Democrats say they want witnesses, because they failed to do their job properly in forcing their ultra-partisan impeachment theater through the House too fast. They primarily called witnesses they thought would hurt Trump (and were surprised when they didn’t). So, now
Josh Hawley Plans to Force Subpoena Votes for Bidens, Schiff, ‘Whistleblower’
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) revealed Saturday he has drafted motions to subpoena former Vice President Joe Biden, his youngest son Hunter Biden, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA), and the so-called “whistleblower.â€
Hawley will attempt to force a vote on the subpoenas if the Senate approves additional witnesses and documents as part of the upper chamber’s trial.
Politico reported:
Hawley would also seek communications among the whistleblower, Schiff and his staff, transcripts of Atkinson’s congressional testimony, communications between the House impeachment managers and Democratic presidential candidates as well as documents related to Biden’s drive to oust former Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin.
Senator Lindsay Graham is against bringing in Hunter, as it would extend the trial theater, and I agree, but, because we do not really need to hear from Hunter. We do need to hear from Joe. Show the video of him extorting Ukraine, saying aid would be withheld unless the prosecutor investigating Burisma was fired. He bragged about it. Make him explain it. Ask if Obama actually approved of it. Heck, let’s nicely ask Shokin to appear.
Most certainly bring in the whistleblower, as what they actually heard. What’s that? They never witnessed anything first hand? Huh. And Schiff, let’s hear about the communications with the whistleblower. Let’s hear from the people who suddenly changed whistleblower standards to include 3rd and 4th hand material a month before the whistleblower went public.
Democrats had their turn. Now the GOP has theirs.
William Teach: We do need to hear from Joe. Show the video of him extorting Ukraine, saying aid would be withheld unless the prosecutor investigating Burisma was fired. He bragged about it.
What would be the relevance to the articles of impeachment?
William Teach: Let’s hear from the people who suddenly changed whistleblower standards to include 3rd and 4th hand material a month before the whistleblower went public.
The standard didn’t change as it is part of the whistleblower statute.
What would be the relevance to the articles of impeachment?
What is the relevance of any of this. The senate might very well remove Trump. A new fox poll out shows that 50 percent of Americans want him removed.
If that is so then Trump is toast in 2020. If the stupid voter is not smart enough to learn the facts of the left, then this country deserves Bernie Sanders and communism.
Led by YOU and you pathetic defense of leftists who want endless wars while proclaiming publicly they are anti-war.
I am personally sick of this shit. Impeach Trump. Impeach Pence. Vote ALL the republicans out of office.
Take our guns, Give us medicare for all. Give us free college. Forgive Debt. Raise tax on the billionaires to 97 percent. Stop producing Oil and gas. Turn of the nuclear power plants. Get rid of the electoral college. Suspend the 1st amendment. Force us all to pay a 25 percent VAT and 50 percent income tax. Force us, force us, force us.
Got it. America has now succumbed to the communist Russia and China that the left pretends Trump is in bed with.
Go for it. Elect and whole bushel basket of communists to run our country. Then report back to me Zach in 10 years on how that has worked out for everyone.
And of course all these dumbshit MIC and MSM idiots who are enabling this to happen will be crying in the poor house as they all are out a job and are going WTF!!!! HAHAH. It serves America right.
Chumpchange: What is the relevance of any of this.
The House impeached the president. That requires a trial in the Senate.
You didn’t answer the question.
WHY SHOULD >>>>>>JURORS<<<<<< CALL WITNESSES?????
A trial is the HOUSE presenting their case. I cant help it your case is anemic at worse and pathetic at best.
You have presented NO EVIDENCE. You have presented a bitch ton of OPINION, Suspicion, Belief, I think, surely, Obviously.
But not ONE SHRED of evidence. Trump fired Vonavich 1 year before BIDEN declared for office. Trump was investigating corruption in the UKRAINE 1 year before anyone declared for president.
YOU HAVE NOTHING. Thats the answer to your question. Parnas the guy now NOT ON ANYONES LIST to call suddenly just exonerated Trump with his dated recordings showing this to be so.
You guys are terrified Trump will win in 2020. So you are just making stuff up. Thats the answer to your question and again. WHY SHOULD JURORS CALL WITNESSES? That should have been the House’s obligation. They investigated Trump, refused to go to the courts to get these witnesses to testify because they knew they would lose because Bolton is NATIONAL SECURITY as is Mulvaney.
You don’t want to impeach him. You want to put the GOP on record as voting to acquit and then that gives you a good shot at the Senate in 2020 and a better chance in defeating Trump in 2020.
Your strategy is clear. You work for Putin because he wants to stop all these fuking sanctions TRUMP has put on his country.
Chumpchange: A trial is the HOUSE presenting their case.
Calling witnesses and subpoenaing documents are part of the trial process.
Chumpchange: Trump fired Vonavich 1 year before BIDEN declared for office.
Biden declared for president April 25, 2019.
Yovanovitch was recalled as ambassador to Ukraine May 20, 2019.
Apparently, you reached your conclusion based on faulty information. In any case, you never answered the question. What would be the relevance of calling Joe Biden as a witness have to the articles of impeachment?
