What will you do now, Navy and Marines? What will you do now, Joint Chiefs?
Vaccine holdouts in Navy, Marines hit 19,000 as deadline passes to comply with mandate
As many as 19,000 active-duty Marines and Navy sailors chose not to get vaccinated against the coronavirus by their shared Nov. 28 deadline, a dilemma for military leaders who have threatened to expel personnel refusing to comply with the Biden administration’s mandate.
In both services, the number of holdouts is around 9,500, according to official counts. And while the Marines’ margin of 5 percent unvaccinated had been anticipated, it was an unexpected outcome for the Navy, which in announcing its final tally this week acknowledged that officials had uncovered last-minute “discrepancies” with its data-tracking system that revealed a larger pool of unvaccinated sailors than had been projected. As recently as last week, official data showed that 99.8 percent of sailors had at least one shot by last Sunday’s deadline. The true number is just over 97 percent.
These personnel now join more than 8,000 in the Air Force who declined to get vaccinated. In all three services, many are awaiting decisions on exemption requests, though officials have emphasized the number of permanent waivers granted was likely to be nominal. Army data shows four percent of its active force – about 19,000 soldiers – have not received any vaccine dose, with the compliance deadline of Dec. 15 now less than two weeks away.
It is a small percentage, but, trained manpower counts, especially in many specialties. And, it could effect recruitment, which is already problematic with all the Woke being pushed by high level commanders
The Marine Corps is the Defense Department’s least-vaccinated service. Marines who were not fully vaccinated by Sunday or did not have a pending exemption request soon will face administrative separation, Wood said. Commanders could punish but still retain some based on personal circumstances, such as a Marine who missed the deadline but now is on a path to becoming fully vaccinated.
Marines and sailors separated for vaccine refusal will receive general discharges under honorable conditions, barring other circumstances, according to official guidance. That status forbids access to some veterans benefits like the GI Bill, leaving lasting consequences for troops who decide to exit the service over the mandate.
They did their duty, voluntarily joined, and will now not get the benefits they earned for refusing to take an experimental shot (meanwhile, other government workers who’ve retired demand a raise in their retirement pay at taxpayer expense)
Austin on Tuesday outlined updated vaccine regulations specifically for National Guard members, including the loss of pay, training opportunities and eventually their military careers if they do not comply.
How many NG members will take their experience and simply leave/retire? How many will just refuse to join, taking a wellspring of experience away? If people want to take the chance and not be vaccinated, that’s on them.
It’d be nice if our federal government would be as tough on China for starting this whole thing as they are on our military members.
So, our employees in the gov’t (Marines and Navy) refused to follow lawful orders. Aren’t there legal remedies to that? Buh-bye.
Anyway, the TrumpVirus continues to ravage America and the rest of the world – nearly 2000 Americans are now dying every day – guaranteed to continue to rise with winter approaching.
If we’re lucky the 5 TIMES more transmissible IvankaVariant (aka omicron) will not be as virulent as the EricVariant (aka delta).
We were at a volleyball tournament last week, 20 courts, hundreds of players and spectators milling around for a few hours – we were some of the few wearing masks. The volleyballs will not be the only spikes to come out of the tourney.
We wish Teach and the nuCons good luck with their anti-vax/ anti-mask campaigns. Let’s hope no one they care about gets seriously ill.
A good friend who spend weeks along with her hubby in the hospital early in the pandemic (and is still an anti-vaxxer) asks for prayers almost weekly for friends of hers in the ICU on ventilators. Two weeks ago the prayers were not enough for one of her friends.
Good to see Rimjob is such a compassionate and caring dipshit.
#LetsGoBrandon
#FJB
Bwaha! Lolgf
He really is a nut job. I wonder if he is aware of how many vaccines the average soldier gets, much less if one is deployed. Seriously doubt he knows anything.
GRTX is now $1.28. No drugs in pipeline. One and only drug an absolute failure.
Let’s go Brandon.
. I wonder if he is aware of how many vaccines the average soldier gets, much less if one is deployed.
Well Rimjob claimed he joined the Army during the Vietnam War so he should know.
#LetsGoBrandon
#FJB
BWAHA! LOLGF
Your care and sympathy is overwhelming.
You do realize if you got the shot you can still get Covid.
You can still die from Covid.
You can still pass Covid to someone else.
Just like those of us who have not gotten the shot. There is no difference save one, if you got the shot chances are you will get a lesser case of Covid and a better chance of survival. Therefore, not getting the shot hurts no one but the individual who won’t get it.
