Bloomberg News, though, doesn’t see the problem, and actually lauds this move
https://twitter.com/bopinion/status/1254431277710823425
From the link
My son Nick lives in New Zealand, which has done a remarkable job fighting the coronavirus. As of Friday, the nation of 4.8 million people had 1,456 confirmed cases and only 17 deaths. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s government is now talking about not just containing the virus but eliminating it.
It helps that New Zealand is an island nation that can seal itself off from the rest of the world. It also helps that it has a centralized national health system. But as Nick explained to me the other day, Ardern has also imposed a lockdown unlike anything in the U.S.
New Zealanders are only allowed to drive locally and for essential activities. They are encouraged to restrict outdoor exercise to an hour a day. At the pharmacy, only one customer is allowed in at a time, and clerks retrieve the goods from the shelf and put it in a bag, so customers never touch anything until they return home. The wait to get in the grocery store is usually around an hour where Nick lives, and workers must wear masks and gloves.
Here’s what truly caught my attention. When I asked Nick how often he ordered take-out food, he said never. Every restaurant is closed. So is every shop aside from grocery stores, drugstores and some urgent services. There are few deliveries. E-commerce has largely been halted except for essentials. Food-processing companies still operate, but virtually every other form of blue-collar work is shut down. (Citizens are surviving financially with emergency funds from the government.)
Isn’t interesting that Democrats are always enthralled by authoritarian government? The government also disarmed most people by executive order (though, you only have about 25% having turned in their weapons.) Now they are dictating your life. They also restricted the heck out of international flights, which is a lot easier to do in the tiny nation, and doesn’t take in many refugees.
Compare that with the U.S. At a Smithfield pork plant in South Dakota, more than 700 workers have been infected. Dozens of other U.S. meat-packing plants also have high rates of infection, according to an investigation by USA Today. The Boeing Co., which shut down for a month, is calling back 27,000 workers to its Puget Sound facility in Washington — even though the state’s stay-at-home order will remain in place for at least two more weeks. As of early April, 135 Boeing workers had tested positive for the virus.
One has to wonder where the food in New Zealand is coming from. But, the above continues on and on, because Bloomberg wants authoritarianism. Let’s start with shutting down newspapers. They aren’t essential. If they can sit home and gather the news, OK. But, not actual papers can be delivered, especially since it would take print to make them in the first place.
Thousands of other workers are putting themselves on the line for no good reason other than their bosses are demanding it. Following New Zealand’s lead would mean white-collar types would have to make some small sacrifices. But if we return to what essential truly means, we may also save lives.
And when this is over, what kind of economy will New Zealand have? How many businesses will just be gone, with owners out of business and workers with nowhere to work?
Of course, if you read the replies, you’ll find things like this
No, only some ecommerce has been halted. Where do you get your partisan instructions to deceive from?
— Tom Butlin (@tombutlin) April 26, 2020
Yeah, there’s some interesting spin going on.
And come this winter, when the vast majority of people in the US is immune to bat soup flu, New Zealand will be on lock down again.
herd immunity is the only thing that’s going to solve this thing. With the Spanish flu we did not have vaccines nor really much of a semblance of medicine and we survived. The death toll might reach 2 million with this disease in the next two years, but there is no way they are going to create a vaccine for this.
It’s like asking them to create a vaccine against the common cold or SARS or MERS. They created one for Ebola and it just mutated, was so deadly it killed itself off in a small geographical area.
Herd immunity. Its going to be painful for about 15 percent of the population and deadly for about .1-.2 percent of the population unless we let democrats do the figures in which case people being shot in Chicago will be listed as death by Kung Flu.
0.002 x 330 million Americans = 660,000 dead Americans. Komrade Klem has dropped his mortality rate from 0.4 to 0.2 to get the number of American deaths under 1 million. Kudos. Let’s hope it’s not 1%.
Do you also recommend that we just allow those requiring ICU to be allowed to die since we haven’t the capacity to handle 660,000 dying Americans this year. We can’t handle 55,000. Should we just ignore those with Covid-19, let nature takes its course and go about our business?
How many Americans should die to get tRump re-elected?
Teach is a Covidiot. And is giving you false information. Please get your news elsewhere. Even nowhere would be more accurate than The Pirates Cove. Much of what connies believe to be true is not.
Here’s the truth.
At 11.59pm on Monday, New Zealand will lift its level-4 lockdown which has been in place for more than four weeks. During that time, almost all businesses have been closed, along with schools while the population has been asked to remain in their homes for all but supermarket visits and short walks.
Ardern said there was no way of knowing what may have happened without the level-4 lockdown.
But she warned that in level-3 there were new risks – namely people coming into more contact with others.
