You can already see the unhinged Trump Derangement Syndrome overreach in what Democrats plan to do come the next session of Congress with Democrats in control of the House
Democrats to Investigate Why Trump Wants U.S. Citizens Counted on 2020 Census
House Democrats are planning to “immediately†investigate the reason President Donald Trump wants American citizens counted on the upcoming 2020 Census.
In March, President Donald Trump’s administration announced they would put the citizenship question back on the census. It has not been included since 1950. For seven decades, all residents living in the United States have been counted on the census but have not been asked whether or not they are American citizens, making it impossible for the federal government to know the size of the citizen population versus the immigrant population.
Now, as Democrats are preparing to be the majority in the House after the midterm elections, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) — who will chair the House Oversight Committee — told Reuters he will investigate why the Trump administration has put the citizenship question back on the 2020 Census.
“There are certain things that mandate that we look at immediately,†Cummings said. “One of them is the census because that’s right around the corner.â€
Cummings said the House Oversight Committee must “figure out why [the citizenship question is] there, because to be very frank with you, we have been told some untruths.â€
It’s a very simple equation: people who are unlawfully present in the United States should not be counted for state apportionment nor for federal funding. You could even make an argument that those here on visas shouldn’t be counted either. If someone is here on a student visa or work visa, should they really be counted? They aren’t here more than temporarily. Those who aren’t citizens but are permanent residents or brought in as refugees should be counted, as we allowed them that status. Migrant workers should also not be counted.
Supposedly, this would change the makeup of the House as you’d be reducing the population of many coastal liberal enclaves where illegal aliens reside, and it would move to non-Democrat states. I seriously doubt it would change much, unless there are a lot more illegals than we’re being told, which is possible. It wasn’t that long ago, less than 20 years, that we were told there were over 20 million illegals. Suddenly, that number jumped down to 11 million or so. You also have them in Republican states like Texas, South Carolina, and North Carolina, as well as others.
But, do Democrats really want to do this? Hold hearings into a question that asks citizenship? That wants to exclude illegal aliens from representation? Where it would exclude members of, say, MS-13? This could be a big overreach.
from Article 1 Section 2:
and subsequently 14th Amendment:
Legislation and courts affirm that the Census can include the collection of other information besides “counting the whole number of persons in each State”.
TEACH: It’s a very simple equation: people who are unlawfully present in the United States should not be counted for state apportionment nor for federal funding.
Clearly, that proposal is unconstitutional and would require a Constitutional Amendment. Alternatively, an activist Supreme Court could reinterpret the Constitution. Good luck.
It is, Mr Darrow?
Do you propose counting the illegals as slaves? Because that is the Mother of all Freudian Slips.
The slaves were not regarded as here illegally.
The Indians were not regarded as citizens.
You’re (not your) incapable of embarrassment, right?
And you haven’t got a rebuttal, do you, Rastus?
The democrats who despise Billionaires and wall street spent 5.24 billion dollars on this years election. 1.75 billion came directly from billionaires and almost 2 billion came from wall street.
While the GOP might control these state houses that will be changing over the course of the next 4-6 years because of this mindless power struggle that sees the democrats compromise all their beliefs for power.
It is why the progressive far left is furious with the Dems right now and why so many are against Pelosi regaining the speakership. She is a corporatist. in bed with billionaires and wealthy wall street. She is mindboggling rich.
As a result of this incredible spending binge by the left who was apoplectic over citizens united ruling they have embraced corporations and billionaires in the chasing of the almighty dollar to gain power. So cheer up. Your side will own the nation in the next 6 years.
Sadly, Mr Bodine is correct: the illegals are part of the population to be counted. But the left doesn’t want the question, because it might cause benefits to be cut, and because just having the question on the ballot might lower the participation of illegals in the census, resulting in undercounts of population in California.
Thing is, it would also result in undercounts in Texas. The beneficiary states would be those with fewer illegals, states like Montana and the Dakotas, reliably red states.
Ms. Delaney is correct that many libs don’t want the question added, but because it may result in an undercount, and the Constitution appears to support counting all “whole persons”, including whole persons here illegally.
Cons desire an undercount and that’s why they want the question. It’s part of the long-term plan to stay in power, even as a minority.