There is one other fact. The only people who can die or be harmed by horrible reactions to the shot are those who get them. People who don’t get the shot are 100% safe from reactions or death caused by the shot itself. And still 98.9% safe from Covid. I’ll take my chances.
I love the way the compassionate leftists treat non vaxxed people the way Nazi’s treated Jews. Very American of them.
The anti-Covid vaccinations REDUCE your chances of contracting Covid, spreading Covid, being hospitalized from Covid and dying from Covid. Seems worthwhile.
These vaccines show no more AEs than other vaccines.
Brandon: leftists treat non-vaxxed people the way Nazi’s (sic) treated Jews
Nazis brutalized millions of Jews, Roma, gays, Russians, Poles, Catholics by stealing their possessions, murdering them, separating families, loading them in boxcars, sending them to concentration/work/death camps, murdering them, murdering them and murdering them. Millions of them. Men, women, children. So go fuck yourself.
Prove it, dipshit.
#LetsGoBrandon
#FJB
BWAHA! LOLGF
The esteemed Mr Dowd gets a bit simplistic in his history:
That was later, after the war started and gave them cover. Prior to the war, the Nazis did things like confiscate personally owned weapons from Jews (1934), then pass the Nuremberg Laws, which simply made economic life difficult for Jews. They had their own, brief shopping hours, while Gentile Germans had the rest of the day, businesses were encouraged to not serve Jews, and Jews were barred from many professions. Jews were not required to wear the yellow stars until 1939.
We haven’t gone full Third Reich, at least not yet, but those of us who actually know something about history can see the beginnings of it. Australia, a purportedly liberal Western democracy, has already taken to picking up people who test positive for COVID and exiling them to
concentration campsquarantine camps. They’ve even done so to people who tested negative, but been in contact with someone who was positive.All for a disease that 98%+ of those infected with it survive, and the vast majority of those who contract the virus don’t get sick enough for hospitalization.
Mr Dana justifies comparing vaccinations to save lives to the Nazi treatment of Jews.
That’s mega-whining even for a modern con.
Get a grip fellahs.
Elwood P. Dowd: The anti-Covid vaccinations REDUCE your chances of contracting Covid, spreading Covid, being hospitalized from Covid and dying from Covid. Seems worthwhile.
Thank you for finally admitting both vaxxed and unvaxxed can, and DO contract Covid. It’s about time you confessed to lying. Logic would dictate then (if there is any logic in leftism) that since both can contract and spread Covid whether or not one is vaxxed is a personal, not state matter.
Nothing says “Trust the science” like “we can’t tell you what’s in it and you can’t sue if something goes wrong”.
You need to be aware the Nazi’s (true blue socialists like yourself) didn’t start out murdering millions or putting them in concentration camps. They started by making them second class citizens, denying them the same treatment as others, denying them the respect of human beings (like when you say “so go fuck yourself”), denied them even food and medical treatment. Made them carry Covid passport-like ID papers just like you leftists are doing or want to do to perfectly reasonable Americans who do not want to comply to your one size fits all no regard for immunity mandates.
When you say something like this: So go fuck yourself, you show how low class you are. Are you 10 years old? We can have disputes without going crazy but you leftists can’t. I now see how a pathetic, vile person like you would disrespect and insult the children of a female commenter and call someone’s wife a whore. You really are low. Despicably so.
Do all you leftists have an inert need to demand other people live by only your rules or die? Seems to be a basic tenet among the leftist socialists, communists, Nazis and others. Why can’t you mind your own business?
You socialists always revert to:
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Elwood and Zach…the same person from what I can see and Hairy all are doing a great disservice to their party and their leftist ideology by coming here daily and railing against the right, calling the OP names and so on and so on and so on.
I am not saying they should not be here it is just the more people act like the walking dead for their cause the more it turns others off that are reeling from riots, looting, smash and grab, gun violence of epic proportions beyond schools. Inflation is out of control, rising gasoline prices that are an issue for people who cannot buy a battery car because they don’t make enough of them to sell and then there is fear that if you buy one you can’t get the juice to charge them because of the lefts incessant desire to kill fossil fuels.
so we have this:
President Joe Biden’s job approval rating is in free fall – and it’s not just Republicans saying so.
A recent USA TODAY/Suffolk Poll found 59% of voters disapprove of Biden’s job performance, while Vice President Kamala Harris’ approval rating sits at an embarrassing 28%. A stunning 46% of those surveyed believe Biden is doing a worse job as president than expected, including 16% who supported him at the ballot box last year.
