Here’s Excitable AOC
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1232772838861484037
Yet, she is still not demanding that it be passed. I wonder why?
Report: Green New Deal Will Impose A $75,000 Per Year Cost On Swing-State Households
Americans in nearly a dozen swing states could expect to spend roughly $75,000 per year if the Green New Deal is ever implemented, according to a report Wednesday from a conservative nonprofit group.
The Green New Deal would cost households an average of between $74,287 and $76,683 in Colorado, Michigan and Pennsylvania, among others, a report from the Competitive Enterprise Institute noted. CEI worked with Power the Future and the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty on the report. (snip)
“Our analysis shows that, if implemented, the Green New Deal would cost for American households at least tens of thousands of dollars annually on a permanent basis,†Lassman said.
“Perhaps that’s why exactly zero Senate Democrats, including the resolution’s 12 co-sponsors, voted for the Green New Deal when they had the chance,†he concluded.
In my business, we use a training program which also talks about cutting metrics in half, such as, “returning customers close at 63%. Don’t believe that? Cut it in half. 31.5% is still better than the closing percent of a brand new customer.” Of course, cutting that $75k in half is still not good
Other reports have made similar findings. The Green New Deal could cost up to $93 trillion over 10 years, a report from right-leaning group American Action Forum (AAF) noted in 2019.
All told, that amounts to $36,100 to $65,300 per American household per year to meet the lofty proposal’s goals, AAF reported in February 2019. The plan initially intended on producing widespread high-speed rail, guaranteed jobs, universal health care and refurbishing every building in the country.
Heck, cut the $36,100 in half. Are you excited to pay that? How about you, Mr./Ms. Warmist? You good with that?
And why are you not demanding a vote, AOC?
High cost?
No results?
Sounds like Liberal Logic (TM) to me!
You should Always be most skeptical of the data you want to believe
Are you ?
Are you?
Right wing propagandists should maybe check their arithmetic. The median household income is about $63,000/yr.
Yes it is Elwood, thanks to Trumps economic policy and trade policy but take away even $20,000 for bullshit “science” then where are we?
Trump 2020 Keep the median income rising and the GND just a bad dream!
Check the Dow lately ?
It hadn’t gone up in 2 years
John, perhaps you’re not aware but since I retired I’ve been a Level Two short-term trader so I am well aware of the DOW since I trade daily. You apparently aren’t if you think the DOW hasn’t gone up in two years.
The Dow is not people’s income.
And it was 29,600 before the latest scare hit.
Have you ever bothered to check gor yourself ? Please look and tell us how much the median income w Ed not up under Obama and how much it went up under Trump?
Well, let’s assume those numbers are artificially high. Even at 50% it still come out to 37,000+ per year. At 25% is 18,000+ per year. At 10% is 7,500 per year. Are you willing to pay that much a year on a bunch of maybe, might, possibly statements that have so far been wildly wrong?
I’m not. And neither is the vast majority.
Right now each American puts about 13 tons of carbon into the air
The current cost to offset thst is $100. 12tons @ $8 per ton
Instead of accepting the calculations of others please check primary sources and do the math yourself
Apples to oranges again??
You’re talking about offsets that do nothing to reduce CO2. They just give the illusion of CO2 reduction while lining the pockets of scammers.
The GND is a plan to replace all fossil fuels with so-called renewable sources at an astronomical cost.
John says:
February 27, 2020 at 9:43 am
You should Always be most skeptical of the data you want to believe
Are you ?
Right now, each American puts just about zero carbon into the air. I doubt many Americans generate soot.
If you can’t be bothered to know what material you are referring to, why should anyone listen to you?
“The current cost to offset this is $100. 12tons @ $8 per ton”
If you are naive enough to believe that it would stay at that level, please don’t vote or breed. I suggest you explore how quickly the cost of Medicare and Medicaid ballooned, and how much.
Until then, keep your ignorant trap shut.
And what if they’re 100% artificially high? It’s the right-wing Competitive Enterprise Institute reported through the Daily Caller. No disrespect, but the numbers are meaningless.
Real numbers indicate that Trump’s budget dept largesse ($1 trillion/yr) will cost each household $10,000/yr.
So what’s another 75 grand?
you’re voting for Bernie, aren’t you?
Of course he is. After all, BS is the only Authentic commie running. Guys like Elwood have the principles of a mad dog. He’ll vote for a millionaire, white, self-hating Jew and never see the joke.
I will vote for the Democratic nominee, unless the GOP comes up with someone significantly better than trump.
