Constitution? What’s that? Due Process? MIA. Democrats? Still unable to Move On, in complete Trump Derangement Syndrome. The “trial” starts today at 1pm
Democrats Threaten to Punish Trump for Not Testifying at Impeachment Trial
Democrats reiterated Monday a threat to punish former President Donald Trump for not testifying at the impeachment trial in the Senate, which begins Tuesday.
In a short filing responding to Trump’s lawyer’s 75-page trial memorandum, submitted Monday, the House impeachment managers — all Democrats hand-picked by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) — wrote:
[T]he House has invited President Trump to voluntarily testify under oath, yet President Trump immediately rejected that opportunity to tell his story. The House will establish at trial that this decision to avoid testifying supports a strong adverse inference regarding President Trump’s actions (and inaction) on January 6.
The Democrats were responding to Trump’s lawyers’ claim that Democrats’ rushed impeachment, which defied all previous procedural conventions governing impeachment in the House, denied the president the constitutional due process of law.
The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides that “No person … shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.†The impeachment trial is not a criminal case; however, many constitutional scholars argue that the same principles ought to apply — there, above all.
When Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) wrote to Trump’s lawyers last week, inviting Trump to testify, he made a similar threat: “If you decline this invitation, we reserve any and all rights [sic], including the right [sic] to establish at trial that your refusal to testify supports a strong adverse inference regarding your actions (and inaction) on January 6, 2021.â€
Trump was afforded no due process in the House, with a rushed process, then Pelosi sat on impeachment for weeks. Now they’re threatening some sort of punishment for the constitutional guarantee that a person doesn’t have to testify, and finding him guilty till proven innocent. Trump and his people and the Republican Senators should just refuse to show up for this bit of unhinged Democratic Party hissyfit.
Rep. Jim Jordan: Trump impeachment trial – here’s what the Senate must do
It’s been almost a month since he left office, but Democrats still can’t let go of President Donald Trump. That’s why, as our country faces many urgent challenges, the Senate will set aside its real work this week and instead focus on yet another political impeachment charade. (snip through his evidence that there’s evidence that Trump had nothing to do with the violence)
Democrats ignored these facts. They also ignored the Constitution. Democrats afforded President Trump no due process in the House of Representatives. In fact, there was no process whatsoever – no witnesses, no depositions, no hearings, no cross-examinations.
Because Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., withheld sending the article of impeachment to the Senate until after President Trump left office, the Senate is poised to conduct an unprecedented impeachment trial of a president who is no longer in office. The only problem? The plain text of the Constitution makes clear that’s not allowed.
The Constitution states the “President … shall be removed from office on impeachment … and conviction.” The Constitution also specifies that “Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor.” The Senate obviously can’t remove a president who is no longer in office, and so it can’t disqualify a president from future office if it didn’t remove him while he was in office.
The Constitution also requires that the chief justice of the United States preside over a presidential impeachment trial. Chief Justice Roberts has said that he won’t preside over this trial. The substitute presiding officer, Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., is also a juror who has already signaled support for President Trump’s conviction. Americans know this arrangement wouldn’t fly in a court of law, and it’s equally concerning in this trial too.
In their desperation to attack President Trump, Democrats are trampling on other important constitutional rights. Last week, Democrats threatened President Trump that if he declined to testify during the Democrats’ impeachment charade, they would use it as proof of his guilt. That may be how trials work in socialist countries. But that’s not how it works in America.
Democrats do not care, and the Credentialed Media will provide cover.
Impeachment and conviction is a political act. The House managers invited trump to testify knowing he would refuse to avoid incriminating himself and lying under oath (he can’t speak without lying). Obviously, a competent prosecutor would love to question trump under oath. Now, the Impeachment managers are using his refusal to testify against him.
Trump wanted to use the strategy that he was the victim of election fraud which justified his inciting the riot. His lawyers at the time refused.
And of course it’s constitutional to impeach a president. Trump was in office when he was impeached, but Senate majority leader McConnell refused to allow a Senate trial. The mistake that people make is that a Senate trial is like any trial. It’s not. An ordinary citizen wouldn’t be tried for wearing a swastika shirt or raising the confederate rag over their home. But a president could be impeached for it.
If a president can’t be impeached for trying to overturn his own election loss, for what can he be impeached?
It’s unlikely Senate Republicans will convict trump, but that’s OK.
“Overturn his election loss..â€. Actually, it would be “questioning his election lossâ€. So much more truthful and so much less drama.
All we wanted was an honest count and since you fascists can’t or won’t do that we now have an illegal occupant in the Fake House. He’s a phony, a bigger liar than Trump ever was and a fukin fascist just like you my little Adolph.
