Well, now, Jane has had a pretty good life. Travel all around the world using fossil fueled transportation, eating well, dressing well, living in by mansions, but, now, she’s unhinged and ready to deny Everyone Else the benefits of a modern life
https://twitter.com/JWSpry/status/1195292876327944192
From the link
Activist actress Jane Fonda suggested in an interview with Vice TV that “climate criminals†who run the fossil fuel industries in America and elsewhere should be tried for “crimes against humanity and nature†just like some Nazis were tried (and hanged) at the Nuremberg Trials following World War II.
Fonda told the interviewer, Michael Moynihan, that climate change is an existential threat like no other we have faced as a species. She said we should halt all pumping of oil and other fossil fuels immediately and find the people working in those industries good-paying union jobs elsewhere.
“Humankind has never been in this situation, where there is literally a ticking time bomb over everything,†she said. “Everything is subsumed under that — health care, national security, the economy — it’s all going to go out the window if we can’t address the worsening of climate change.â€
Hmm, wasn’t it AOC who said that “climate delayers” were as bad as climate deniers? Jane would be a delayer. She was moving to Washington, D.C. for 4 months from California for the protests. How is she getting around? Fossil fueled vehicles? She also has a residence in NY.
This really isn’t anything new: climate cultists have long wanted to jail and even execute non-Believers. Green Jihad is linking to this article.
Better idea.
Try her for treason using the same show trials she wants applied to sane people.
And I want to burn people at the stake starting with her!
Vietnam? Another huge mistake that rightwing conservatives pushed us into just like our f’ed up Mud east misadventures
Whenever I hear Nam vets giving their opinions about their service I always ask “ how many tours did you do?â€
Less than 2% volunteered for a 2nd tour
That is how much they supported that war THEN
Ask Trump why he didn’t go then ask him why he never had surgery for his “boner spursâ€
Vietnam? Another huge mistake that rightwing conservatives pushed us into just like our f’ed up Mud east misadventures
Who knew that JFK who was the first to send troops to Viet Nam was rightwing conservative?
As for the mid-East, we know that you back the terrorists in the area.
Whenever I hear Nam vets giving their opinions about their service I always ask “ how many tours did you do?â€
The answer to how many tours would be “more than you, you basement dwelling, pizza roll eating troll.”
You walk up to a Viet Nam vet and try to denigrate their service, expect to get popped in the mouth.
Once again, all the left has is hate – even hating those who served when their country called.
Commenter typed: You walk up to a Viet Nam vet and try to denigrate their service, expect to get popped in the mouth
More violence advocated by the right. Once again, all the right has is hate.
Types the whimpering little sissybitch who lied about joining the Army during the Vietnam War.
Lolgfy Pnc. Jeffery Keene
You wanna see hate you sniveling little turd? How about the way you addressed my service?
“Elwood P. Dowd says:
May 9, 2019 at 8:26 am
Kye the A’Hole,
What makes you think you’re the arbiter of who is and is not a degenerate?
Some would find an old man repeatedly boasting about killing men, women and children in a far off land as being degenerate. Killing people in Vietnam was certainly not defending America, so why did you do it? Have you done anything of value?”
So thank YOU for your service.
I got the same response from you when I talked about the respectability of the word darky.
Something along the lines of, “Walk into a black neighborhood and try to say that” .
Hypocrite Hare shows his colors yet again.
AFTER JFK it was LBJ and McNamara who escalated the war. Nixon was elected in 68 and tried to end it like Trumps trying to end the middle east and he was fought tooth and nail by the democrats and the MIC.
@John. most people were drafted into the Vietnam war. Back in the day, it was actually rare for redeployment to Vietnam. The military changed drastically since Vietnam and as a result of Vietnam.
Today units deploy. Not individuals. So when you hear of someone going to Iraq or Afghanistan it’s usually his/her entire unit that is being deployed. My son in law is fixing to be sent back to the Middle East with his unit sometime next year. They already have orders.