Better yet, why not hear from those actually relevant to the plot, e.g., Bolton, Mulvaney, Giuliani, Blair and Duffey. Actually, since he has nothing to hide, why not subpoena DJ Trump to testify under oath? He ran the thing. He’s willing to give his opinion by tweet, why not under oath?
The witnesses in the House investigation DID hurt trump. Along with the partial transcript of the July call, the witnesses outlined the scheme.
The whistleblower demand is a red herring. His or her tip is now moot, since Trump, his chief of staff and witnesses on the call confirmed the initial complaint.
The Trump “defense” and the GOP (especially the despicable liar Josh Hawley (R-MO)) want to do anything to distract from the articles of impeachment.
Better yet, why not hear from those actually relevant to the plot, e.g., Bolton, Mulvaney, Giuliani, Blair and Duffey. Actually, since he has nothing to hide, why not subpoena DJ Trump to testify under oath? He ran the thing. He’s willing to give his opinion by tweet, why not under oath?
National security is a pretty potent reason, but, since you care nothing about it, let’s just go with the fact the Demos have yet to subpoena any of those people (requests don’t count) or come up with a single witness who saw it firsthand.
The witnesses in the House investigation DID hurt trump. Along with the partial transcript of the July call, the witnesses outlined the scheme.
They did?
Fourthhand testimony hurt him? How so, since it’s not admissible? And most people think the transcript cleared him.
You lose again.
The whistleblower demand is a red herring. His or her tip is now moot, since Trump, his chief of staff and witnesses on the call confirmed the initial complaint.
Only because the whistleblower was one of the plotters against Trump and could bring down the Democrat party.
The Trump “defense†and the GOP (especially the despicable liar Josh Hawley (R-MO)) want to do anything to distract from the articles of impeachment.
Which have no standing since they specify no crime.
formwiz: National security is a pretty potent reason
National security officials testify all the time, both in open and closed sessions. Nor can a claim of national security be used to conceal wrongdoing from Congress.
Better yet, why not hear from those actually relevant to the plot, e.g., Bolton, Mulvaney, Giuliani, Blair and Duffey. Actually, since he has nothing to hide, why not subpoena DJ Trump to testify under oath? He ran the thing. He’s willing to give his opinion by tweet, why not under oath?
The witnesses in the House investigation DID hurt trump. Along with the partial transcript of the July call, the witnesses outlined the scheme.
The whistleblower demand is a red herring. His or her tip is now moot, since Trump, his chief of staff and witnesses on the call confirmed the initial complaint.
The Trump “defense” and the GOP (especially the despicable liar Josh Hawley (R-MO)) want to do anything to distract from the articles of impeachment.
Absolutely have the JURORS start calling witnesses because the communist, inept House members cant do any thing right. They raced this thru the house so they could impeach trump before the election and NOT interfere with the campaigning.
By all means lets call a 1000 witnesses. I want to hear from the bellboy at Mara Largo and the grounds keeper in Trump Tower. Lets hear from Trumps chef and maid. Let us also hear from a 1000 Ukrainians and 10,000 leftists.
I think Michael Moore has something relevant about this case.
Certainly Elwood would add a substantial amount of facts to impeaching Trump.
Lets hear from them all and the GOP should not call one witness I mean like Zach says, what does it have to do with obstruction of congress.
1000’s of witnesses Elwood. Lets make this trial last 5 years and by the time its all over the MSM, MIC, Deep state will have all the chaff burned down and all the GOP out of office so you can have your communist fuking nation.
Go for it Elwood. I am sure you are high up in the party apparatchi so you will have a cush job when the constitution is suspended.
Call a billion witnesses. Or better yet, lets just have a poll of 100,000 democrats and abide by the outcome. Impeach or not? While were at it lets impeach Pence too. After all he knows trump. And don Jr and Melania and Ivanka should all go to jail for something. Anything.
Everyone ever associated with Trump should be tried and hanged. It is after all the new American lefts way of running things.
Chump,
We understand your frustration with the facts not being in Trump’s favor, but there’s a lot of reasonable room between 0 witnesses and 1,000,000,000 witnesses. N.B. – Trump has been impeached.
While the GOP likely believes the Mara Largo (sic) bellboy or the starter at the course would be a pleasant diversion, as would Stormy Daniels, it’s hard to see what relevance they have to trump’s misdeeds as outlined in the articles of impeachment.
So what would be the harm in a few witnesses with direct knowledge of the scheme?
We understand your frustration with the facts not being in Trump’s favor, but there’s a lot of reasonable room between 0 witnesses and 1,000,000,000 witnesses. N.B. – Trump has been impeached.
A million? How come Schiff For Brains and Fatty Nadless called so few?
And he will cease to be impeached if the charges are dismissed or he’s acquitted.
While the GOP likely believes the Mara Largo (sic) bellboy or the starter at the course would be a pleasant diversion, as would Stormy Daniels, it’s hard to see what relevance they have to trump’s misdeeds as outlined in the articles of impeachment
Because the articles of impeachment are irrelevant. No crime. Only a lot of Lefty whining.
So what would be the harm in a few witnesses with direct knowledge of the scheme?
When you find one, let us know.