Mr TEWS,
I apologize for calling you crazy. Medical science views you as a weak-minded asshole, but not insane. Feel better now?
Why do you think your trump has abandoned his position of insisting the election was stolen?
Funny Rimjob trying to explain medical science.
BWAHA!
BelieveTheLie!
#UnityMotherf@cker!
Lolgf
Mr trump was not questioning the election. He repeatedly insisted the election was stolen. It was rigged. It was fraudulent. Trump made multiple efforts to overturn the election.
We vote, state by state. The states count the votes. The states certify the vote. The federal government certifies the vote. Finally, the new President is inaugurated. Mr Trump and his legal team tried to interfere with the process at every step, culminating in the attack on the Capitol as Congress and the VP certified the vote on Jan 6.
Late on Jan 6, trump tweeted:
There were multiple recounts, none revealing any voter fraud. Neither the DOJ, FBI, multiple court cases, state election officials, found any significant election fraud. Reasonable people are forced by evidence to conclude there was no significant election fraud causing trump to lose.
Elmo P. Rimjob having problems justifying his delusions again.
BWAHA!
#BelieveTheLie!
#UnityMotherf@cker!
Lolgf
Jeff,
You are one stupid fool. The recounts are equal to the bank robbers investigating the robbery. There is no doubt that the election was fraudulent. If it was legitimate, then that is sad as the works are now moving forward for the dissolution of the Union. This coming civil war will be easier than I thought as there are only one or two countries that desire to see a strong USA. China, Russia, the Middle East countries will all assist a rejuvenated CSA. Can’t wait. If only the idiot liberals had just played fair.
davidduke7134,
Good luck with your new CSA. China, Russia, the Saudis and the new CSA, together at last! Talk about the new Axis of Evil!
You say: “There is no doubt that the election was fraudulent, but if it was legitimate, then that is sad as the works are now moving forward for the dissolution of the Union.”
So in your crazed mind, democracy “is sad”. You hate “diversity” with the white hot heat of 1,000 Suns so much, that you prefer being enslaved by communist totalitarians. What a patriot. What a patriot.
Jeff,
Exactly what does the steal have to do with democracy?
As to doing business with communist, ask Biden, he has a great relationship with them. But as to asking totalitarian regimes to assist in obtaining freedom from one of the most totalitarian of governments, what is the issue?
When your leaders authorized the steal, they opened a big box of evil. Now they are making it worse with the demonization of Trump supporters, continued efforts to impeach our best ever president.
No, the next few years will be interesting.
daviddukem,
Since the election was not stolen, trying to overturn it anti-democracy. You and Don have had over 3 months to find evidence and you’ve failed.
By all means contact the Russians and Chinese to help you and trump overthrow the US.
Trump supporters continue to demonize themselves.
Should be entertaining.
Jeff,
It is like this, you are a liar, given to hysteria who is very ignorant and thus your opinion on the steal lacks in value. We did not have a legitimate election. Even Biden said as much. Thus, the US ended 11/3/20.
Molon labe, motherfukking traitor. Molon labe…
Come and take America, motherfukking traitor. Come and take America…
They want to punish tRump for treason, in hopes of discouraging the next authoritarian that nuCons elect.
We’re not surprised that TEACH is pulling out all stops to defend the odious tRump. Just move on, he says. Just move on, the cowardly Senate GOPhers say. Did we “just move on” after 9/11?
Donald j. tRump incited a pocket of violent Americans to stupidly overrun the Capitol in an attempt to overturn the election to overthrow the US government. No “peaceful transfer” of power for tRump!
“Courageous” Senate GOPhers don’t give a shit about America, they’re worried about 2022 and 2024 elections and the rabid trumpublican voters.
They act like they just stole an election! That’s why they put a fence with razor ribbon guarded by 10-20,000 armed troops. They created a banana republic and want to vote to remove a guy from office who is not any longer in office. They act like they just stole an election.
Time Magazine outed the corruption just so brain washed assholes can ignore it. People like Elwood don’t care about the legitimacy of an election as long as “their man” wins.
The election was stolen, Elwood knows it, we know it, Time magazine knows it and the American people know it. There will be a reckoning.
They act like they need to protect America from a mob of traitors led by ex-president tRump, defeated in the election.
Mr TEWS should read the Time article detailing how the Dems quite legally won the election. As a member of tRump’s cult, Mr TEWS doesn’t can’t accept that his Messiah lost.
The election was not stolen. There is no legitimate evidence that it was. Mr TEWS knows it and the American people know it. A small mob of traitors refuse to accept facts.
On the floor of the Senate, tRump’s own lawyer admitted that Mr Biden won.
Mr TEWS is right about one thing. There will be a reckoning.