Now that the vaccines are approved for kids 5 and up, along with all the mandates for adults from Joe, this is the leadup to mandating the vaccines for kids
Biden Administration Likens Polio to Coronavirus in Children
First lady Jill Biden and Surgeon General Vivek Murthy kicked off their campaign to encourage child coronavirus vaccinations Monday by visiting the first school to inoculate children against polio in McLean, Virginia.
The administration is pushing to get children ages 5-11 vaccinated. The Associated Press states that 28 million children are eligible for the shots now that the Pfizer vaccine was approved.
In 1954, Dr. Richard Mulvaney administered the first polio vaccine to 114 second graders at McLean’s Franklin Sherman Elementary. (snip)
While polio is usually contracted by children under 5, the average age of someone who died from the coronavirus is 72.8 years old, according to the University of Minnesota.
Huh
(NPR) Franklin Sherman Elementary made history as the first school to administer the polio vaccine to its students in 1954 — a fact that First Lady Jill Biden embraced on Monday as she visited the school’s COVID-19 vaccination clinic to encourage pediatric vaccinations for children ages 5-11 years old.
The Seattle Times is all over this, as is the Washington Post, NY Times, ABC News, and so many others. USA Today tries
Let’s help our brave children through this pandemic by getting them vaccinated, again
Nearly seven decades ago, polio was the most feared disease in our country because of its high infection rate among children.
Just in 1952, nearly 60,000 children were infected. Images of children in iron lungs keeping them alive terrorized parents, as did reports of the thousands who were paralyzed. More than 3,000 children died that year. (snip)
Kids 5-11 must get the COVID vaccine.Trusted family physicians must be the ones to give it.
Since the beginning of this pandemic, our children have shown a bravery beyond their years. In school districts that have prioritized health over politics, kids have been wearing masks. Many children have endured the intrusion of COVID test swabs and quarantines. They have missed friends and family and, for months on end, witnessed their parents’ love manifest as anxiety and worry.
Yes, forcing kids, with the lowest chance of contracting the Chinese coronavirus and lowest chance of dying from it, to wear masks which make almost no difference in stopping COVID19. You have vaccine cultists comparing COVID to polio all over social media and in comments and such, forgetting a few things, such polio having been eradicated in the US and other first world nations because the vaccine works. When the full regimen of vaccines are taken, the person has virtually 100% immunity from getting polio, nor can they transmit it, and that’s for life. They have no fear from polio. If they are around it, they won’t get it. They won’t be carriers spreading it around.
Unlike the Chinese flu vaccines, where you can get it and can give it. Yes, it is supposed to provide protection from getting it, in the range of 88%-94%, so the studies say now. And, if you get it, it will usually be less severe than without the vaccine. I still took it, and just got the booster. I’d rather be safe than sorry, and I’m willing to take that chance. But, it in no way protects me like my polio vaccination. Not even freaking close. Because people can be carriers without symptoms and spread it around. The vaccine doesn’t stop that.
They’d probably do a whole lot better with the messaging if they’d stop fear mongering, and just be honest. Compare it more to the flu shots. They aren’t perfect, but, it’s a whole lot better getting the flu shots and hopefully not getting the flu than not getting the shots, right? Protect yourself. But, what they’re doing is setting up the stage to create vaccine mandates for kids, which will more than likely originate in school systems, cities, counties, and states.
Our distinguished host noted:
In the meantime, Governor Tom Wolf (D-PA) has announced that the mask mandate for schools will end on January 17th. With lawsuits against the state proceeding to get the courts to throw out his illegal abuse of power, the Governor is ending the mandate, in hopes of having the lawsuits thrown out as moot, to preserve the ‘authority’ to impose them again.
Of course, Philadelphia has taken its own totalitarian course, going after private schools which oppose mask mandates.
Cue Jeff for comment demonstrating slavish devotion to Biden Administration, even if it kills children.
Cue “Perfesser” Hell for comment demonstrating slavish devotion to Teach’s ignorance, suggesting that masks and vaccinations kill children.
700 kids have died from Covid infection. Thousands have been hospitalized.
Dozen of deaths have been reported in VAERS following standard childhood vaccinations, including DP, tetanus, polio etc. Should we stop all mandated vaccinations of school children?? FREEDOM!!! (to get sick and die)
William Teach: Why are they inching up, when so many are vaccinated?
While 72% of the *eligible* population (age 12+) is fully vaccinated, only about 62% of the *total* population is fully vaccinated.
http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/coronavirus/vaccine/vaccine-dashboard.htm
William Teach: What about big box stores and supermarkets? Why are they being left out?
Grocery stores and pharmacies are not under the mandate because the unvaccinated still have to be able to buy food and pharmaceuticals.
William Teach: Why do we need this all when they say masks work, and everyone is required to wear a mask?