The Dems may be on shaky ground though, since the courts and legislatures support gathering additional info with the Census.
https://www.census.gov/history/www/reference/privacy_confidentiality/title_13_us_code.html
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2007-title13/pdf/USCODE-2007-title13.pdf
FOX has a take on the genesis of the citizenship question, including this tidbit from the DOJ:
The issue seems worthy of at least a House look-see.
https://fox43.com/2018/11/19/supreme-court-to-hear-case-related-to-census-citizenship-question/
I’m sure the new House, if it can hold its majority, will want to look as enough if the Demos’ old constituencies are wising up to see them losing a lot of crucial races without wholesale and obvious vote fraud.
Did you know the Rs in FL got half the Hispanic vote?
Did you know Cruz, even though he was the real, if Republican, Hispanic, got 40% of the Hispanic vote?
Blacks and Hispanics are wising up and the Lefties are making war on white women for thinking for themselves.
PS illegals usually run from the census as if it were the plague.
For obvious reasons.
Didja know that nationwide the Dems got as many votes in this midterm as tRump got in 2016? It was the most votes by an off party in a midterm, by far.
The GOP will lose a large number of Senate seats in 2020, and of course a Dem will take the White House. Grim prospects for the GOP on the horizon.
Everybody look at jeff. He is saying stupid things to get attention
Well, Dave, his predictions on just about everything so far have been spot on…
Bwaahaa!!!
How many were legal?
The illegal ones don’t count.
And aggregate votes aren’t the issue. 458 Congressional seats were up for grabs. Like the Hildabeast and her phony victory in the popular vote, it’s individual races won, not aggregate votes that count. If you morons think that one has anybody scared, you’re as big a bunch of idiots are you were when you claimed 7 million fraudulent votes gave the Beast anything.
Didja know that not one single race where the democrat was ahead on election night suddenly discovered boxes of votes for the Republican, yet the reverse occurred twenty times? That’s called voter fraud Jethro. The odds of that occurring twenty times for democrats and not once for Republicans is astronomical.
Didja also notice how a few weeks ago a 300 million lottery tickets were sold in one day for a Superjackpot and within hours of the drawing lottery officials knew exactly how many tickets were sold, how many winning tickets were sold and where the winning tickets were sold right down to the state and exact store they were sold in? Yet four days after voting was closed officials couldn’t figure out how many people voted, how they voted, who they voted for and what the results of the election was?
The leftists in the democrat party have taken to heart Stalin’s old maxim that the winner of an election is determined by who counts the votes, not who casts them. Our elections are corrupt and that is the fault of the left exclusively.
The GOP controls most statehouses and the election systems there. In Florida, Georgia and Arizona, for example. Are you suggesting the GOP rigged the vote counting?
Are you advocating we have the same sort of election security we have for the lottery? N.B. – You can only vote once but can buy 1,000,000 lottery tickets if you choose.
I usually don’t reply to NPC’s such as you, Jethro but in this case I’ll make an exception.
The GOp may control the statehouses as yo say (I have not personally verified such) but the recounts in question are wholly democrats. Even in Florida. As I pointed out, twenty out of twenty elections “in doubt” were all where Republicans won. There seems not to be “questions” where democrats emerge victorious even by a slim margin (see Al Frankin).
Even an idiot can understand I am not “advocating we have the same sort of election security we have for the lottery”. I’m suggesting we have stricter security than they have for a lottery. We have seen in every election your remark about only voting once is not true. Google it. The fact that a person (is supposed to) vote once as opposed to buying “1,000,000” lottery tickets makes zero difference on the fact that they can’t seem to accurately count that “one” vote but can determine every bit of information from 300,000,000 lottery tickets. Perhaps voting should be held at lottery sales places instead of the current polling places.
I imagine if the democrats were counting the lottery tickets only democrats would win the lottery.
You aren’t going to be churlish enough to claim, like that moron, Andrea Mitchell (she was a jerk when she was a reporter in Philadelphia, too) that Brenda Snipes isn’t a Demo?
The vote fraud was going on in individual counties controlled by Democrats. Do you really want me to embarrass you and beat you over the head with it?
2010 U.S. Census Sample Form
Of course Obama was president.
NOTE: Please answer BOTH Question 8 about Hispanic origin and Question 9 about race. For this census, Hispanis origins are not races.
Is Person 1 of Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin?
A specific question about Hispanic origin. Why is that? The next question on the form then asks what is your race. Are Hispanics special that they get their own question under OBAMA?
Everyone including Obama wanted to know how many Hispanics are in this nation. This was for political reasons. Trumps census is to be used for political reasons.
Seriously what is the real purpose of a census if not political?