Level 3 will see retailers, restaurants and schools allowed to reopen on a smaller scale. Schools will reopen on Wednesday for children up to Year 10 who cannot study from home, or whose parents need to return to work.
Workers will also be able to resume on-site work, provided they have a Covid-19 control plan in place, with appropriate health and safety and physical distancing measures. It is expected one million New Zealanders will return to work on Tuesday.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/new-zealand-prepares-to-lift-strict-lockdown-after-eliminating-coronavirus
New Zealand is demographically similar to Missouri. NZ has 19 deaths from Covid-19, MO has 275. NZ is ‘opening’ their economy, MO has an unelected GOPher governor (whose GOPher predecessor Eric Greitens resigned for tying up his hairstylist, whipping her and threatening to blackmail her if she talked. Greitens’ 2nd wife recently left him). No doubt he’ll run for president – the perfect GOPher.
The USA is a non socialist/constitutional republic that guarantees individuals rights.
However when you put a leftist communist like the PROGRESSIVE FDR in charge what is the first thing he does?
Round up a million Japanese and puts them in concentration camps. FEAR.
The left works off of fear.
At 11.59pm on Monday, New Zealand will lift its level-4 lockdown which has been in place for more than four weeks. During that time, almost all businesses have been closed, along with schools while the population has been asked to remain in their homes for all but supermarket visits and short walks.
Well don’t know about your state but my state the schools have been closed since mid march….6 weeks. Businesses have been closed and you can only go to grocery stores and major retail stores like Lowes, HomeDepot. Restaurants are open but only for carry out. You call in an order, pay over the phone and go pick it up. No contact. They bring it to your car, set it on the curb and walk away.
You really are a lying 50 center. But thats okay. Mums the word on Rapin Joe Biden. Not one single press outlet is bothering to cover the allegations yet when Kavanaugh or Trump was accused it was sensationalized front page news 24×7.
We get it. We are fighting China, The DNC and the communist Media. It is why the progressive wing of the democratic party hates the MSM and China as much as the GOP does. The only difference is they try so hard to claim the donkey as their mascot only to get their ass kicked.
Notice how when earlier Trump said he was going to place all of California Washington and Oregon on quarantine it was the Democrats who objected most loudly,
Notice when Trump said he had absolute power the silence on that from his disciples Trump?
Notice how under Trump we hear nothing from his acolytes about deficits or BIG GIVERNMENT ?
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“Notice how when earlier Trump said he was going to place all of California Washington and Oregon on quarantine it was the Democrats who objected most loudly,”
John rewrites history again for his Chicom masters. No, I don’t remember him saying he was going to “place all of Ca, Wa and OR on quarantine. But I do remember ever single non-leftist I know stating he does not have the power to do that.
“Notice when Trump said he had absolute power the silence on that from his disciples Trump?”
Again, no. Same answer. BTW, it matters not what Trump or anybody else SAID. What matters is that all you leftists locked down your people like Nazi’s. Not Trump!
“Notice how under Trump we hear nothing from his acolytes about deficits or BIG GIVERNMENT ?”
Where do you get your news from, CNN? I see daily Republicans, conservatives and just about any non leftist bitchin’ and moanin’ about deficits and surely even a deaf leftist like you can’t miss the howling warnings about big government on every website and the two semi American networks FOX and AONN. Only commies like big government regardless of how much you try to convince sane people otherwise.
Trump 2020 Because we Hate deficits and big government.
Trump Jr. 2024 Because the thought of these commies taking over in 4 years is frightening
Kye,
The Nazis MURDERED millions. The governors are trying to save the lives of Americans that you want dead.
Hate deficits!?! You lying old fart. LOL. What fukking shred of evidence can you share that connies/GOPhers/trumlublicans have EVER favored reduced spending?? Reagan-Bush-1 nearly tripled the national debt with their tax cuts and spending. Dick Cheney: “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”
I’ll believe connies want to cut deficits when they start living their lives like they do. Give up your Medicare/SS/Medicaid. Stop cutting taxes on the rich.
Connies TALK about cutting spending.
You may not have read trump’s tweets today, but you aren’t allowed to support FOX ‘News’ any longer.
The governors are trying to save the lives of Americans that you want dead.
Like Hell. Governor Blackface wants to extend his dictatorship to ’22.
Gretched Whitler is forbidding everybody everything.
This has nothing to do with saving lives.
but you know that.
Hate deficits!?! You lying old fart. LOL. What fukking shred of evidence can you share that connies/GOPhers/trumlublicans have EVER favored reduced spending?? Reagan-Bush-1 nearly tripled the national debt with their tax cuts and spending. Dick Cheney: “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.â€
How many times did you complain how Zippy jacked up the debt? How many times did you point out Willie never balanced a budget?
