Nothing Will Ever Be The Same From Coronavirus And ‘Climate Change’ Or Something

Cultists just can’t help injecting their cult into every topic, can they? They’re like that person you know who always has to interject their favorite topic into every conversation. You know that person

Coronavirus and climate crisis: nothing will be the same again

The pounding and discomposed mobilization of politicians and media against the coronavirus reminds of Peter and the Wolf: what could we ever do to communicate a real emergency, when the climate crisis at the gates will begin to have a serious impact on our lives (as it is already doing on those of millions of other human beings), now that everyone sees that the wolf is not there, or is not a wolf? (snip)

This is how the right (in tune, though denied, with the centre and left-wing establishments, whether they are aware of it or not) is preparing to face by force of arms the consequences of the climate crisis: mass migrations in and from the rest of the world, and struggles against the disruption of living and working conditions and of the territories within each country. Continuing to squeeze gas and oil from the belly of the Earth pumping CO2 into the air. (snip)

The climate and environmental crisis will upset all of them. From now on, and whether you like it or not, things will change for the worse: the weather will no longer be predictable, and sometimes not even bearable; work may be missing because the markets that supported it will disappear; shops and supermarkets will not always be full and we will have to give up many things; we may find ourselves without a car or without gasoline, or with trains that are seven hours late; the light may no longer come on every day, water may no longer run off the tap for hours, houses may remain cold, holidays may fade because planes no longer depart and illnesses from unknown viruses may multiply. And all these things will have to be remedied together with those who suffer with us. But above all we must anticipate them, identifying, taking and imposing new paths, because if we wait for those who govern us to do so, those who continue to think only of building high-speed rail links, pipelines, Olympics games and giant stadiums, while “our house burns”, we will end up burned with it.

This was translated out of Italian. I suspect it reads worse in the original language.

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23 Responses to “Nothing Will Ever Be The Same From Coronavirus And ‘Climate Change’ Or Something”

  1. John says:

    Obama stopped the spread of Ebola no one died from it
    Trump has failed to stop the spread and death from Corona
    And
    WHERE THE HELL IS THAT RASCAL THE SURRENDER MONKEY !!
    after negotiating directly with he terrorist Taliban Trump has agreed to completely surrender and remove all troops
    Cut and run !!

    • formwiz says:

      No, there were a lot of bumps. And sorry, hotshot, the death rate in ’14 was 100%.

      Trump has agreed to completely surrender and remove all troops
      Cut and run !!

      Demos have been doing that for 40 years. Your problem is even A-stan vets have been calling for a withdrawal on the grounds we’ve done all the good we can. It’s in A-stan’s court now.

      Maybe they’re right, I don’t know.

      I do know if you want to change a country and a culture, you have to be willing to stay there a long time and impose your values on it the way the Limeys did here, and in Inja (200 years in both cases). We did the same in Germany and Japan (50 years), albeit with absolute authority.

      But, to call Trump a surrender monkey when Zippy left our guys in Benghazi because he wanted to look pretty in Vegas the next day, is why we call you Hypocrite Hare.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      In addition, the Taliban is now kidnapping Afghan civilians to trade for Taliban prisoners, in accordance with the agreement.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      from a commenter’s citation ‘claiming’ a ‘100% death rate’:

      *In December 2014, Ebola virus cases in the United States occurred due to four laboratory-confirmed cases of Ebola virus disease (commonly known as “Ebola”) in the United States. Eleven cases have been reported, including these four cases and seven cases medically evacuated from other countries; the first was reported in September 2014. Nine of the people contracted the disease outside the US and traveled into the country, either as regular airline passengers or as medical evacuees; of those nine, two died. Two people have contracted Ebola in the United States. Both were nurses who treated an Ebola patient; both have recovered.

      On September 30, 2014, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced that Thomas Eric Duncan, a reportedly 42-year-old (later corrected by CDC reports as a 45-year-old) Liberian national visiting the United States from Liberia, had been diagnosed with Ebola in Dallas, Texas. Duncan, who had been visiting family in Dallas, was treated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas. By October 4, Duncan’s condition had deteriorated from “serious but stable” to “critical”. On October 8, Duncan died of Ebola.*

      In fact, only 2 of the 11 Ebola patients in the US died, that’s 18%, not 100%. We see where the commenter made his error and will tell him/her if the want.

