Remember, though, this is all caused by Hotcoldwetdry, not arson, according to Warmists
Firefighter charged with starting 17 blazes in Australia while on bail 'for serious sex offences' tracked by ankle tag https://t.co/woq2zVT6OC
— Jemma (@Donadeedooda) January 10, 2020
So, definitely climate change, right?
(UK Sun) AN AUSTRALIAN firefighter has been charged with deliberately starting 17 wildfires while on bail for alleged sex offences.
The unnamed man – who was working with the Darwin River unit in the country’s Northern Territory – was linked to 17 blazes by cops investigating suspicious bushfires.
The man, 27, was linked to the fires thanks to an ankle tag he was wearing as part of bail conditions for alleged sex offences.
Australian detectives investigating suspicious bushfires, as part of Operation Paringa, arrested the man following a raid on his house on Tuesday.
His lawyers argued all the evidence was circumstantial, and he has a girlfriend!
But on Wednesday, a judge refused his application for bail after receiving 33 pages of alleged facts compiled from data collected by his tracking device.
Funny how so many people have been arrested for starting the fires when they were supposed to be caused by ‘climate change’, eh? Of course, the Warmists are starting to now say that ‘climate change’ has created the conditions for bad fires and made them worse.
The climate does not cause forest fires. They are caused by mis-management (silly green-think), lightning, campfires, cigarettes, and arsonists, the latter being predominant lately. What is wrong with these people?? https://t.co/7JCrqZuBDO
— Patrick Moore (@EcoSenseNow) January 10, 2020
The obvious question is: why was someone charged with sex offenses free on bail in the first place?
Patrick Moore ?
I remember him Teach
He is always claiming to be. “Founder†of Greenpeace even though he never even joined that organization until one year after it was founded
Teach the biggest problem with the brush fires in Australia is not the number but the severity
Any bets as to whether the firefighter/arsonist was a rightwing smoker ?
Not so, John. He was a founding member until becoming inconvenient for the cult, and he was removed from subsequent photos. It’s the scientific method.. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/25/greenpeace-disappears-a-founder-much-like-the-commissar-vanishes-in-soviet-russia/
Greenpeace has on record his application to be a crew member on one of their boats dated 1971
Greenpeace was founded in 1970
You can easily check Wikipedia Patrick Moore
Watts up. Is incorrect
Again
While on wiki you might also read or look on YouTube for while being interjj bu used on the safety of Roundup weed killer he offered to drink a glass to show how safe it is
Unfortunately when offered that chance
He refused
He is a grifter
Applying to be a crew member doesn’t mean he wasn’t already a member.
Try again.
Sorry, John. From 1970-he was a founder
http://web.archive.org/web/20021119050900/http://www.greenpeace.org.au/aboutus/founders.html
Here’s what Greenpeace says on the matter:
Patrick Moore Did Not Found Greenpeace
Patrick Moore frequently portrays himself as a founder or co-founder of Greenpeace, and many news outlets have repeated this characterization. Although Mr. Moore played a significant role in Greenpeace Canada for several years, he did not found Greenpeace. Phil Cote, Irving Stowe, and Jim Bohlen founded Greenpeace in 1970. Patrick Moore applied for a berth on the Phyllis Cormack in March, 1971 after the organization had already been in existence for a year. A copy of his application letter and Greenpeace’s response are available here (PDF).
https://www.greenpeace.org/archive-international/Global/usa/binaries/2008/12/patrick-moore-s-application-le.pdf
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/greenpeace-statement-on-patric/
Dr. Moore was President of Greenpeace Canada between 1977 and 1986 and as Director of Greenpeace International.
It’s fair to say that Dr. Moore was involved early with Greenpeace and was an environmentalist. Around 1990 Moore made an about face and started collecting money from mining, fishing, logging, nuclear energy and related industries to lobby and advise. He lists himself as “chairman and chief scientist” of Greenspirit Strategies Ltd., a PR company that “work with many leading organizations in forestry, biotechnology, aquaculture and plastics, developing solutions in the areas of natural resources, biodiversity, energy and climate change.
Moore is entitled to make a living, but let’s not conflate his early work with Greenpeace with his current anti-environmental stance.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.” — Upton Sinclair
Greenpeace has on record his application to be a crew member on one of their boats dated 1971
Greenpeace was founded in 1970
You can easily check Wikipedia Patrick Moore
Watts up. Is incorrect
Again
While on wiki you might also read or look on YouTube for while being interjj bu used on the safety of Roundup weed killer he offered to drink a glass to show how safe it is
Unfortunately when offered that chance
He refused
He is a grifter
Moore was an early member but not one of the 3 founders
The only grifter here is you.
5 founders, John., and Moore one of them. See my link
“Here’s what Greenpeace has to say on the matter..†. Well of course-they’re the ones who cropped him out of the later photos. What do you think they’re going to say? As the link shows, there were 5 founding members, with their names listed. And the early photos show 5 members, the later photo-shopped ones show 3 members.
Notice the heading at the top-it’s from…..Greenpeace
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/greenpeace_founders_dec16_2005.png?resize=640%2C628
Even Fake News conceded he was one of the founders.
No Lefty smokers?
I can think of one without even trying.
23 dead and the number might grow. Loss wildlife in the 100s of millions and 1000s of acres in lost habitat. Drop this scumbag in the middle of the fire armed only with his birthday suit and a pickax.
TEACH re-builds his straw man. Climate scientists and anti-deniers do not claim that global warming causes wild fires by spontaneous combustion, but that global warming (droughts, heat waves, wind storms) increase the probability that fires will be more severe and more frequent.
We know, we know… the logic-impaired (The “Is Not!”-ers) here will argue that TEACH isn’t using the informal fallacy of a straw man, i.e., refuting an argument that no one is making. But they’re wrong now as before.
