Well, see, the thing is, it’s not supposed to be a stimulus, it’s meant to simply give people and companies money so they will still be around to offer jobs when this is finally over (though, again, I think lawmakers of both parties missed the point, because $1,200 won’t mean much, and some people who do not have their bank account info on record with the IRS won’t see a check for months). But, Warmists have a sad
The Only Thing Green About the COVID-19 Stimulus Bill Is the Money
After more than a week of squabbling over what should go into the third coronavirus relief package, the White House and Senate leaders reached a compromise on Tuesday night. And while no climate-friendly provisions made it into the $2 trillion stimulus bill, it wasn’t necessarily bad news for the planet either.
In the days leading up to this near-final bill, much of the debate centered around Democrats’ attempts to include certain green provisions, like support for the struggling renewable energy industry, and a requirement that a bailout for airlines be contingent on emission reduction promises.
Struggling renewable energy industry, eh? I wonder why that could be?
The fight broke down into a sandbox tussle on Monday when Mitch McConnell accused Democrats of delaying relief for hospitals and struggling Americans in their pursuit of the Green New Deal, while Democrats argued that if the government was going to bail out the oil industry by purchasing $3 billion of oil for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, why not help other hurting energy industries, too? The clash seems to have ended in a draw, as neither the oil bailout nor any clean energy or emissions reduction measures are in the most recent version of the bill. The only thing that stuck was $32 billion for the airline industry—no strings attached.
That’s because citizens and people who aren’t cultish realize that airlines are a necessary industry. Call them Evil if you want, but, it is necessary. The SPR is also necessary.
In the midst of the negotiations, a coalition of scientists, academics, and advocates from the environment, justice, and labor movements penned a letter to Congress with their own “menu of solutions†to make the stimulus a win-win for the economy and the environment. (snip)
The ideas range from the familiar, like creating green jobs in clean energy, construction, the food system, transportation, and manufacturing, to the creative, like expanding funding for the National Endowment for the Arts to support out-of-work artists and makers. There are layers of proposals within each of the umbrellas I just mentioned, like providing direct funding to transit authorities to help them through the slowdown, changing zoning regulations to promote dense development, providing no-interest loans for local governments to build parks, supporting indigenous farming practices and protecting native seeds, and ending fossil fuel subsidies and directing those funds to help workers transition to new jobs.
That whole greens job thing didn’t work under Obama’s Stimulus. Most just disappeared when the government money ended, right? Well, except for the “activists”, who tend to have big carbon footprints. Zoning regulations? Really? How does that help Bob and Betty from down the street?
Even though the $2 trillion stimulus that Congress is voting on this week is void of consideration for the planet, experts are saying it will probably only get us through the next few months. That means many of these ideas could still come into play in future legislation.
They will never give up, because it’s a cult. Again, if this goes on for months, none of this $2 trillion will matter, and people will be broke and getting evicted, losing their cars and homes, not able to buy food. Giving money to transit authorities won’t mean jack shit.
National Review’s Kevin D. Williamson writes
What will happen next with the coronavirus epidemic is unknown, but it seems certain to claim one very high-profile victim: the so-called Green New Deal.
Good riddance.
Don’t bet on it. These climate cultists will never give up.
…it’s not supposed to be a stimulus, it’s meant to simply give people and companies money so they will still be around to offer jobs when this is finally over
There’s your problem, right there! You don’t know what economic stimulus means!
Of course this is economic stimulus, keeping people working, money flowing, consumers consuming, manufacturers manufacturing… The Fed, Congress and the Prez have gone to a lot of trouble to inject several trillion dollars into the economy to keep it going until the Hoax Virus has finished its business. Agent Orange’s biggest concern is that the economic numbers are bad prior to election day.
So-called conservatives are tripping over themselves trying to justify the multi-TRILLION dollar socialist/stimulus package. Suddenly we hear, “This is what the Federal gov’t was intended to do!”, although it’s not in our Constitution. “But this time it is a national emergency!” “Trillions given to businesses large and small during a rough patch is NOT socialism!” “Obama’s fault!”
“We are all Keynesians now.” – Milton Friedman
“We are all socialists now.” – The Truth
“To a conservative, socialism is any program that mostly helps the poor and middle classes.”