      • formwiz says:

        2 cases contracted in the US, 2 deaths.

        That’s 100%.

        Spare me the Deep State spinning.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          And there’s your error, Zippy. You should have read your own Deep State citation. The 2 who contracted the disease in the US are still very much alive!

          Now, imagine that of the 11 patients in the US, 3 had died instead of 2. Would you still divide the total deaths by the 2 who contracted in the US to yield a death rate of 150%???

          But the 2 cases contracted (2 nurses who treated Duncan) in the US were not the 2 that died. The two that died came from outside the US.

          So the death rate for US-acquired Ebola is actually 0%, not 100%. The death rate for Ebola patients BROUGHT into the US was 2/9 = 22%. For all Ebola patients in the US it was, as we pointed out, 18%.

          And will you admit that bird flu didn’t kill any Americans? Read Kye’s comment below to straighten yourself out.

          Why do you lie so much??

  2. Kye says:

    John, you lie again….Now, let’s go to the Wayback Machine. In April of 2009, the H1N1 became a pandemic. But it wasn’t until six months later, October, that then-President Obama declared a public health emergency on what was already a pandemic. By that time, the disease had infected millions of Americans and more than 1,000 people had died in the U.S.

    CNN reported at the time: “Since the H1N1 flu pandemic began in April, millions of people in the United States have been infected, at least 20,000 have been hospitalized and more than 1,000 have died, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention”…

    … But wait, there’s more.

    According to Virology Journal, the 2009 H1N1 came into the U.S. from Mexico:

    “The swine-origin influenza A (H1N1) virus that appeared in 2009 and was first found in human beings in Mexico, is a reassortant with at least three parents. Six of the genes are closest in sequence to those of H1N2 ‘triple-reassortant’ influenza viruses isolated from pigs in North America around 1999-2000.”

    Now, about that “racist” wall…

    So when you type “surrender monkey” you mean Trump? What and/or when did he ever surrender? He just signed a treaty with the Taliban but you want to keep our troops there and start another war? And how is a peace treaty “surrender”? Is every treat surrender or just those made by Trump since the previous war-loving moooslem president just couldn’t help killing people in wars. That’s why he got the Nobel peace prize after 37 minutes in office don’t ya know?

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Another commenter claimed it was avian (bird flu) that killed 1000?

      H1N1 is still the flu, as is H3N2 and H1N2. Covid-19 is not a flu virus.

      • formwiz says:

        It was.

        Zippy screwed up. As usual.

        And, yes, it is. The scientists (y’know, the guys who use unfudged data) are already referring to it as the flu.

        Your little panic is over. It flopped after people had the weekend to think about it. The market’s up almost 1000.

        And Trump’s the man who won the day. Enjoy the election.

        Toldja.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          I’m beginning to understand that Sibley isn’t making mistakes but is deliberately trying to misinform others!!!

  3. John says:

    We have done all the good we can ?
    The Taliban control more area now than they have in 15 years
    We should never have tried to occupy that country
    The hippies were right
    4000 military and contractors tied 20000 wounded
    For what ? So that our puppet government in Kabul could all become multi millionaires?
    Looking back at Afghanistan who now would say that they now think it was a tragic mistake ?

    • formwiz says:

      The Taliban control more area now than they have in 15 years

      According to whom?

      We should never have tried to occupy that country

      We never did.

      For what ? So that our puppet government in Kabul could all become multi millionaires?

      Remember Pelosi Galore called it the Real War On Terror. I guess our puppet government in Congress wanted to all become multi millionaires, too.

      Looking back at Afghanistan who now would say that they now think it was a tragic mistake ?

      Only idiots like you.

    • @ John, So what’s your point? Are you congratulating Trump for finally ending a pointless war when Obama didn’t have the courage to do it? Or are you saying we should have stayed there longer, and thereby congratulating Bush for his wisdom? Pick a side. Looks to me like you are vigorously supporting President Trump. Are you saying we should stay there until we win no matter what the cost?

      • Kye says:

        I think John is saying we should stay there until HE determines we win. As long as Trump does not get the credit for ending a war that Hussein couldn’t end.