Zombie,
The Z people are high school kids in a debate club. They are all exceptionally immature, lack in knowledge and intelligence. They are here in order to get their homework. When you refute one of their points, they put that in their file for debates. All of them are budding lawyers and somehow think that lawyers engage in debate. If you are a budding lawyer, the best way to train is to volunteer for work at a nursing home and work on stealing the life savings of the residents.
Elwood, or Jeff is a piece of dog manure. He is a pharmacologist and has doxed himself several times. He apparently loves to upset people and call them and their families names. Little that he says is truthful, but be careful as he likes to sue folks and has done so in his home town.
David or Porter: The Z people are high school kids in a debate club. They are all exceptionally immature, lack in knowledge and intelligence.
How embarrassing it must be for David Porter Dunning-Kruger to have immature high-school kids who lack knowledge and intelligence figuratively kick his and Teach’s asses on a daily basis?
David or Porter EATS pieces of dog manure. He claims to be a cardiologist but thinks Einthoven’s Triangle is a musical instrument. He thinks the Sino-Atrial Node is a hamlet in China. He once bragged about a new coat made of purkinje fibers. He apparently loves to upset people and call them names. Not a word he types is truthful including “and” and “the”.
Zombie,
There is the best demo of Jeff or Elwood. Nasty piece of work. Notice how he uses common medical terms to make it seem like he has some expertise in the medical world. That is far from the truth. Pharmacist have a bit of knowledge about drugs and counting pills, but zero knowledge of clinical medicine
The always bitching little David Porter whines again about others being nasty. LOL.
I should have said you think the Sino-Atrial Node is a bus stop in China. That’s a better joke. My apologies.
How about David Porter thinks Second Degree Heart Block is Tae Kwon Do move?
Zombie,
It’s an ongoing myth around here that commenters disagreeing with Teach are one person under various pseudonyms. Cons live a most cloistered life, reading and hearing primarily from the conservasphere, so it seems improbable that there could be more than one liberal! In addition, on many issues, there is one set of truths, so libs telling the truth sound alike to zombies and cons.
Cons like Zombie don’t like President Biden or liberal/progressive/Democratic policies. That’s to be expected. Cons like right-wing authoritarianism, the wealthy, white and male and christian privileges.
We used to think that Dems/libs and GOPs/cons wanted the same things… solid and productive families, education, good jobs, healthy environment… but had different ideas about how to get there. Today’s nuCons/nuGOPhers make it clear they want a white, christian, male plutocracy.
I think you protest too much.
A party that advocates for smash and grab and riots and looting and the burning of cities. A party that encourages the mass influx of illegals into our country and then are whisked around the country in jet airplanes by the government. A party that spends. Not only spends but binge spends. A party that wants you to be fearful by defunding the police. A party that wants to take away your guns while the world around them is violent and growing more violent by the day.
Covid. The next variant will kill you. Take a vaccine or die. Riots, looting, smash and grab. Defund the police. Shoot the police. Lock up those that defend themselves and release those that violently break the law only to break it again.
No my dear friend, you project too much. It is not the Republicans who want a white-christian, male plutocracy.
No it is the left/Democrats who want a violent, hatefilled, angry mob running the country whose sole function is to snuff out everyones hopes and dreams. Left and right.
This is why you and your party are losing at the ballot box on the local, state and national level in every state including blue states. It is not because at one time the democratic party had values and ideas? No its because by the party’s own admission they have no direction, no purpose and no vision other tha:
fear mongering and hate mongering while pretending the push back for all this by the right is the real hate mongering.
Once again you’ve managed to cause everyone who read your dribble to lose IQ points.
But your ability to ignore the truth, lie about the facts and project all your failings on others is a staggering act of mental gymnastics. Thank heaven we both agree on the slaughter of poor colored zygotes.
“drivel”…
You are correct about one thing… connies have few IQ points to spare.
Zygotes are not pigmented.
But sure, keep accusing others of lying.
The anti vaxxers are like the people who were against that authoritative Reagan’s seat belt mandate
” you can still die even if you wear a seat belt”
“My friend only survived thst accident because he was ejected from the car because he wasn’t wearing a seat belt”
“It’s my kid I should be the one to decide if he must wear a seat belt, not BIG GOVERNMENT”
And of course everyday we see new about one of the mostly peaceful anti maskers flipping out on planes getting ejected after causing plane delays
GOP used to be tge law and order party now edging closer to the party of everybody can do whatever they want, except for sex. That must be strictly controlled
And also the pRty that will spread and believe the most ridiculous things like BIDEN IS GOING TO GIVE EVERY SEPERATED ILLEGAL FAMILY $435000!!!!!
