Not content to blame the Modern Warm period mostly/solely on Mankind, the Cult of Climastrology has now aimed its insanity at the Little Ice Age
https://twitter.com/spudseven/status/1091008418725355521
From the link
Colonisation of the Americas at the end of the 15th Century killed so many people, it disturbed Earth’s climate.
That’s the conclusion of scientists from University College London, UK.
The team says the disruption that followed European settlement led to a huge swathe of abandoned agricultural land being reclaimed by fast-growing trees and other vegetation.
This pulled down enough carbon dioxide (COâ‚‚) from the atmosphere to eventually chill the planet.
It’s a cooling period often referred to in the history books as the “Little Ice Age” – a time when winters in Europe would see the Thames in London regularly freeze over.
“The Great Dying of the Indigenous Peoples of the Americas led to the abandonment of enough cleared land that the resulting terrestrial carbon uptake had a detectable impact on both atmospheric COâ‚‚ and global surface air temperatures,” Alexander Koch and colleagues write in their paper published in Quaternary Science Reviews.
There’s absolutely nothing the CoC won’t do and say to uphold their cultish beliefs.
This looks like pseudo science in reverse. A belief system looking for something to prop it up. Desperation
— John Stretch (@johnstretch) January 31, 2019
OK, some European land reverted to forestation, but wouldn’t that be counterbalanced by American forests being cleared for agriculture?
Scientists (real ones) will tell you it was Salmonella
Here’s the actual article.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379118307261
They claim the population in the Americas dropped from about 60 million to 5 or 6 million.
Do you dispute that? Or do you dispute the drop in atmospheric CO2 from the ice cores? Or do you just dispute the conclusions?
Any estimate is a guess. Life expectancy among the Indians was only about 35.
Anybody with a brain who has actually done some reading (which lets out Kyria Jeffery) knows this because it was observed.
So I dispute all of it.
An indian population of 60 million? Ridiculous.
Actually the original population was at least 100,000 or maybe in the millions preColumbus. Shortly after contact with Europeans the population was reduced by 90%. The average age of death may have been higher as stone age cultures were better off.
The conclusions are horse shit and only drawn to get the article published in the broken peer review. CO2 does not cause that much of a climate alteration, one big lie. Yes I know of greenhouse gases. But if you believe this junk then the only answer for your religion is to eliminate a bunch of humans.
I thought it was a communist one world order and killer taxes.
Non sequitur. but Velda always tries to change the subject when she’s cornered.
So far they are 0/1000. Could it be that this is the first time Warmists are not lying?
My understanding of ‘the little ice-age’ is that it lasted about 500 years and started in the 1300s.
Long before 1492 when Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
Ooh, ooh, so, modern communism must have reduced CO2 by 13-18 ppm by killing 100M people in the mid-20th century. Did they cause the temperature drop between the 50’s and 80’s? Must have, right? Oh wait, climate scientists have homeogenized away that drop, so it doesn’t exist any more. Darn, this climate sciencey stuff is complexicated.
A big takeaway from this is that the west should stop feeding the Africans. Africa population doubled over the last 27 years. The left will insist this is from lack of birth control access. Because, they’re the left and its all about women’s rights. The real reason is mostly because western agricultural methods, technology, and food aid made food abundant to primitive cultures previously living by subsistence farming and gathering. A modest reduction in aid could therefore change populations by 100’s of millions, and by this warmist logic, save like 40ppm CO2. Save the planet.
This sh!t is ridiculous. The world population doubled between 1500 and 1800AD.
Don’t you know? No place had ever been colonized before this..
Highlights
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Combines multiple methods estimating pre-Columbian population numbers. ESTIMATING.
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Estimates European arrival in 1492 lead to 56 million deaths by 1600. ESTIMATING.
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Large population reduction led to reforestation of 55.8 Mha and 7.4 Pg C uptake.
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1610 atmospheric CO2 drop partly caused by indigenous depopulation of the Americas. Wait wouldn’t that have been caused by the reforestation which SINKS CO2?
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Humans contributed to Earth System changes before the Industrial Revolution. BULLSHIT.
I have to ask people. How many of you have actually seen a core sample? Analyzed it molecularly?
How many of you were hanging out in the 1500’s? This is another one of those brainwashing articles intended to prepare the world for ripping carbon fuels from their grasp and when that happens people will lose the internet, their Iphones and on demand TV and everything. No more Netflix and so on and so forth.
I can deal with it. I doubt the dumbshit millennial crowd can deal with it at all. Once it becomes apparent to them what has happened to them. Well.