Trump and the Russkies say they want to run against Senator Sanders. They may get their wish, although he wouldn’t be my first choice. But anyone is significantly more qualified than Trump.
His masters haven’t told him who he is voting for yet. He has to wait until they decide, then he will pretend that who he supported all along because:
1. He/She/It is the only one who can beat Trump.
2. He/She/It has a long record of supporting the “little man”, minorities and the disenfranchised.
and, 3. All those previous scandals were just mean Republican dirty tricks.
And Kye will campaign for a thrice married, impeached, faux billionaire, deficit exploding, America hating, faux Christian, serial sexual assaulter who pays off women to stay quiet about his adultery, who has likely paid for more abortions than any president in history and never see the joke. Guys like Kye have the principles of a trump.
But trump hates feminism, Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, abortion, gays and trans, just like Kye.
Hey Perfesser,
Would those be my Chinese or DNC masters?
And you doofuses do realize that only one Dem will be running against one GOPher, right?
Why would anyone vote for Senator Sanders if he wasn’t the nominee?
“The killer in yesterday’s mass shooting at the Miller-Coors brewery in Milwaukee was identified today as 51-year-old black supremacist electrician Anthony Ferrill.
Ferrill, who worked at the brewery, shot and killed five people before turning the gun on himself.
Accoding to the News-Journal — Ferrill believed he was being discriminated against because he was African-American.
A co-worker who asked not to be identified for fear of being disciplined said Ferrill believed he was being discriminated against because he was African American, and that he frequently argued with at least one of the victims, a fellow electrician.
The co-worker said Ferrill frequently watched movies on his phone during the day, which the other electrician took issue with, and that the two accused each other of going into each others’ offices and stealing tools or tampering with computer equipment.
About a year ago, the employee said, Ferrill started saying he believed Miller workers were coming into his home, bugging his computer and moving chairs around.
“I was, are you serious, Anthony? What? We all kind of joked about it, saying we should maybe get him an aluminum hat. Things just started getting weird. But he was dead serious about it,†the co-worker said.
But another co-worker, Keith Giese, said Ferrill seemed fine when he last saw him earlier this week.”
So Elwood was ranting like a loon last week because some clown who was supposed to be a white supremacist whacked ten Germans. This black supremacist, full of leftist hate from hearing Bloomberg’s rants about how whites are the devils that cause all black problems and the crazed ranting of the rest of the self hating RICH white Democommies on the ticket murdered FIVE AMERICANS. The left has created so much made up hatred in people they are now killing us for being white Americans. Thanks, Leftists.
And to prove his bigoted hate Elwood rants “And Kye will campaign for a thrice married, impeached, faux billionaire, deficit exploding, America hating, faux Christian, serial sexual assaulter who pays off women to stay quiet about his adultery, who has likely paid for more abortions than any president in history and never see the joke. Guys like Kye have the principles of a trump.” Accusations and falsehoods about Trump somehow bestowed upon me because I voted for the guy. Always accusing others of what you yourself do. Always claiming others are the evil Devil himself when in fact just look in the mirror commie. All you have are communist candidates and HATE!!!
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K_300mxqNnk/XlVKWT2DZ1I/AAAAAAACL9g/mNJc4gGhXKcR27HT6TbRYxm3G_K7Dq9oQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/90mimb_4427bd0b96636fcfabf1a448fe76422e_3e7b3c11_540.jpg
Trump 2020 let’s deconstruct the lefts hate!
My heart goes out to the families of those killed in Milwaukee.
Kye isn’t used to having people talk back to him. Bloomberg and tRump are like that too. Bullies are like that. It really frustrates them.
Whatsamatter? You can dish it out but not take it?
You daily preach hatred against Muslims, lib/Dems, immigrants, gays et al. Does your hatred contribute to the violence against your enemies?
But sometimes even African-American gun nuts go off their rocker and start shooting.
It’s not surprising Kye ignores the world-wide murders by white far-rightists of Jews, Muslims and immigrants.
Globally, white nationalist attackers have targeted synagogues in the United States and Germany; mosques in England, Norway, and Christchurch, New Zealand; and a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, near the border between the United States and Mexico. Some attackers have described migrants and immigrants as “invaders,†as well as elaborating on the belief that a range of enemies, from Jewish people to feminists to leftists, are conspiring against the white race.
The issue is how much of that can you afford to lose.
Since you rely on Mommy, maybe you should ask her how much of that she wants to part with.
Then, too, median is just that. There’s lots of households that make less.
Yes, half of the households make less than the median!! Half make more.
So you’ll impoverish half the families in the country.
Brilliant.