Because masks only offer partial protection.
About 800 children have died from COVID-19. While not as deadly in that age group as for polio, it is not an insignificant number. The total dead from COVID-19 is about 700,000, dwarfing deaths from polio.
In polios worst year about 60000 died
Covid kills 5 times as many
Except all the Polio deaths were actually from Polio whereas 90% of Covid deaths are WITH Covid not from Covid. Plus, nobody really knows how many deaths were unnecessarily caused by the refusal of the Trump hating government, media and medical conspiracy refusing to administer HQC and Ivermectin at early stages. Both of which have been available since day one of the pandemic and both of which have been used successfully around the world. If HQC could save just one diabetic black child’s life……..
CarolAnn: Except all the Polio deaths were actually from Polio whereas 90% of Covid deaths are WITH Covid not from Covid.
The statistics of excess deaths supports the COVID count.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/figures/mm6942e2-F1.gif
Also, studies of death certificates, as well as reports from hospitals and morgues shows the vast number of people affected by the pandemic.
CarolAnn: HQC and Ivermectin at early stages
Phase 3 trials have not been successfully completed for either drug for treatment of COVID.
Zachriel claims he statistics of excess deaths supports the COVID count. I don’t believe the numbers are true nor accurate. There have been too many discrepancies and way, way too much political cooking of books for the data to be reliable. Unless of course you are the type who takes the “word” of government and their agencies at face value. I do not. My husbands 20 year military career has taught me to disbelieve the BS.
We all know (or should know by now) the Covid numbers were drastically inflated from the very outset to instill fear, panic and compliance. It was obvious by the lack of bodies piling up on street corners and also by the premium bounty placed on Covid “deaths” by the government to the hospitals and physicians. Hospitals and doctors are being paid by the number of Covid deaths not the annual flu or pneumonia deaths and the numbers reflect that. I’m not suggesting only a fool would believe these wildly inflated for profit and power numbers but when you throw a professional liar like Fauci into the mix who was changing his mind like Brandon changes his Depends the obvious conclusion was we were and still are being lied to and that’s the real pandemic. A pandemic of lies and fear and money.
You note that Phase 3 trials for both HQC and Ivermectin for Covid treatment are not yet complete. Let’s see, they developed, brought to market and distributed a brand new vaccine (3 actually) which turned out not to actually be a vaccine but rather a therapeutic in record time but two medicines already approved for other uses and being in use universally for years one of which received a Nobel Prize have not been successfully tested in over two years? Plus, these meds are being used successfully in other countries with great results.
If this pandemic is so scary, so deadly and so prolific it would seem to me any and every known medicine that could be used to control it would be promoted. Especially ones that have been around so long and have worked so well. Unless suggested by the hated Trump, of course. Then just let people die.
CarolAnn’s beliefs do not align with the facts supplied by experts. Noted.
“I don’t believe the evidence!” is hardly an argument.
… both HQC (sic) and Ivermectin for Covid treatment… Plus, these meds are being used successfully in other countries with great results.
That is incorrect. Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and ivermectin (IVM) have not been proven effective in randomized, placebo-controlled, blinded trials. BTW, the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine was awarded to William C. Campbell and Satoshi Omura “for their discoveries concerning a novel therapy against infections caused by roundworm parasites.” They discovered avermectin which was chemically modified to ivermectin. That same year Dr. Tu Youyou shared the Nobel for her discovery of artemisinin, where modifications yielded a potent anti-malaria drug. Just because scientists receive a Nobel for their discoveries doesn’t mean the drugs cure everything.
If this pandemic is so scary, so deadly and so prolific it would seem to me any and every known medicine that could be used to control it would be promoted.
Only medicines that are shown to work should be used. Dozens of drugs, supplements and vitamins and combinations have been used in studies of varying quality. Steroids, remdesivir, baricitinib and anti-Covid antibody cocktails have been shown effective, so far. The Covid pandemic is especially susceptible to quackery since the mortality rate is low. Most individuals infected recover without treatment!! So a vaccinated American may still contract Covid, take ivermectin, recover and credit ivermectin with their recovery!! Don’t forget over 700,000 Americans have died from Covid, so far (we know, we know, you don’t “believe” the figure). Worldwide, some 5000 to 10,000 are still dying daily from Covid.
CarolAnn: Zachriel claims he statistics of excess deaths supports the COVID count.
The numbers are consistent across the U.S., with individual states, and in other countries.
CarolAnn: There have been too many discrepancies and way, way too much political cooking of books for the data to be reliable.
Excess deaths is a measure *independent* of the COVID death count. When independent sources of evidence have the same result, it lends confidence to the finding.
CarolAnn: We all know (or should know by now) the Covid numbers were drastically inflated from the very outset to instill fear, panic and compliance.