It’s no surprise that global warming ISN’T causing fields to suddenly burst into flames, is it? It still takes a spark, an ember, PG&E, an arsonist, lightning or a cigarette to start. It also takes tinder. Toss your stogie into wet grass and see what happens. Now toss it into a field of dried out fescue. See the difference?
TEACH re-builds his straw man. Climate scientists and anti-deniers do not claim that global warming causes wild fires by spontaneous combustion, but that global warming (droughts, heat waves, wind storms) increase the probability that fires will be more severe and more frequent.
The straw man is all Jeffery’s; the enviro-friendly methods used to maintain old growth is what causes the fires. Too much fuel in the summer.
We know, we know… the logic-impaired (The “Is Not!â€-ers) here will argue that TEACH isn’t using the informal fallacy of a straw man, i.e., refuting an argument that no one is making. But they’re wrong now as before.
no, you are.
It’s no surprise that global warming ISN’T causing fields to suddenly burst into flames, is it? It still takes a spark, an ember, PG&E, an arsonist, lightning or a cigarette to start. It also takes tinder. Toss your stogie into wet grass and see what happens. Now toss it into a field of dried out fescue. See the difference?
Ever think (that’s a hot one (I know…) right there) cutting back the fescue and burning off all the dry dead brush might help?
Sibley in incapable of learning.
No, that’s your side.
Their motto is, continuously, “We just didn’t spend enough…”.
At the beginning of the year, a strong La Niña event was producing heavy rain over eastern Australia………..1911 Australia.
Then La Nino hit and the droughts began in Australia.
However, elsewhere exceptionally dry conditions continued until a series of low-pressure systems in June and July provided record-breaking rainfalls for that time of year in inland Queensland and New South Wales. 1912 Australia.
@Elwood. Once again Australia was experiencing La NINA and EL NINO events back in 1911-1916 which caused alternating Flooding and Droughts.
but of course we know the co2 during this time was what? 302 PPM. In 1800 it was 280 PPM.
So explain please how CO2 is responsible for all the wildfires and droughts the world has experienced in the last 1000 years vs the last 30 or 40?
In other words, you smugly point to scientific facts which in fact is so full of holes as to be a pig with lipstick.
Once you get some real facts the deniers will begin believing. Until then why worry about the few of us who are deniers. According to you 97 percent of the world believe. So fix the problem. You don’t need us. We have no say.
Except for the fact that the droughts aren’t any worse and neither is the heat. And a warmer atmosphere was supposed to be a wetter atmosphere. Science. http://joannenova.com.au/2019/12/climate-change-and-bushfires-more-rain-the-same-droughts-no-trend-no-science/
No
A warmer atmosphere has the ability to hold more moisture
It does not necessarily mean. That it had more moisture
Think of AZ in the summer
Dry heat:wet heat
Read my first link on what Wikipedia says “from 2005 till it’s alteration in 2007, Greenpeace had Moore as one its founding membersâ€.
Dry heat, wet heat. And what’s the difference between a mid-west humid summer night and a desert dry summer night? The desert cools off very rapidly because of the absence of the main green house gas-water vapor. The CO2 doesn’t keep it warm
John, Jeff,
Yes the fires in Australia are more severe than normal. But there is no evidence that the religion of climate change would have an influence. Instead, the reason is apparent. The government has a very intrusive program of dining or imprisoning landowners for trying to clear fire breaks or maintain their land in a prudent manner. This more material to burn.
Australia is mostly a desert. So to say that it is excessively dry is not logical. In fact, the fact that there is material to burn actually goes against climate change. So why don’t you show how climate change is starting the fires. Does the climate God reach down and start fires like the burning Bush in the Bible.
The fact is that the climate religion is coming apart. And is a total hoax. If you want to reduce CO2, why don’t you plant trees? But the only answer is taxes and global communistic government. And you have not demonstrated how this would have any influence.
John, can we trust anything you say after being in prison?
Here’s what Greenpeace says on the matter:
Patrick Moore Did Not Found Greenpeace
Patrick Moore frequently portrays himself as a founder or co-founder of Greenpeace, and many news outlets have repeated this characterization. Although Mr. Moore played a significant role in Greenpeace Canada for several years, he did not found Greenpeace. Phil Cote, Irving Stowe, and Jim Bohlen founded Greenpeace in 1970. Patrick Moore applied for a berth on the Phyllis Cormack in March, 1971 after the organization had already been in existence for a year. A copy of his application letter and Greenpeace’s response are available here (PDF).
https://www.greenpeace.org/archive-international/Global/usa/binaries/2008/12/patrick-moore-s-application-le.pdf
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/greenpeace-statement-on-patric/
Dr. Moore was President of Greenpeace Canada between 1977 and 1986 and as Director of Greenpeace International.
It’s fair to say that Dr. Moore was involved early with Greenpeace and was an environmentalist. Around 1990 Moore made an about face and started collecting money from mining, fishing, logging, nuclear energy and related industries to lobby and advise. He lists himself as “chairman and chief scientist†of Greenspirit Strategies Ltd., a PR company that “work with many leading organizations in forestry, biotechnology, aquaculture and plastics, developing solutions in the areas of natural resources, biodiversity, energy and climate change.
Moore is entitled to make a living, but let’s not conflate his early work with Greenpeace with his current anti-environmental stance.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.†— Upton Sinclair
If a guy who even Fake News says he founded the outfit breaks with said outfit over ideology, said outfit just might try to renounce him because to do otherwise might make them look like the lunatics they are.
Are you quoting Sinclair (which I’m sure someone provided for you) to explain your own willful ignorance?
Sounds like it.
The pattern is clear. If it prevents even one fire, the Aussie government must do it. They need to ban firemen.