This stuff may play well with the base during the primaries. How well will it play with the general public during the general election?
Bernie Sanders: ‘Health Care as a Human Right’ Applies to Illegal Aliens
Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) said during the second Democrat presidential debate on Tuesday that he would support giving health care to illegal immigrants.
“I happen to believe that when I talk about health care as a human right, that applies to all people in this country,†Sanders said when asked about the issue by CNN’s debate moderators.
The self-described Democratic socialist added that “under a Medicare for All, single-payer†system, the U.S. could afford such an expense.
Sanders has long supported the position, though nearly 60 percent of Americans oppose giving health care to illegal immigrants, according to a CNN poll from last month.
Later in the debate, Sanders also signaled he was opening to giving free college tuition to illegal immigrants.
Notice that he’s now mentioning “single payer” in the same breath as Medicare for all. Which it is. But Democrats have been reticent to say the truth. How will he pay for it? He thinks that Wall Street and big companies are just going to fork over the money and nothing weird will happen to the economy and pay structures.
Interestingly, all the candidates spent time bashing Obamacare, saying it’s not very good. Weird, right? But, hey, more fun from Bernie
“Medicare-for-all means expanding benefits to include dental care, eyeglasses and hearing aids. I know that because I wrote the damn bill. #DemDebate,” a tweet read.
His team also tweeted his disappointment with former Rep. John Delaney, D-Md., whom he claimed spouted falsehoods about hospitals closing under his health care plan.
The debate came just a day after the Mercatus Center released a study that estimated Sanders’ plan would cost $32.6 trillion over 10 years. By 2031, the costs would reportedly reach nearly 12.7 percent of GDP.
Hmm, so now it also includes dental, eye care, and hearing aids? It may see great, but, it will cause many providers to close shop due to too little reimbursement rates, all while waiting for the government to give them their money.
Then we have $3.2 trillion per year. Under the current budget (which is way too high at $4.76 trillion), they expect to see revenue at $3.65 trillion. So, how would everything else be funded? Unicorns don’t actually exist.
After watching the debates a little bit I am convinced that Elizabeth Warren will be one of three or four of the last candidates standing. She has this tough I cant believe someone would run for president and spend all their time talking about what we CANT DO vs what we can. That one line will send her far into the primaries. She has some horrible fiscal policies that has wall street trembling because remember Wall Street wants to endorse and support a moderate pro corporatist candidate such as Biden or many of the more moderates on that stage last night.
In the end however if a progressive is elected mods stay away. If a mod is elected progressives stay away. Perhaps its only 5 percent but its 5 percent they are not garnering in key states. 5 percent in deep blue states dont matter. 5 percent in FL, OH, MI, PA, WI, MN, NC, IA matter a whole lot.
Combine that with an uptick of 5-10 points by blacks and Hispanics for Trump and it spells disaster for the dems on the national stage. Locally perhaps they are competitive in 2020.
I think He runs against Biden with Warren as his VP. Its really calling the shot but this is the only way to keep the party together in 2020.
I am convinced that Elizabeth Warren will be one of three or four of the last candidates standing. She has this tough I cant believe someone would run for president and spend all their time talking about what we CANT DO vs what we can. That one line will send her far into the primaries.
The beginning of the sales pitch.
PS Don’t be surprised if there are a couple of late entries once the field thins out.
If he really wants Medicare for “ALL” then he shouldn’t limit it to illegal aliens who get here. He should convert the DoD to mobile hospitals and establish clinics all over the world. “Health care is a human right” as well as “getting someone else to pay for it”.
How do we pay for healthcare now? We spend some $3.5 trillion * on healtcare/yr now. Taxes, premiums (personal and employer), copays and deductibles. And we pay about twice as much per capita than other advanced nations.
The objective is to cut profits out of healthcare. The rich and corporations hate that.