Remember that one? Who here never bothered to post anything about thst WHOPPER??
I heard it was $500000 if they agree to worship Satan
Sorry Hairy but the “anti maskers” are not the ones flipping out on planes. The flip out’s are the Karen’s going crazy cause someone is not wearing a mask. You be backward.
You are once again comparing a seat belt law with a forced INJECTION into a person’s private body of a foreign substance against their will. Not even close. Beside, seat belt laws are stupid. Why would you care if I wear a seat belt? Why would you care if I get a fake vax and wear a mask? Has nothing to do with you other than a fascist-like desire to control others. Not cool.
Hairy: GOP used to be tge law and order party now edging closer to the party of everybody can do whatever they want, except for sex. That must be strictly controlled
Exactly how can the GOP control sex? And why would they? You need to explain why you even think something that silly. You mean just because junta Brandon denied the plan to hand out $450k to these illegals you believe it? If he told you he would “never” mandate masks or vaccine shots that aren’t vaccines would you believe that too? Would you believe “just one more booster”? At what point do you stop believing a corrupt government that has spent the last 6 years lying to you about everything from Russia, Russia, Russia to two weeks to flatten the curve? Nobody but leftists could be that stupid.
Democratic party activists never need to explain why they believe something silly. As long as they believe the right silly things, from the current talking points, they are good.
It wasn’t the corrupt government. It was democratic party activists in the government, and in media, and in entertainment, and in academia. They don’t need to really believe their own propaganda to repeat it. If they repeat it often enough, it is the same thing as believing it.
California to give cash payments to immigrants hurt by virus
California will give cash payments to immigrants living in the country illegally who have been hurt by the coronavirus
By ADAM BEAM Associated Press
Democrats block GOP attempt to derail Biden’s $450,000 payments to illegal immigrants
Biden said no, yet the bill continues to wind its way through congress.
A handful of GOP Senators put forward legislation this Thursday to stop President Joe Biden’s plan to give as much as $450,000 to every illegal immigrant who broke the country’s laws and was then separated from a family member because of illegally entering the country.
The purpose of the left and their MSM counterparts is to lie, lie and lie some more. This hairy person seems to be the most disingenuous spreader of angry Karen speech I have ever seen on a blog. He posts one-liners that are at the very least misinformation. I mean seriously how many people get thrown off airplanes because of masks? 10? out of millions?
How many blacks kill blacks in Detroit and Chicago on a weekend? How many of the nearly 5 million new gun owners are going to vote for a democrat as they watch their police defunded and their towns burning and the VP raising bail for those thugs to be released?
Want some real news. Tune into other nations news programs as they bash the USA for their lunacy and watch as Putin masses 175,000 troops on the border of Ukraine and Chairman XI of China telling his people to prepare for Armageddon as he harshly punishes both Australia and prepares to invade Taiwan and Biden wanders the White house letting Jr. staffers with ZERO experience run the country.
Trash: Democrats block GOP attempt to derail Biden’s $450,000 payments to illegal immigrants
If the US loses the lawsuits, the costs could be much higher. Just another trump legacy.
If the US loses the lawsuits, the costs could be much higher. Just another trump legacy.
Do not care about losing a case in court. Simply paying them without a long and protracted legal battle just invites 100,000’s of thousand more to flee into this country further degrading the IQ of a country already struggling with mental midgets.
Again as I pointed out about this Hairy person. He said it is not happening. So I pointed out it is indeed happening, just that his MSM misinformation partners refuse to cover the truth and instead bury it with misinformation.
Your post reinforces my point and shows he is lying.
The left has only one card up its sleeve. Sue over everything. If you defend yourself. Sue the shit out of them. I have 2 million dollars of insurance against being sued because I conceal carry. If a bad guy rapes a girl on the train for 30 minutes while the rest of the train films it and I intercede. I will be arrested, charged with a crime, and then after all that is over the perp will sue me in civil court for defending a woman from a horrible raping.
This is the country the left wants. They let MS-13 into the country without a care in the world to start their own mafia, to pack mule drugs and to be as violent as possible. This is exactly why YOU and yours are losing this war against the right.