        Trump 2020 Shut down the Democrat’s wars!

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          Democrat’s wars? Wasn’t it a Republican administration that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq?? Didn’t a Republican administration commit us to these wars without a coherent plan?

          The bigger problem is that Congress has stopped taking the responsibility of declaring wars, where we can have bipartisan decision on whether to commit our troops to war.

          There are no Democratic wars or Republican wars, but only American wars.

          • formwiz says:

            I seem to recall all this was precipitated when Willie cut and ran from Mog. I also recall Pelosi Galore (and Gropin’ Joe) telling us A-stan was the real war on terror. I also recall Zippy got us into Labia and Syria with no plan at all, coherent or otherwise.

            I also recall we did have a plan. The Demos didn’t like it because Dubya’s approval was at 90%.

            The bigger problem is that Congress has stopped taking the responsibility of declaring wars, where we can have bipartisan decision on whether to commit our troops to war.

            Do you know all that happens when we declare war? Press censorship, martial law? And, if memory serves, we did have bipartisan decisions both times.

            Do you recall, “I voted for it before I voted against it.”?

            There are no Democratic wars or Republican wars, but only American wars.

            Tell it to Smith, Stevens, Woods, and Doherty.

  4. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Dr. Anthony Fauci publicly corrected Trump’s false statement concerning when a Coronavirus vaccine might reasonably be available. Trump said as soon as 3-4 months, Dr. Fauci stepped in and said 1 to 1 1/2 yrs.

    Dr. Fauci, we hardly knew ye…

    • formwiz says:

      Fauci is staying where he is. Only Zippy needed yes-men to stroke his delicate ego.

      Trump was thinking of the Israelis, who say they’ll have a vaccine in a few weeks.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Zippy,

        Trump was thinking of the Israelis… In that case isn’t it surprising he didn’t mention that? You must be a mind-reader.

        Would you take an untested vaccine for a virus you’re unlikely to get?

        Isn’t it interesting that anti-vaxxer trump (AUTISM! he said) now supports vaccinations?

        • Kye says:

          “Isn’t it interesting that anti-vaxxer trump (AUTISM! he said) now supports vaccinations?”

          Not really, he changed his mind on measles vaccines on 2/28 he said: “They have got to get the shots. The vaccinations are so important, this is really going around now. They have got to get the shots.”

          Trump was skeptical about vaccines which to you radical communists who never, ever change your minds about anything because it’s a religion can’t understand about rational people. We’re allowed to change our minds in a free society and even disagree sometimes.

          What is really interesting is that you act like it’s some sort of weakness or stupidity to weigh the facts and change accordingly. That’s a catharsis dead babies have awaited from the left to no avail. You’re still killing them in mass.

          “New York Times science reporter Donald G. McNeil Jr. noted that the Trump administration took “aggressive measures like barring entry to non-Americans who were recently in China and advising Americans not to go to China or South Korea,” and that this strategy worked, despite the fact that the World Health Organization officially opposes travel and trade restrictions, and “reiterated that even as it declared the epidemic a global emergency on Jan. 30.”

          Senator Tom Cotton said on Friday that “The single most consequential and valuable thing done to stop this virus from already spreading throughout the United States was when President Trump decided to shut down travel to China last month.” He also acknowledged that “the so-called experts who opposed the decision at the time” eventually admitted that it “bought valuable time to prevent the spread of this virus in the United States.”
          Kudos to our president. This man protected us in the face of harm, ignored the flak he got from the communist left for it, and the results now speak for themselves.

          Trump 2020 Big enough and smart enough not to be set in stone like
          leftists.

        • formwiz says:

          Don’t know what you’re babbling about, but the Israelis said they’d have a vaccine ready in that time frame and, if you actually read the piece (actually if you pulled your head out of your ass and just read), you’d know they said they’ve been working on a vaccine for this type of thing since they have to worry about germ warfare and it would be tested and everything.

          Well, you’re the one telling us we’re all going to die from this unless we do what the Lefties say.

          Isn’t it interesting he’s speaking to a country full of people who’ve been bombarded with scare propaganda by Fake News and wants to reassure them?

          Isn’t it interesting you’re trying to wring something out of your failed panic?

          Nitpicking is all you have.

          Wotta doofus.

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