Listen, don’t get me wrong. I support the overall fiscal and monetary stimulus plan to keep the economy afloat at this time of crisis. Of course, it is tilted toward the rich and corporations – just as in 2009 – it will always be so in America. If we’re smart as a nation (not usually) we will rebuild our gov’t infrastructure to enable necessary functions including pandemic preparedness, national reserves etc. We’re just going through a rough patch right now where a group of anti-government extremists have taken the reins. On a rapidly warming planet, expanding toward 10 billion souls, we can’t predict when or what the next global crisis will be.
“I’m not in favor of abolishing the government. I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.” – Republican anti-gov’t activist Grover Norquist
Until now.
And again-first, it’s not rapidly warming. Second, it’s the effects that would matter, not the temperature. Third, during similar warm periods in the past civilization has flourished. So the cult’s only proof is “it’s warming!â€
At least you finally admit that it’s warming! How does that square with the earlier insistence that scientists faked all the warming? Wrong then, wrong now, maybe?
When was the last time was it was as warm now? And don’t forget there’s no reason to suspect the warming will slow.* And how many humans comprised the civilization then?
So the cult’s only proof is “it’s warming!†Again, scientific theories are not proven, but as supporting evidence accrues, the theory is generally accepted. Although the mean surface temperature of Earth derives from a complex mix of factors, some promote warming, some cooling, the net is warming at this time.
We humans have evolved to not assess long term risks very well. After all, many intrinsic behaviors and physiology evolved when the challenges were food, water, shelter, security from other emerging ‘humans’ and roaming carnivores, and accidents (a broken arm or leg was a death sentence). By nature we evolved to be acutely hyper-vigilant – we let the future people worry about our future and their present.
Fortunately, the effects of global warming will be gradual. The Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets will not melt in one year raising sea level by 200 feet. Future us will move inland. Agriculture will move northward. People will migrate. More and more of Earth will become uninhabitable, but gradually. Let future generations worry about it. We’ll be dead.
*Although the current pandemic and resulting global recession/depression will temporarily reduce CO2 emissions. One of the subsequent pandemics may kill hundreds of millions or a billion or so. You may be right, global warming may become a big nothing.
At least you finally admit that it’s warming! How does that square with the earlier insistence that scientists faked all the warming? Wrong then, wrong now, maybe?
No, just trying to be fair, always a mistake with somebody like you.
When was the last time was it was as warm now? And don’t forget there’s no reason to suspect the warming will slow.* And how many humans comprised the civilization then?
Last time? How’s ’bout 2012?
So the cult’s only proof is “it’s warming!†Again, scientific theories are not proven, but as supporting evidence accrues, the theory is generally accepted. Although the mean surface temperature of Earth derives from a complex mix of factors, some promote warming, some cooling, the net is warming at this time.
Here we go with Dr Joe’s Big Lie. Anyone in STEM knows you have to prove your contention.
Among things generally accepted was that the earth revolved around the sun.
We humans have evolved to not assess long term risks very well. After all, many intrinsic behaviors and physiology evolved when the challenges were food, water, shelter, security from other emerging ‘humans’ and roaming carnivores, and accidents (a broken arm or leg was a death sentence). By nature we evolved to be acutely hyper-vigilant – we let the future people worry about our future and their present.
Where did you copy that one? We have only so much info about the future. The rest is extrapolation.
But you rely on those computer models and, as we’ve seen with the Kung Flu, those models can be, oh, so wrong.
Fortunately, the effects of global warming will be gradual. The Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets will not melt in one year raising sea level by 200 feet. Future us will move inland. Agriculture will move northward. People will migrate. More and more of Earth will become uninhabitable, but gradually. Let future generations worry about it. We’ll be dead.
Yeah, the Wu Hu Flu will have kilt us all.
That’s what the model said.
Although the current pandemic and resulting global recession/depression will temporarily reduce CO2 emissions. One of the subsequent pandemics may kill hundreds of millions or a billion or so. You may be right, global warming may become a big nothing.
You mean the next bug will be a Red Chinese Germ Warfare Flu, too?