I think they mean that they need a GND to get fascism, but, you know, projection by the Cult of Climastrology over at Truthout
We Need a Green New Deal to Defeat Fascism and Reverse Inequality
In the debate about what strategy to adopt to combat climate change, the Green New Deal has quickly become the new buzzword on the left. Is it an insufficient social-democratic response to the present crisis, or is it, in fact, the only realistic project we have to save the planet? Robert Pollin, distinguished professor of economics and co-director of the Political Economy Research Institute at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, is a leading proponent of a green future and he shared his vision of the Green New Deal in the interview below, which appeared originally in Swedish in the left paper Flamman.
Jonas Elvander: You are one of the most well-known scientific spokespersons for a so-called “Green New Deal.†Can you explain what that means?
(Pollin spends a lot of time explaining, including the parts where Government is running things, banning things, controlling things)
Your proposal does not only not question growth as such, but it also does not question the capitalist version of growth. Do you therefore think it is fair to characterize the GND as a social-democratic or Keynesian alternative to Marxist or other anti-capitalist climate strategies? Or are these distinctions irrelevant?
I don’t agree with your characterization of my position. As I said above, I certainly do not advocate economic growth for its own sake. Rather, the Green New Deal offers the only approach to climate stabilization that can deliver an expansion of good job opportunities and rising mass living standards. In all the literature on de-growth, I have not seen a single credible presentation as to how you expand job opportunities and raise mass living standards under a de-growth scenario. The Green New Deal is therefore the only viable climate stabilization framework that can also reverse the rise in inequality and defeat both global neoliberalism and ascendant neo-fascism.
Um, OK? That is pretty much it. There are two mentions of fascism: the headline and in that paragraph. That’s it. There’s really no discussion of what he means by reversing it. And, really, it is his buddies in the Cult who are the neo-fascists. Or call them Modern Socialists, who are Progressives, who are what’s called “nice Fascists.” This doesn’t mean they are nice, it means they are doing all this “for your own good.” Funny that they never do this in their own lives, though, eh?
The left has almost a psychotic relationship with projection. Seems almost everything they believe, do, propose or call somebody else is exactly what or who they themselves are. And they do it with complete abandon and ignorance. Must be the drugs.
Trump 2020 Stop the left’s projection!
I still can’t tell if most leftists really believe the absurd things they say or if their party loyalty over rules their natural curiosity and skepticism. Obviously, younger leftists are true believers. It’s the hubris of Youth.
Both. Look at Pelosi Galore.
She’s stuck with people calling her a racist because she makes Occasional Cortex do a little work.
This is where the Russians were when Reagan was in. They really had stopped believing in Father Karl, but to give it up would mean the end of their dachas.
That’s exactly what it really is: Projection.
L’s attempts at sarcasm are a laugh.
As Zman wrote today at his blog:
” Everything about our modern education system, even the private schools, is bent toward brainwashing young people into the ideology of the state. It’s why standards have collapsed. They are making believers now, not scholars.”
Trump 2020 Let’s make scholars again!
It’s not even a State ideology because a healthy state needs strong institutions and citizens. This only empowers a very narrow group of activists at the expense of harming the state. The state is strongest when its citizens love, respect and support the state. The Left has made a cottage industry of hating your own nation (as long as your nation is America).
I don’t think it’s a cottage industry but rather a major policy of the left.
Anybody care for both?
Now that’s a slogan worth fighting for.
“We need a green new deal to defeat fascismâ€. The green new deal is fascism.
These people haven’t the slightest idea as to what Fascism really is. They think that anyone, who disagrees with them, are fascists. Fascism is a political/economic system in which the State heavily Controls and Regulates the “means of production”. Its the lowest order of Collectivism, followed by Socialism, and Marxist Socialism.
No, it’s the exact same thing. Lenin had state capitalism. Benny had state capitalism. Ernie Rohm thought Germany should have state capitalism.
The only difference behind the names is foreign policy. They all wanted to rule the world, they just had different ways of getting there.