Teach please tell us how they came up with those numbers
Did you even bother to look ?
Remember your predictions about what would be happening to all the children in NC if private companies were allowed to have gender neutral bathrooms ?
Or the toxic hazards of mass use of CFL bulbs ?
Teach do you remember your fire warnings of the past lije about the $15 wage causing mass unemployment or that craft beer makers were going to be forced out of business by the EPA regulations
Lol
How does the surrender monkey feel about Trump negotiating directly with terrorists and pulling troops out of Afghanistan ? Remember your claim that the terrorists would win and follow us home ?
Right now the cost per person in the USA to go carbon neutral for their 12 tons of carbon pollution per year is about $100
Have you ever computed how much Obama’s regulations have cost you personally ?
Have you ever come up with any proof that there’s a valid reason to go “carbon neutral� No, you haven’t, which is why you start your point with the false premise that there is.
Also, paying $100 to someone doesn’t reduce any carbon, so it doesn’t actually make you carbon neutral. It just transfers money from you to someone who is politically connected and got in on the ground floor of carbon trading, selling something that doesn’t exist to people who don’t want or need it, because you either shame them into it (current system) for force them into it (GND). That’s what Kyoto agreement was all about on an international scale. That is what GND is on a national level.
Which is the #1 reason most of us reject the GND. Buying indulgences to make millionaire and billionaire leftists richer won’t do shit!
Trump 2020 Because all the others are fukin commies.
From Kye– “Buying indulgences to make millionaire and billionaire leftists richer won’t do shit!”
Not true. It will make the billionaires and millionaires REALLY happy. Just because it doesn’t do anything for YOU, doesn’t mean it’s totally useless to everyone.
John, though, seems to be happy to pay a tax that doesn’t really do anything so he can virtue signal..
Maybe Bolshevik Bunny in the John should tell us about where all his carbon offset numbers come from.
It will stimulate the economy and pay for itself, just like GOP tax cuts, LOL!
Anyway, the incredibly vague Green New Deal is pretty hard to price, although right-wingers have tried. The standard amount has been $93 trillion spread over 10 years which comes to, coincidentally $75,000 per household per year. How will the gov’t collect $75,000 per household per year when the households are only making $65,000 a year??
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/how-much-will-the-green-new-deal-cost/
Conclusion: Not enough detail to even make a wild-assed guess.
Cons argue that universal healthcare will cost $36 trillion in the next ten years! In 2018 the US total health care costs were $3.65 trillion.
Summary of Green New Deal:
“Guaranteeing a job with a family-sustaining wage, adequate family and medical leave, paid vacations, and retirement security to all people of the United States.”
“Providing all people of the United States with – (i) high-quality health care; (ii) affordable, safe, and adequate housing; (iii) economic security; and (iv) access to clean water, clean air, healthy and affordable food, and nature.”
“Providing resources, training, and high-quality education, including higher education, to all people of the United States.”
“Meeting 100 percent of the power demand in the United States through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources.”
“Repairing and upgrading the infrastructure in the United States, including . . . by eliminating pollution and greenhouse gas emissions as much as technologically feasible.”
“Building or upgrading to energy-efficient, distributed, and ‘smart’ power grids, and working to ensure affordable access to electricity.”
“Upgrading all existing buildings in the United States and building new buildings to achieve maximal energy efficiency, water efficiency, safety, affordability, comfort, and durability, including through electrification.”
“Overhauling transportation systems in the United States to eliminate pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the transportation sector as much as is technologically feasible, including through investment in – (i) zero-emission vehicle infrastructure and manufacturing; (ii) clean, affordable, and accessible public transportation; and (iii) high-speed rail.”
“Spurring massive growth in clean manufacturing in the United States and removing pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from manufacturing and industry as much as is technologically feasible.”
“Working collaboratively with farmers and ranchers in the United States to eliminate pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the agricultural sector as much as is technologically feasible.
It will stimulate the economy and pay for itself, just like GOP tax cuts, LOL!
It will kill the economy and the tax cuts have already paid for themselves.
Cons argue that universal healthcare will cost $36 trillion in the next ten years! In 2018 the US total health care costs were $3.65 trillion.
Source?
Anywho, we’ve seen how effective “universal healthcare” is.
It’s called Corona.
“Guaranteeing a job with a family-sustaining wage, adequate family and medical leave, paid vacations, and retirement security to all people of the United States.â€
“Providing all people of the United States with – (i) high-quality health care; (ii) affordable, safe, and adequate housing; (iii) economic security; and (iv) access to clean water, clean air, healthy and affordable food, and nature.â€
“Providing resources, training, and high-quality education, including higher education, to all people of the United States.â€
All the promises of Communism.