You pretend the right is racist while the left is trying to genocide white people. A class of people by definition makes the left the most racist thing on this planet since Hitler went after the jews and china is going after Muslims.
Trash: The left has only one card up its sleeve. Sue over everything.
Do conservatives/righties never sue? It’s my recollection that DJ Don has filed a few lawsuits. His lawyers (Powell, Giuliani, Wood, Ellis) filed dozens of lawsuits. Devin Nunes sued over a website about a cow.
The right is racist and the left is not committing genocide (The Great Replacement!).
And again with equating the libs with Hitler? Talk about your fascistic projection.
So will the girl. And she likely voted for the conditions that led to her treatment. Females who ride trains are almost certainly democrats and militantly so. If she isn’t willing to carry her own gun and take the steps needed to prepare herself, what gives you the right to interfere in the consequences she has chosen for herself?
If you feel bad about what is happening to her, you should politely ask the perp to “finish up” so you can get back to reading your paper.
If the suit is lost, Congress could refuse to pay.
One thing not mentioned in the article, and the “discussion” above, is the cost of the training of the personnel that may be discharged for non-submission. In the early 1970’s my job was computed to cost the Navy about a quarter of a million (1970) dollars. My B school started with over 300 sailors. Less than half graduated just for failing the courses. Losing 19,000 men and women these days is a much larger drain on the training budget. All for the lack of agreeing to be a lab rat.
They don’t care about training budgets or costs, they just print more money. Either we taxpayers pay in higher taxes or we pay in inflated prices which is basically the same thing. Can you name any leftist who understands economics from Marx to Krugman?
We are taking medical orders to inject our children with unvetted medicines by politicians. Everything today is partisan. We can’t get past it because we have a uniparty. The Democrats lie and the Republicans back them up. They’re all part of the same corrupt system. Ever since the election coup where the left stole it and the rest let them we’ve been in Never-Never Land. Where does the authority come from for politicians to close private businesses, unemploy people as “non-essentials”, force people to wear masks even as the proof is in it doesn’t matter, get fake vaccines they don’t want and then prosecute the laws based on people’s political persuasion.?
We’re being ruled by an illegal junta that hates us. Especially if you’re white, Christian, a Trump voter and a gun owner. And Professor Hale is correct. The loony left just keeps repeating the same mantra over and over and they convince themselves it’s all real. They’re idiots. Then they finally axe some leftist pig like Andrew Cuomo they axe him for impropriety with women when the guy literally killed at least 10,000 elderly citizens in homes but that’s okay. The left has anesthetized itself against killing people with decades of the elimination of black and brown babies through abortion. They care nothing about life at all. So a few thousand geriatrics are as Stalin would say just statistics.
Notice how fast the black supremacist/black nationalist who murdered and maimed all those white folks at a Christmas parade faded from the news? Who cares, they were just fly-over white trash deplorables. Nothing to see there. Ask any leftist. But they’ll spend three weeks and $10 million to finally find Pussy Smolette not guilty of faking his own hate crime. Because equity.
Well said.
We live in interesting times, for certain.
Notice how fast the black supremacist/black nationalist who murdered and maimed all those white folks at a Christmas parade faded from the news?
The simple truth as I pointed out above is the left has become the most racist group of people on the planet. They are quite literally attempting to genocide the entire white race which is a minority on this planet.
They also have embarked on a genocidal mission against their own supposed supporters. Women and Blacks. Especially blacks who they have herded onto plantations called inner city projects, taken every ounce of dignity from them and encourage them to abort every baby that comes along, while telling the man in any black womans life that they don’t matter and are unimportant.
It is because black men do not vote. But black women vote in record numbers. To keep that welfare check coming.
It is pathetic but slowly these poor unfortunate souls are beginning to wake up as more and more blacks take to activism on behalf of anything but the democratic party.
Black men do not vote because they do not get welfare checks and housing and all the benefits that black women get.
Black men face hopelessness in the projects and it is why many of them turn to crime, drugs, and a nonproductive life. The left has told them they do not matter and unfortunately, the Right has not embraced them.
Until these last few years where the GOP(led by Trump now) is actually attempting to reach out to Hispanics and blacks and people of color with a message that is no longer etched in the establishmentarianism of Gop (AKA Democratic Lite) doctrine.
The right now stands for something. Pro police, Pro Law and order, Pro-life, Pro 2A, Pro 1A, Pro Hispanic and black communities, Pro Education, Pro family, Pro-Choice on vaccinations.