Maybe we should “cut the profits” out of food, clothing, housing, transportation, energy, education and entertainment too? Oh, that’s been done to the detriment of 150 million souls (that you don’t believe in). Never mind.
Trump 2020 Keep the “profit” in goods and services so we can get the best we can pay for!
Let’s just cut the profit out of government.
We also get better care and, when you factor in sales, income, and gas taxes over there as part of the cost, we’re actually paying less.
We’ve been through this, so he just tells the same old lies.
The objective is to cut profits out of healthcare. The rich and corporations hate that.
No, the objective is to get the best care possible. A free market does that. Lefties hate that.
Almost. The objective is for individuals to make choices that best satisfy their own needs, balancing what they are willing to pay in exchange for what they want in return. Then providers of those things CHOOSE to either enter the market and provide those things, or open a factory to build happy meal toys in China instead.
This is how we buy cars, houses, food, I-Phones, education, vacations, rat poison, space exploration, national defense, fire departments and every other thing that has value to us individually and collectively. health care is no different.
The health care debate has never been about providing services economically. America does GREAT at this and always has. It has always been about how to pay for giving it away to people who are unwilling (the young and healthy) or unable to pay for it themselves, mostly the poor, old, and the chronically ill. people who demand more services than they can afford ALWAYS want someone else to pay for it. This applies to everything.
Ahh you are absolutely right Elwood. We do pay about 3.5 trillion per year in PREMIUMS, TAXES, CO-PAYS and Deductibles most of which is then spent on medical services.
but there is no free lunch. Right now my brother and his wife pays nearly 600.00 per month for medicare and a secondary insurance which covers about 40 percent of what is charged and the rest is written off.
Now if we start writing 60 percent of the healthcare costs in America off. Then every clinic, Hospital and medical device company is going out of business putting the government in charge of staffing and running all these for profit hospitals, clinics and devices companies. Then of course the government will demand those 50,000 dollar a year pills be reduced to 25.00 a month and they will just refuse to give their pills away and they too will go out of business leaving us with no incentive to create new medicines.
What you end up with is 3rd world medicine run by an inept government and AOC gets her wish. Everyone gets a government job with printed money until this country makes Venezuela look rich. All because you want illegals to flood into the country and have FREE HEALTHCARE.
SERIOUSLY? FREE. Nothing is free even in Europe where people pay serious premiums for healthcare, higher taxes and up to a 17 percent VAT TAX which taxes an apple about 20 times before it gets to your house. There is NOTHING FREE in this world but that is what the left is pitching to their looney toon base.
The USA has 5900 hospitals. Rounded up. Not including exclusively private hospitals such as the Betty ford clinic etc..etc.
2018-07-20 · In the United States most hospitals are privately funded, although there are “city hospitals†that tend to cater to the poor with no insurance, often as hospitals of last resort. Doctors and staff in these hospitals tend to be either idealistically driven to help, new, or have a previous problem that makes them less employable elsewhere.
In Denmark which everyone always talks about how great their healthcare system is. They have 69 hospitals in the entire country and about 18 private hospitals which cater to the rich who can pay for their own way.
As you can see the USA under Bernie Bros Plan would require the USA to then take over and staff nearly 6000 hospitals and that does not even count the 7800 private clinics called doctor in the boxes who could no longer function which take a huge load off doctors and hospitals with their bandaid care for boo boos.
In essence the health care costs for the USA would sky rocket out of control with janitors making 20 bucks an hour and clerks making 30 bucks per hour and doctors being paid 200k per year in line with the top doctors at the VA. Which incidently the VA is ALWAYS short of doctors and as a regular member of the VA I can personally vouch for this fact.
But of course the left who wants everyone to pay 70-90 percent income tax have no problems with this but I promise you that these same leftists will be standing at the doors of a shuttered hospital screaming and demanding their free healthcare while the government tells them to drive to another town because THIS HOSPITAL IS CLOSED.
often as hospitals of last resort.
If you’ve been shot, they take you to the closest one.