During Vietnam, in the early days, entire units were deployed together. Later in the war units were fed reinforcements like WW2. So if you were with the 2nd armored, 1st air cav, 173rd airborne, 10th mountain division, 101st airborne, 82nd airborne, 196th light infantry, not to mention the 1st and 2nd marines along with naval and airforce assets, you went over as a unit, were fed reinforcements from the states and then the entire unit was reassigned back home together.
As for supporting the war in Vietnam. Only those that served would understand why the war was not popular and why few volunteered for a second and third tour.
As for Trump, he was one of the millions who sought deferments. They were pardoned. Except obviously by YOU!!
To Doom and Gloom:
@John. most people were drafted into the Vietnam war.</>
Stop promoting myths.
I served three tours in Vietnam. Was in the Army for 24 years. I rarely perpetuate myths when it comes to the military.
Again your stats are misleading. 70 percent of those killed were volunteers. Why is this a subjectively true statement? It was because the majority of the WAR’s major and bloodiest battles were fought before the draft was instituted in 69. After 69 the military went to great lengths with the Vietminization of the ARVN forces relieving the actual combat of US forces and putting it on the shoulders of ARVN units.
What you fail to understand is that those people who Volunteered were doing so to prevent themselves from being drafted. By volunteering they could avoid the dreaded 11b or 11c MOS which would put them beating bush in Vietnam by having a choice of assignments.
This is a common misconception if you just look at numbers without the facts behind those numbers.
Now to clarify. The draft actually started in 69 and prior to that, the members of the armed services were RA. Regular army or volunteers were parts of entire brigades, divisions, and squadrons shipped to Vietnam. This alone skews most of the statistics. From 1965 to 1969 100’s of thousands of regular army were sent to Vietnam. Hardly did they volunteer for serving in Vietnam but they did volunteer to serve in the US military.
When the draft started in 69 it was because the volunteer forces were collapsing and the Military needed live bodies.
The Navy, serving in carrier fleets off the coast to Vietnam were considered as having served in Vietnam. They were all Volunteers. There were very few draftees into the Navy at any time during the Vietnam war. Though the Navy did in fact draft.
The marines drafted something like 40k soldiers in 3-4 years prior to 69.
The Air force with Bases in Thailand, Philippines and Gaum were considered to have served in Vietnam. No draftees were used by the Air force. One of the reasons why the Airforce as so many Police or AP’s air police is the Air force is considered much more technical and without the proper scores, you would be shuffled of the AP positions to guard highly sensitive infrastructure including airbases and Missile silos.
The go-to method of avoiding being a ground pounder in Vietnam (IE Army or Marine)was to volunteer to join the Navy and the US Airforce in order to avoid becoming a grunt. This is why you have highly skewed numbers for RA vs US in Vietnam. By volunteering, you could choose 3 perferred MOS and be granted one. You could also choose 3 bases you wished to be assigned one of which was always Vietnam during this period.
I spent a year as a recruiter so much of this is first hand knowledge.
No myths from me, and if you simply google anything you never get the whole story, sir.
Misleading?
http://www.uswings.com/about-us-wings/vietnam-war-facts/
‘Nam was Jack Kennedy’s fiasco, along with Laos, the Berlin Wall, and the Cuban missile thing.
Whenever I hear Nam vets giving their opinions about their service I always ask “ how many tours did you do?â€
Less than 2% volunteered for a 2nd tour
So? How many did you do?
And let’s see some documentation on that 2%. The number of guys who volunteered to go for even one was higher than in WWII.
Bolshevik Bunny is hiding in the John these days, drunk as a skunk, so he’s feeling all tough.
That is how much they supported that war THEN
At least they went. All you did was call them baby killers. And most were from those working classes you claim to adore.
Ask Trump why he didn’t go then ask him why he never had surgery for his “boner spursâ€
T%ell us what your excuse was. Homosexuality?
Kennedy certainly stated it, but OBJ kept it going to make money. He owned a good portion of the helicopter business and Line Star ammunition.
