’s concerned how the American people would view it come November. And there’s no guarantee that the GOP Senate majority would confirm Kavanaugh. The GOP/tRump have been running roughshod over America and Americans are not at all pleased – if tRump had deep-sixed the economy his approval would be single digits instead of 30%.
Supreme Court nominees?
Right now, only a quarter of the people buy this charade.
Where does he get the idea people live and die on what happens to Roe (which is dead anyway)?
PS McConnell can’t force anything until it’s voted out of committee, dimwit. Before talking about grown-up stuff, how’s about picking up a book and reading how the system actually works?
Based on? More Americans than not oppose Kavanaugh’s confirmation, partly ’cause tRump, partly ’cause attempted rape.
How dare you call Dana a dimwit just because he typed: Senator McConnell needs to take some testosterone supplements and force a f(ornicating) vote;
They weren’t Supreme Court nominees, no, but the policy was the same. Just like ending the filibuster on judicial nominees, this was a Democratic tactic first, and Senator McConnell, who told them that they’d come to regret it, pushed it to the logical extreme.
Republicans should exercise every last bit of power they have; you can be certain that the Democrats will do the same.
he’s had six background checks with nothing found. this is nothing but smears. liberalism is pure evil. there is no good liberal person. they have no morals. they only stand for killing babies.anyone who stands in the way of they’re god will be destroyed. since the accuser must be believed, I accuse feinstein of being a chinese spy, I accuse obomo of molesting little boys, I accuse hillary clinton of molesting little girls with janet reno. Now prove they didn’t do it.
Why didn’t they try to railroad the very conservative “pro-life” Neil Gorsuch? Was it because there were no allegations?
The 6 background checks occurred before the allegations of Kavanaugh’s black-out drinking and potential sexual assaults as a young man.
If you had a credible allegation against President Obama or Secretary Clinton, and they were nominated for the Supreme Court or similar, than you should be heard.
Again, this is not a criminal trial but a job interview.
If we were interviewing a candidate for a Director level job, and in checking professional references found a former supervisor who said the candidate was disciplined for inappropriate behavior with subordinates we would be unlikely to hire her. Even though the police were never involved.
Whom do you think is behind the allegations? The Democratic Party? George Soros? The Deep State? Random women?
Kavanaugh will give the committee calendars from his high school days proving he didn’t try to rape anyone.
And Con Men think he should be on the Supreme Court…
Cons: tRump can actually nominate a conservative jurist who will vote to overturn Roe v Wade, who DOESN’T have Kavanaugh’s increasingly heavy baggage.
Confirming Kavanaugh would be like electing a serial abuser president. Oh yeah, that…
The only Con Men (if you can call them men) are people like Jeffery who are paid minimum wage to spew this drivel.
Confirming Kavanaugh would be like electing a serial abuser president. Oh yeah, that…
clearly, he means all the Democrats.
We badger conservatives for free. It’s a conspiracy meme with Cons that there exists an army of typists paid by the Deep State/Soros to tell the truth on conservablogs.
But actually, telling the truth is its own reward.
I WAS paid minimum wage back in the 70s! But for washing dishes and loading trucks.
The fact you deny it tells me I’m right.
And you never dirtied your hands in your life.
Unless Mommy orders you to.
“The fact that Kavanaugh denies raping tells us we’re right.”
See the stupidity of your statement now? ‘If you deny it means it’s true’ is a common comeback in
moronCon Man circles. Never made sense, but Con Men often do not.We suspect we’ve worked as hard as you, including dirtying our hands over 50 years in the workplace – working on a loading dock, driving a delivery truck, janitorial work, dishwashing, collecting black walnuts for hulling, delivering papers, teaching, lab tech, hauling hay, milking, light residential construction – worked my way through college and grad school – and very fortunate since. You ever gavaged 100 rats at 3 AM as part of a drug study? Fun, huh?
Mr Bodine tells us the truth:
And it was at that level that he became Peter Principled!
You denigrate hard, honest work? And such nastiness!
It seems nastiness is all the Con Men here have left, as your edifice melts away.
You thought The Don would lead you to the promised land, but to do it, you’ll have to give him Putin-like powers. And although he’ll beat up women, Blacks, Hispanics, gays, Muslims and libs, he’ll take all your stuff and divide it amongst his cronies. But at least the “real” men, white, “tough”, “patriots” will have their privileged lives back. Until…
Do you think a majority of Americans will turn back the clock to you guys building a bridge to the 1800s? Good luck with that.
Except that there’s no evidence of “serial abusingâ€, which is why the libs are pressing so hard on it.
As many as four women have come forward as victims of Kavanaugh and there is evidence from others that he was a hard-drinking, hard-partying “frat” boy/ misogynist in high school and college.
Do Cons believe all the men who have come forward over the years accusing Catholic priests of abusing them as children decades ago? There’s hardly proof, just the ‘victims’ stories. If you believe them, why?
Those stories are being investigated, and have been investigated, both within the church hierarchy and among civilian law enforcement.
Was Judge Kavanaugh a “hard-drinking, hard-partying “frat†boy/ misogynist in high school and college?” I would certainly hope so! We need ‘hard-drinking, hard-partying “frat†boy/ misogynists’ on the Supreme Court, men who won’t vote for cases trying to advance Affirmative Action and feminist causes.
Well said. We need more real men in government. But man child Jeff will not understand.
You have to be a real man, or a conservative woman, to understand the need for real men. That pretty much excludes Mr Bodine.
What makes Kavanaugh a “real” man?
His crawling on top of a drunk girl?
Shaking his dick in a drunk girl’s face?
Or the fact that he denies it all?