I’ll believe connies want to cut deficits when they start living their lives like they do. Give up your Medicare/SS/Medicaid. Stop cutting taxes on the rich.
Taxes were cut across the board and you’re the one bitching about how Trump’s cut Medicare and Social Security.
You may not have read trump’s tweets today, but you aren’t allowed to support FOX ‘News’ any longer.
Most Conservatives gave it up a long time ago, genius.
Connies TALK about cutting spending.
Teach really you should do more checking before posting
NZ is planning on lifting it’s lockdown in 3 hours
The strict lockdown had eradicated the virus in that country
“The strict lockdown had eradicated the virus in that country”
Kinda like it eradicated the Jews in Germany?
And BTW, Red Commie Flu is not “eradicated” in NZ. Far from it. You need to really stop reading only commie news sites. Get a fukin’ life.
Kye compares eradicating SARS-CoV-2 with the Nazis eradicating Jews. How classy.
Teach is wrong and should correct this post.
Read this is you want to know what’s happening in NZ: https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabeltogoh/2020/04/27/new-zealand-wins-battle-against-community-transmission-as-coronavirus-lockdown-start-to-ease/#f55774577d4a
Ardern’s communication and introduction of a four-level alert system to handle the outbreak has been widely praised, with her government receiving an 84% approval rating for the way it has handled the crisis, according to pollster Colmar Brunton.
84%?? That’s double trump’s 42%. It’s so quiet you can almost hear a poll drop.
trump should have called PM Ardern of NZ for tips on being a leader.
You have to lead. You have to devise, execute and narrate a strategy. You have to set out difficult choices, make difficult decisions, take the country into your confidence about why you are making them. You have to show genuine empathy for the difficulties your people are facing, and take them with you.
She emphasised the need for firm action to stop the spread of the virus during what she called “the window of opportunity†before it really took hold, as had happened in China, Iran and, at the time she was speaking, in Italy and New York. She set out, and explained in detail, but in clear, simple language, the four stages of Alert, and what each would require of government and of people. Her manner was calm, authoritative, and friendly.
She focused on the human as much as the economic consequences of the changes that would come as the country went through the different Alert gears. She spelled out very clearly how difficult it would be for everyone. She didn’t say “don’t panic buyâ€. Instead, she explained, smiling, how the supermarkets, pharmacies and petrol stations would function, and stay open. She spoke to New Zealanders’ sense of themselves – “creative, practical, country-minded†– and she ended by urging everyone to “be strong, be kind, and unite against Covid-19â€.
Two days later, moving from Alert level 2 to 3, giving the country a further two days to prepare for the lockdown of Alert level 4, she delivered this memorable line, which helped frame both government action and the public’s understanding of it: “We only have 102 cases – but so did Italy once.â€
No doubt the Kiwis are a tough lot.
The Kiwis are a bunch of PC Socialists.
And allowing your rights to be taken away for a phony flu is the virtue of sheep.
Trump’s killed the virus doing things the Lefties hate. Now he’ll bring back the economy.
You mean the way we had 2 million deaths? NZ is 2 small, sparsely populated islands.
Not that many cases to begin with.
Elwood, are you actually trying to compare the actions of a country with HALF the population of New York City to the United States? Really? Even you can’t be that stupid. So are you? But we do observe how you always get a woody when anyone acts like Hitler. You really are a suppressed Nazi aren’t you?
Teach left this post up? He must be humiliated. New Zealand took early action, kicked The Trump Plague in the balls and is now returning to normal in stages.
We have over 1 million cases, and close to 60 thousand dead, on the way to at least 100,000 dead Americans. All because trump and his acolytes thought the Trump Plague was a hoax.
Again you compare apples to oranges. NZ has 4.8 million people, about half the population of just NYC. Are you planning to lock down 330 million people the way they did? Just call you Adolph. You really are the ultimate Red Chinese 50 cent mouthpiece. “The Trump Plague”? You don’t even have one iota of decency or any concept of reality calling a plague from China the Trump plague. That’s why no one can believe anything you say. It’s all a lie to make somebody else look bad or be responsible for something yoy want to blame them for all for politics.
“The Trump Plague” even THAT is a lie itself. You can’t be trusted for anything.
Trump 2020 Because he’s beating the Chinese Flu.
I’m sorry. Does ‘The Trump Plague’ trigger you? LOL.
The Trump Plague is sweeping the US while even little NZ was able to control it.
4% of the world’s population has 33% of the cases and 25% of the deaths.
The richest, most powerful, advanced nation in history…
Little NZ had little to control.