Of course lying Johnny Retard is as full of shit as that whimpering little sissybitch who lied about joining the Army during the Vietnam war.
https://www.vva310.org/about-us/myths-of-the-vietnam-war
Lolgfy Johnny
I volunteered to be sent to Nam in 1968. I served three tours, was wounded twice and was awarded the Bronze Star. I am proud to have served with so many decent, brave Americans to and would do it again.
Communism and Islam are the enemy John, not Republicans and conservatives or Christians or white men.
TEACH is the head whimpering little sissybitch, and it’s getting worse as tRump circles the drain. His whimpering little sissybitch minions are getting more and more desperate with each day.
We’re not the ones whose impeachment circus becomes a bigger joke every day.
Every time Schiff For Brains brings up a new witless, their testimony is shot full of holes by those pesky facts.
Miss Fonda said:
If we halt all pumping of oil and fossil fuels “immediately,” how are all of these displaced workers going to get to those good-paying union jobs elsewhere? Virtually all vehicles on the road today use gasoline or diesel as fuel. The vast majority of trains and buses run on diesel fuel. And with 63% of our electric generation coming from fossil fuels, industry won’t be able to run.
The left like to think that they are somehow smarter than us rubes from the flyover states, but
global warmingclimate change has turned them all into gibbering idiots. Reducing pollution, all pollution, not just CO2, is certainly a wise idea, but these days the left have gone absolutely bonkers, saying stuff that tells us that they simply don’t think things through.Information presented by SFC (Ret) David Hack.
I suppose if its on the internet it must be true.
Yep. That’s how I felt about your post until I checked the facts… which you seemed to ignore.
http://www.tom.pilsch.com/Vietnam.html
Jeffery
ROLCON
Sibley
COVFEFE
Jeffery L Keene
Liar, sexual deviant, bully, and gutless wonder.
You never learn, do you, Dutcher?
Let me try to help you understand this.
Leading up to 1969 almost all troops sent to Vietnam went with their unit. These soldiers were VOLUNTEERS. They joined the military they were not drafted.
A vast majority of casualties occured between 1960-1969. 45k troops were killed before the draft started. There was a force reduction starting in late 1969 with the US military continuing to turn over theater operations to the Army of the Republic of Vietnam ARVN.
As a result the numbers are misleading. Additionally part of the forces considered to have served in Vietnam were stationed in Thailand, Phillipines, Guam as well as naval task forces off the coast of Vietnam. The navy had just a few draftees and the Air Force had none to my knowledge yet they were all considered to be part of the theater of operations and thus volunteers.
Its actually simple. People were not reenlisting at a rather dramatic number to the point a draft was initiated in order to keep forces at full strength. All those volunteers you speak volunteered when Vietnam was but a blip before it quickly escalated.
If you joined for 3 or 4 years in 1964 there were only 25k troops in Vietnam and basically in light combat and advisor roles. By the time you finished your 4th year you might have actually spent two tours in Vietnam and by 1968 there were almost 500k troops in country with the battles becoming fierce and deaths rising dramtically.
My point is that simple numbers can be very deceptive and if you want to continue to believe that most Vietnam vets volunteered for Vietnam then by all means go for it. Placed within the context of the actual war, those same volunteers were certainly reluctant having joined when Vietnam was but a blip on the screen and not a war anyone was talking about until it quickly escalated out of control for most enlistees in the matter of a single enlistment for a typical Volunteer.
most people were drafted into the Vietnam war
You actually posted that.
That is incorrect by any metric, simple or complex.
Various valid citatons were provided.
You chose to ignore them.
Your personal comments and anecdotal “evidence” are what is misleading.
Read McNamaras Folley. Will explain the drafting and volunteering of retarded people that LBJ authorized to make things look better.
John, Jeff,
Both of you are very repulsive, ignorant people. You need to read, not comment.
You never learn, do you, Dutcher?
I guess not. You always hit a new high in low.