Remember Their was NO HOLE IN THE OZONE..only DUPONT needing a reason to convince people to use its newly patented replacement of CFC’s.
Remember DDT killed far fewer people than not using it which killed 120 million people since its banning by the massive spread of malaria.
Remember despite Comrade Jethro above it is in fact a communist movement to destabilize the world using the internet and what better way than to stupididify your children. I mean their announced game plan of how to do it back in the 70’s is step by step unfolding before our eyes and COMRADE JETHRO tries to Saul Alinsky it from existence by denouncing anyone who mentions it as a conspiracy theorist.
I guess they pay him well after he got fired from his drug company where he took capitalist money, gouged his customers and then pounded the table after he found out his wealth was a result of capitalism. But of course he never gave it back……LOLOLOLOL…..
THE WORLD IS GONNA END IN 12 years and all the left thinks about is UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, LATE TERM ABORTION and who is on the SUPREME COURT and SJW’ing anyone who dares call you by a pronoun not of your choosing.
Why would anyone get the idea that you’re a conspiracy theorist? Maybe because you claim that 1970s communists started plotting the takeover of the world via global warming. Or that there was never a thinning in the Antarctic ozone layer. But much of what Con Men believe is untrue.
Although most nations banned the use of DDT for widespread agricultural use, thousands of tons of DDT are still used for disease vector control in tropical areas, e.g., India and African nations. You probably didn’t know that, did you? Much of what Con Men believe is untrue.
I’m a capitalist, but also support progressive taxation, universal healthcare, regulations on capitalism, environmental protections, regulated immigration, labor unions, worker protections… typical liberal stuff.
You ask if anyone here has seen a core sample or analyzed it molecularly. Have you seen an electron? Does that mean they don’t exist? Have you seen a molecule of oxygen (O2)? Were you around when the Earth formed some 4 billion years ago? How do you know it wasn’t formed 10,000 years ago?
As always,Cynthia gets it wrong.
Most figure the “Global Warming” stuff started about the time the Berlin Wall fell.
thousands of tons of DDT are still used for disease vector control in tropical areas, e.g., India and African nations.
You have evidence, Geraldine? Because malaria rates have been way up for years because DDT isn’t used.
I’m a capitalist
You and Armand Hammer.
How do you know it wasn’t formed 10,000 years ago?
OK, then how do you know it wasn’t formed when the Bible says, Minnetonka?
The world is gonna end in 12 years. But we want universal health care, abolish ICE and Free College for all. Oh by the way throw a trillion at the green new deal too.
Your position is a losing position. You rely upon a bunch of fraudsters who make claims that cannot be supported even by their own models. Do you know that the formula for figuring greenhouse effect is WRONG. It is based upon a flat earth derivative. Did you know that. Can you explain rationally why NOAA took down all their readings for 40 years and when they put them back up all the numbers had changed.
Can you explain why tidal gauges have not changed hardly at all. Can you explain why in some locations the oceans are rising and in other places they are not? Can you explain why Mann filed a law suit against someone for saying he should be in the state penn rather than from Penn State YET REFUSED TO TURN OVER TO THE COURT HIS DATA that led to the hockey stick?
Can you explain why all the principals refuse to turn over their data which led to the AGW scam? All of them? Can you explain emails from the principals saying heres how you rig graphs to show warming? Can you explain how these same men lamented their is no warming and its a shame?
Can you explain why all modeling does not take into account sunspot activity? Can you explain why the sun has no sunspots right now and we are getting hammered by the storm of the century? Can you explain why CFC’s which are 4 times heavier than ozone were supposedly found in the ozone layer. How can they be in the ozone layer if its missing? Can you explain how dupont just happened to be watching their patent on CFC’s expiring and had the next generation of NON CFC refrigerant ready to go if they could only find a legit reason to switch?
As for DDT. It was banned in the USA in 1972, and the use was banned worldwide by the Stockholm Convention in 2001. Three countries did not sign off on this accord. China, North Korea and India. Yes. Finally after nearly 120 million deaths Leaders in Africa and Asia started using DDT again. Can you explain why those three countries did not vote to ban DDT? It was because they understood their no scientific evidence pointing to the banning of DDT.
Why was ddt banned? Because it was a generic pesticide that everyone could use. What was the alternative? Patented drugs where the corporation could make billions worldwide.
To sum it up we believe AGW because a couple hundred scientists tell us it is so. When another couple hundred tell us it is bullshit. Can you explain that? Dont just pick this last sentence answer all my questions other than to call me a conspiracy theorist.