Does ‘The Trump Plague’ trigger you? LOL.
No, it’s just amusing because it ought to be called the Cuomo/Wilhelm Plague. They’re the ones who welcomes all the sickies in. BTW nobody is anythinged by your churlish little taunts. They just show how desperate you and yours are since it’s the Demos at the state, local, and nationals levels that are getting all the blame.
4% of the world’s population has 33% of the cases and 25% of the deaths.
Lie. CDC has admitted to inflating both figures, so you not impressing anybody.
Stick that up your pudendum with your LOL.
The richest, most powerful, advanced nation in history…
And smart enough not to have socialized medicine, too.
Because he’s beating the Trump Plague?? What would losing to the Plague look like? A million dead? How many dead Americans do you need to re-elect trump?
You mean the Cuomo/Wilhelm Hack? Right now real Shy Knees Blight deaths are about 30% what is claimed.
It was your “experts” that said it would be a million.
How many dead Americans do you need to re-elect trump?
Haven’t you heard? We’re levelling the curve, so the death rate’s going down.
A better question to ask would be how many impoverished Americans do you need to elect a Democrat?
Population of NZ is 4 million, with 1400 cases.
Unlike the US, there was no state and city of NY inviting infected people from Red China and Italy into the country, so that kept cases low. Too bad the Lefties are the ones responsible for the spread.
And there are only about 18,000 dead and likely cases are 200,000.
Your exaggeration is risible.
All because trump and his acolytes thought the Trump Plague was a hoax.
No, all because the Demos didn’t want to stop their phony impeachment to pay attention to what was happening.
Liar. The population of New Zealand is 4.8 million.
We understand that Connies don’t think NY is part of America, but NY supports a lot of Red ‘taker’ states (much of the Old Confederacy).
I rounded, but who cares?
4 or 5 mil is miniscule compared to most countries, especially the US, but I appreciate your desperation in wanting to inflate this very small victory.
We understand that Connies don’t think NY is part of America, but NY supports a lot of Red ‘taker’ states (much of the Old Confederacy).
It does? Last I looked, NY couldn’t even support itself.
BTW Elwood, NZ got their best results because AFTER Trump closed travel from China to America the NZ did the same for their country therefore stopping the influx of thousands of returning Chinese students. PLUS, they then closed their borders 100% in mid March.
When Trump did it YOU called him (and us for agreeing) xenophobes and raaaaacists.
NOW you cry he didn’t do enough.
For clowns like you Trump can NEVER do anything right. You are liars, partisans ans haters.
Trump 2020 Throw out all the illegals
The Trump Plague (Eastern form) came to the US from Europe.
… Trump can NEVER do anything right.*
That’s hardly an admirable quality.
Wrong again.
The Cuomo/Wilhelm Plague came from both Italy and Red China. Don’t you remember how Don Cuomo welcomed all those health refugees from the Far East?
Many of whom had been sent by Red China to infect the US.
Covidiot.
Alabama is comparable to New Zealand (19 dead) and has 242 dead from The Trump Plague.
South Carolina is comparable to New Zealand and has 192 dead from The Trump Plague.
Louisiana is comparable to New Zealand and has 1,758 dead from The Trump Plague.
Kentucky is comparable to New Zealand and has 225 dead from The Trump Plague.
With more Americans to die over the next few months from The Trump Plague.
Last I looked, AL, SC, KY, and LA were in a warm climate and are more rural states. Thus, the bug didn’t flourish in any of them.
So it looks like whatever you call it, and it’s the Cuomo/Wilhelm Plague, those deaths you are aching to see just aren’t going to materialize. The 50s and 60s those states enjoyed in February are now hitting the North. People are getting outside, telling the Democrats to go fu(k themselves. And people like you along with them.
The bug will die out and you’ll have to find something else to whine about.
Maybe how people by the tens of thousands are protesting the tyranny of Democrat governors and mayors. Great way to run up to an election.
One of ReOpen NC’s lead organizers, Audrey Whitlock, revealed this week that she had tested positive for the coronavirus.
What’s your point? In order to develop heard immunity people will necessarily test positive and be asymptomatic. Is that somehow wrong? An estimate of those who test positive with the standard flu annually can be as high as 60 million. So what? Or are you happy and giddy as you immoral pigs are apt to be when someone you disagree with gets sick or dies. Is that what you want for Audrey Whitlock because she DARED to want to go back to work when YOU deem she should’t?
You don’t care about Audrey or anyone else but yourself and killing the economy for political gain. Admit it you liar.
You leftists are genocidal killers deep down. Ask Stalin or Hitler about “statistics”. You’re on their page.
Trump 2020 Make the liars cry again!