The obvious but unspoken position of the 23%ers is that even if all this is true, so what? A drunk 17 yr old boy, got a bit handsy with a drunk 15 yr old girl. A drunk college boy waved his weiner in the face of a drunk college girl? A couple of drunk college boys lined up for a drunk college girl “pulling a train”. Big deal, right?
Your “real” man leader has a Little Lord Fauntleroy pouf hairdo, manicured nails, $5000 suits, servants, gold toilets and at least 5 kids by 3 baby mamas… he couldn’t change a tire, saw a board, put together a table, shoot a deer, pitch a tent, skin a squirrel, filet a fish, comfort a child, tie an improved clinch knot, cut down a tree, drive a stick shift, can’t take a punch, start a campfire, satisfy a woman without his valet’s checkbook or even make a fvcking sandwich. About all he can do is tweet and eat Big Macs.
This is your “real” man hero?
As opposed to yours who couldn’t beat a 10 year old at hoops?
4?
Funny how only 2 have come forward and each was more ridiculous than the other. But Jeffery loves clinging to false hope, like Mule Ears is going to deliver the goods on Trump.
Now that Rosie’s resigned, Mule Ears will be lucky he isn’t the one frog marched to the nearest prison shower.
Sticks and stones…
But yes, the 23%ers almost all crave more misogyny in government, to teach those women a lesson.
A real man takes responsibility for his actions, not just a bully. Do you think Donald Trump is one of your “real” men? LOL
The 23% are the ones like Jeffery who buy all this.
And I’m still waiting for somebody who takes responsibility for his actions among the Demos.
Any Kennedy
Willie
The Mocha Messiah
Gropin’ Joe
The list is endless.
Jeffery’s just Jealous because The Donald keeps his promises, bringing back jobs, cutting government, making the country safe.
The national debt is at an all time record. Obama’s job record was superior to tRump’s. The homicide rate is increasing.
Try again?
Funny how these things always happen at a party nobody remembers.
And don’t forget, next up is Stormy’s lawyer, Avenatti, who’s got some wild stories, but you better not mess with him because he makes noises like a Mafia enforcer.
Take the damned vote, already.
Kavanaugh is a lying scoundrel, but it may be best for the nation if the GOP confirms him, hastening their own death throes. Unless tRump/Russia/GOP can bugger the elections, the GOP is in trouble come November.
When the entire story is out, he can be impeached and tossed out.
And Avenatti has been right with his inside info. He’s the one that Kavanaugh fears.
Avenatti sent a list of leading questions to the committee about a potential Mark Judge/Kavanaugh led sex club that Dems will likely ask Kavanaugh, we assume under oath. Kavanaugh will have to 1) refuse to answer or 2) use the “don’t recollect” ploy or 3) deny and wonder if Avenatti has evidence. “I don’t have any memory of that particular incident”.
But Kavanaugh is slippery smart and has spent a week rehearsing with the White House and GOP.
Avenatti’s a joke. His new case is a bigger joke than Dr I Can’t Remember. And this clown is making threats about Kavanaugh’s high school days. Ever check his grades? I’ll bet you can, unlike the Mocha Messiah, and I’ll bet they’re the kind you don’t get partying hearty.
As for the elections, you must have really believed the Beast would win. This time, the Rs will increase their dominance in the Senate and the idiots you love are making sure they don’t take the House
The only think that shocks me about this whole circus is that Gloria Allred has not yet found the microphones and trotted out a poor stripper or a maid with allegations against Kavanaugh. I mean, there’s microphones! Where is she? What major Republican endeavor is complete without Gloria!
Listened to CBS News on the radio and they are reporting penis to the face details, as well as “news” about another woman in MD with sex allegations against him, if only she would come forward. No balance, no counterpoint, no discussion of lack of corroboration or questions about inebriation and and school age parties. No even-handed reported, just “Get Kavanaugh”. Just penis to the face and other rumors from CBS. See BS.
They should withdraw the moderate Kavanaugh and ram through a strict conservative judge ASAP. That’ll teach the demoncrats.
Will the dems ever learn?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-thiessen-democrats-powerless-supreme-court-nominee-0708-story.html
he’ll beat up women, Blacks, Hispanics, gays, Muslims and libs, he’ll take all your stuff and divide it amongst his cronies
I wasn’t aware his cronies included every American with a job, but I guess it makes sense. Yours are the ones who’d rather die than work.
But at least the “real†men, white, “toughâ€, “patriots†will have their privileged lives back. Until…
Do you think a majority of Americans will turn back the clock to you guys building a bridge to the 1800s? Good luck with that.
Until what? The fairy Antifa crowd comes out from behind their masks? You might as well wait for Mule Ears to deliver the goods.
And, if a bridge to the 19th century means law, morality, work, and pride in country, I’ll bet they will jump at the chance. And they’d run you back to Canada with all the others who turned their backs on their country.
For the good of the country they should just go ahead listen to this liar and then confirm Kavanaugh to the supreme court.
They wont. Collins and Murkowski the biggests RINOS in the history of the US senate will vote no but either way. VOTE NO. Vote him down and watch the flood of Voters turn up at the polls in NOVEMBER.
VOTE. For the good of both parties. Because whenever we set the bar of you are guilty if someone says you are then in the end we will all be in jail. A pissed off child has but to say her dad touched her….gone….20 years because there is no longer any need for proof only the accusation.
The GOP WILL do right by ALL Americans Democrats and Republicans by confirming Kavanaugh and ending this guilty until proven innocent BS being trotted out by the insane left.
Again, this is not a criminal trial, it’s a job interview.
The Senate GOP has to decide if Kavanaugh is fit for the job. Most Americans think he is not. The GOP can push him through at their peril.