We’re back to “the debate is over.” Because that’s apparently how Science works for climate cultists. Second, conservatives are not the same from country to country. US conservatives are more of Classical Liberals, per Political Theory 101, while Canadian European Conservatives are more Classical Conservatives, and, yeah, there’s a difference. Third, it’s strange that one of the preeminent college institutions, Harvard, wants to shut down debate. Isn’t that part of what education is about?
Global Conservatives and the Myth of a Climate Change Debate
On Saturday, the Canadian Conservative Party voted down a recent proposal for the party to become more green-friendly, rejecting stances such as “Canadian businesses classified as highly polluting need to take more responsibility†and “climate change is real.â€
Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole was seen Friday urging his colleagues to be more open-minded, believing that the party’s failure to recognize the scientific consensus behind human-caused climate change would hurt their chances to challenge the Liberal Party coalition and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in the next election. But the 54 to 46 percent vote is the latest affirmation of the enduring conservative trend to reject modern climate realities.
If you have to use “consensus”, it’s not science.
The Canadian decision is the latest development in a much larger problem. Conservatives across the globe are continuing to rally behind a scientifically debunked claim that climate change isn’t happening. In the United States, conservative politicians — none of whom are scientists themselves — discredit and question prominent and reliable climate change researchers. In Germany, right-wing party officials pass out scientifically inaccurate pamphlets at student activist rallies.
Alas, no. Skeptics will tell you again and again that the debate is not that the climate has changed. It has. It’s warmer than it was in 1850, when the Little Ice Age ended. No, the debate is on causation, and the Cult of Climastrology cannot prove, using the Scientific Method or anything other than supposition, that the changes are mostly/solely caused by Mankind. They surely do not act like it in their own lives, right?
The “debate†over climate change is a myth that conservative leaders must cease to perpetuate. Overwhelming scientific consensus affirms that the earth is warming at historic rates. Claims to the contrary are not a valid political opinion — they are an alternate reality that is incompatible with basic fact.
And that’s where we get into their “just shut up and take it” mode. The “how dare you speak!” mode. Wrongthink. They are very unhappy with Free Speech and Free Thought.
Groundbreaking studies on historic atmospheric carbon levels found that over the past 800,000 years, carbon dioxide in our atmosphere has never surpassed around 300 parts per million, even in Earth’s warmest periods. However, since 1950, CO2 levels have risen dramatically to over 400 ppm, levels never before reached in observable history.
Which means exactly zero, as the Earth has experienced multiple warm periods during the Holocene period, many warmer than the current Modern Warm Period. Heck, what caused the world to warm, ending the last glacial period? Sure wasn’t fossil fueled vehicles and people eating burgers. What they’re proposing is a supposition. An “uncertain belief.” Not science. Why don’t they try explaining why there were multiple warm periods when CO2 was much lower? “That was then this is now” is not a scientific explanation.
The time to deny humanity’s role in our warming earth is long over, and conservative leaders who continue to perpetuate the myth of a debate are lying to themselves and their constituents. This is different from a debate around which policies provide the best pathway forward. Countries like France, Germany, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, and the U.S. — with large populations that continue to subscribe to the anti-climate-change narrative — should put tax dollars to use by discussing action, not by trying to ignore extensive scientific evidence.
Why would we spend money on something that is clearly not a proven scientific reality? If you want to argue that, yes, the climate has changed, it has gotten warmer, we could do with protecting infrastructure and such, sure, OK, I’ll agree. If you want to propose taxing the hell out of people and private entities while taking away their freedom, liberty, and choice, well, nah, you won’t get that agreement. Because that’s what they want. Just look at how they frame this: taking away people’s Free Speech and Thought. And that’s what they’ve been pushing for over 30 years.
When I started pointing out that this was all about pushing Progressive (nice Fascism) (you can call it Marxism, Socialism, Communism, etc) political doctrine around 16 years ago, even Skeptics said I was off base. And every day, month, and year proves me correct.
More Gems of Wisdom from the Liberal Libertarian who the left hates even though he is one of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0q2ZR4nBuE
So true. So True.
Science without doubt is politics. But of course that’s the way they want it..
If CO2 drives temperature, and atmospheric CO2 hasn’t been over 300 ppm in 800,000 years, then how do the warmistas explain the Medieval Warming Period, the Roman Warming Period, and the Minoan Warming Period — all of which were warmer than now?
Teach: If you have to use “consensusâ€, it’s not science.
Scientific theories are not proven and science is rarely if ever settled. But a scientific consensus is reached in a field of science when a majority of scientists in the field accept the validity of a theory. That doesn’t mean that research in the field should stop – far from it. It doesn’t mean that the consensus won’t change – when scientists are presented with new information, they will incorporate that information into the overall model.
There’s a scientific consensus around the Big Bang. Evolution/selection. Global warming. Tobacco and cancer. Plate tectonics. Special and general relativity. Quantum theory. Prion diseases. Gravity. HIV/AIDS.
New theories that better explain predictions based on previous theories can replace the original. For example, general relativity replaced Kepler’s laws of planetary motion.
Jeff,
Your CO2 hoax is not a theory. It is a hypothesis. You have no proofs. Get the proofs and come back. And your desire for global communism will not lower CO2.
As hypocrite Elwood debates us….
“…when scientists are presented with new information, they will incorporate that information into the overall model.”
That may be true enough but when “The Science” becomes political the only information incorporated into it is that which furthers the narrative. Even worse, when that political narrative becomes a popular movement the ability to separate fact from fiction becomes impossible. That’s where we are with both man made climate change and the Wuflu. Science, facts and truth no longer drive either. A great example would be your nefarious need to list the daily death tally (Fictional or not) for Chinese Flu when Trump was President as if Trump can turn on and off a disease like a spigot yet the moment Chairman Xiden was installed as Great Leader you stopped. There was no benefit to your political narrative any longer.
The politicizing of everything particularly science has made science mostly a Witch Hunt like everything else fascists do.
President Biden does not minimize the pandemic (Trump Plague) or treat it like a hoax and a scam as the prior administration did.
549,411 dead Americans from Covid as of today. Feel better?
Daily new cases have been cut by 80% since January, daily deaths have dropped by two-thirds. Unfortunately, both statistics have plateaued at nearly 50,000 new cases and 1000 deaths per day.
As a nation we are immunizing some 3 million per day with still a way to go. We will defeat the Trump Plague but it will not be easy.
Again Rimjob refuses to recognize the monumental efforts of President Trump and Operation Warp Speed.
All Joey did was hide in a basement and bitch.
Bwaha! Lolgf
J-you know we won’t let you get away with your BS, so why do it? The prior administration did not treat the pandemic like a hoax or minimize it. “Biden didn’t minimize itâ€. Actually, he and other tops Dems criticized Trump’s China travel ban which if not enacted would have made things worse, obviously. However it was characterized at the time was in line with what the “experts†knew or didn’t know at the time. But if you have evidence it was portrayed as a hoax or minimized more than disease experts at the time thought it was, by all means show us. Also, you’ve been shown several times a collection of various liberal media headlines advocating the very same “minimization†you accused Trump of.