“Overhauling transportation systems in the United States to eliminate pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the transportation sector as much as is technologically feasible, including through investment in – (i) zero-emission vehicle infrastructure and manufacturing; (ii) clean, affordable, and accessible public transportation; and (iii) high-speed rail.â€
“Spurring massive growth in clean manufacturing in the United States and removing pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from manufacturing and industry as much as is technologically feasible.â€
Pipe dream.
“Working collaboratively with farmers and ranchers in the United States to eliminate pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the agricultural sector as much as is technologically feasible.
Michael Bloomberg, please pick up the white courtesy telephone.
I will vote for the Democratic nominee, unless the GOP comes up with someone significantly better than trump.
The Demos can’t come up with anybody significantly better than Mortimer Snerd.
Trump and the Russkies say they want to run against Senator Sanders. They may get their wish, although he wouldn’t be my first choice. But anyone is significantly more qualified than Trump.
A guy who didn’t have any job until he was 40 and then was just another politician since then?
Pee Wee Herman is more qualified than Bernie.
Hey Perfesser,
Would those be my Chinese or DNC masters?
Ever hear the term distinction without difference?
And you doofuses do realize that only one Dem will be running against one GOPher, right?
Why would anyone vote for Senator Sanders if he wasn’t the nominee?
And you doofus do realize that there is such a thing as write-in?
My heart goes out to the families of those killed in Milwaukee.
No, you wish it was more dead.
Kye isn’t used to having people talk back to him. Bloomberg and tRump are like that too. Bullies are like that. It really frustrates them.
Whatsamatter? You can dish it out but not take it?
Says the guy who calls everybody racist.
You daily preach hatred against Muslims, lib/Dems, immigrants, gays et al. Does your hatred contribute to the violence against your enemies?
But sometimes even African-American gun nuts go off their rocker and start shooting.
Sometimes? 65 in just Chiraq alone this year.
It’s not surprising Kye ignores the world-wide murders by white far-rightists of Jews, Muslims and immigrants.
My heart goes out to the families of those killed in Milwaukee.
Kye isn’t used to having people talk back to him. Bloomberg and tRump are like that too. Bullies are like that. It really frustrates them.
Whatsamatter? You can dish it out but not take it?
You daily preach hatred against Muslims, lib/Dems, immigrants, gays et al. Does your hatred contribute to the violence against your enemies?
But sometimes even African-American gun nuts go off their rocker and start shooting.
It’s not surprising Jeffery L Keene ignores the nationwide murders by blacks and other Lefties.
Globally, white nationalist attackers have targeted synagogues in the United States and Germany; mosques in England, Norway, and Christchurch, New Zealand; and a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, near the border between the United States and Mexico. Some attackers have described migrants and immigrants as “invaders,†as well as elaborating on the belief that a range of enemies, from Jewish people to feminists to leftists, are conspiring against the white race.
How many murders by non-whites?
And Kye will campaign for a thrice married, impeached, faux billionaire, deficit exploding, America hating, faux Christian, serial sexual assaulter who pays off women to stay quiet about his adultery, who has likely paid for more abortions than any president in history and never see the joke. Guys like Kye have the principles of a trump.
Too bad you can’t prove anything but the thrice-married. Likely doesn’t count and assaulting women belongs to Willier and Gropin’ Joe.
But trump hates feminism, Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, abortion, gays and trans, just like Kye.
Sure, that’s why his support among blacks and Hispanics is around 40%. And a lot of blacks and Hispanics are wising up to what the Demos have done to them on abortion.
Record low unemployment among blacks and Hispanics.
Some racist.
As for feminism, you hate that. Have your wife’s bruises healed yet?
I think the left will do everything they can to elect Bernie and the Right should do everything they can to defeat Bernie.
Why? Because Trump is going to lose reelection in 2020 because of this COVID 19 scare.
When the economy crashes. People in a Capitalist society are having their homes and cars and trucks and boats and airplanes and RV’s repossessed because no one is working. When people are sick, schools are closed, jobs are gone and Trump says, well too bad so sad that our capitalist friends have a right to take what is yours back because you weren’t rich enough to pay for it.
Guess how Bernies message will sound in about October? FREE stuff. I will make sure you can’t be foreclosed on and I will make sure they can’t have your car or truck and I will make sure you get all the health care you want.
When you see a guy with a shirt saying Bomb Squad on the front run past you and on the back it says try to keep up. Well that is what every country on the planet is doing right now. They know something we don’t.