That doesn’t explain why the COVID death count closely follows the statistics of excess deaths.
CarolAnn: It was obvious by the lack of bodies piling up on street corners
No, they were piled up in refrigerator trucks.
CarolAnn: You note that Phase 3 trials for both HQC and Ivermectin for Covid treatment are not yet complete.
That’s right.
CarolAnn: they developed, brought to market and distributed a brand new vaccine (3 actually) which turned out not to actually be a vaccine but rather a therapeutic
We already answered this elsewhere. It’s a vaccine because it exposes the immune system to a virus or its components, priming the immune system for potential infection.
Jonas Salk, you know, the guy who developed the polio vaccine, also developed the first influenza vaccine. In 1944, he published “Protective Effect of Vaccination Against Induced Influenza Virus A”. Do you think maybe he knows what constitutes a vaccine? Or are you just arguing semantics (erroneously)?
CarolAnn: Plus, these meds are being used successfully in other countries with great results.
If they have such great results, why has there not been phase 3 trials (random, double-blind) in these other countries?
CarolAnn: 90% of Covid deaths are WITH Covid not from Covid
90% of car crash victims have a co-morbidity, e.g., obesity, heart disease, smoking, T2 diabetes, hypertension, poor vision, infectious disease, drug/alcohol use, arthritis, backache, headache, ADHD, depression, STDs, shingles, anxiety, diarrhea, cold or flu, impulse control disorder, COPD, CKD, flatulence… therefore 90% car crash victims die WITH a car crash not FROM a car crash.
No Elwood P. Dowd, unless they threw a heart attack causing them to crash the car they died FROM the car crash With the morbidities. You have a huge gaping hole in your logic.
I also know that if you get a Covid shot and die from it you died from the shot not the Covid. Thousands of people are doing just that. No morbidities necessary the shot kills them. Especially in children.
I also have no idea what car crashes have to do with diseases. Now if you want to compare the regular flu to the Covid flu you have apples and apples. I am pretty sure people who contract the annual flu who have comorbidities are also more likely to die from it, aren’t you? But car crashes are not diseases they are accidents.
Also, if you took your Covid shots you should be protected, should you not? Then why is it your business if some other guy didn’t get his? Is he supposed to get a shot to protect you who already has a shot? If your shot isn’t working then neither will his! Again, big hole in the logic. You want 100 million other people to subject themselves to an unknown drug that has not protected you therefore won’t protect them either nor protect you from them. It’s ridiculous.
CarolAnn,
We mandate speed limits. By your ‘logic’, if a freedom-loving patriot wishes to drive at 100 mph in a school zone, that’s her inherent right that affects no one else. Government fascists are over-regulating her rights! She should take her case to SCOTUS.
I also know that if you get a Covid shot and die from it you died from the shot not the Covid. Thousands of people are doing just that. No morbidities necessary the shot kills them. Especially in children.
That’s a shocking claim. There is precious little evidence that anyone has died from Covid vaccination. Can you cite the evidence that Covid vaccinations are killing people? Especially in children. (BTW, we are aware of the VAERS).
Also, if you took your Covid shots you should be protected, should you not? You know the answer to that. No vaccine is 100% effective. In fact, refusing vaccinations against a communicable disease DOES affect others. Your cult professes a concern for Freedom!, but your actual objective is disruption of American society.
CarolAnn,
Have fun talking at Hairy, Jeff, and Zach. They don’t listen and they never say anything new. Just cut-paste from their talking points. Logic, history, and your statistics are all irrelevant to them. They will just produce their own. They know they aren’t convincing anyone. It seems their only purpose here is to get people to rage quit. I doubt they even read your responses other than a quick key word search to know what to cut-paste next.
I fully support Jeff’s freedom to sacrifice his own kids to demonstrate his loyalty and compliance with his masters. I am equally supportive of other people having the freedom to choose differently, for any reason they see fit.
Even if you think this particular vaccine is immensely valuable, you have to agree that it has risks, (as all medications do), and that the risk of the disease to children is nearly zero. You must also admit that the vax risk to children is at this time totally unknown, but certainly higher than the risk of the disease itself. I would never advise anyone to inject a child under 12 (or 13) (or some other arbitrary number) with this or any other untested treatment. This is the sort of thing a society does when it is desperate for survival. COVID was never that dangerous, not even for people with co-morbids.
The Vax mandates are silly. Mandating for children is criminally insane.
We fully support Porter’s freedom promoting perfesser hell’s tendency to make stupid comments.
All vaccinations carry risks just as all communicable diseases have risks. The crux is whether vaccination risks are worth the benefits. For smallpox, polio, tetanus, diphtheria, whooping cough, measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, Hep B, pneumococcus and others, we judge the benefits outweigh the risks. We do note the right-wing push to ban all mandated vaccinations.