Black Farmers Sue Feds Over Loss Of Promised Debt Relief

Well, Democrats sure made a mess of this with their virtue signaling

‘We’re facing extinction’: Minority farmers sue government over scrapped plan to give $5B in aid

John Boyd Jr., who has been a farmer for over 40 years, said Wednesday that the promises made in the American Rescue Plan Act gave farmers of color hope and finally addressed the racial injustices Black farmers have experienced for decades.

But when President Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 (IRA) into law in August, the legislation repealed Section 1005 of the ARPA, directly affecting farmers of color.

Whoops! Probably should have read the legislation, considered the implications of what it would do, prior to voting on it

In a statement Wednesday, the Department of Agriculture said they were prepared to provide funding to farmers of color under the American Rescue Plan Act, but court challenges to the program prevented the government from providing the payments.

“USDA strongly supported the ARPA Section 1005 program and was ready to make payments to direct-loan borrowers. However, the $5 billion that was intended to help farmers was frozen by three nationwide injunctions that prevented USDA from getting payments out the door. The government vigorously defended this program in the courts but because of these injunctions, the $5 billion provided in ARPA remained frozen. This litigation would likely have not been resolved for years,” Marissa Perry, Department of Agriculture press secretary, told Yahoo News.

Court challenges, eh? I wonder why

In response, midwestern white farmers filed a lawsuit against the federal government, claiming that ARPA was discriminatory because they couldn’t participate in it. The plaintiffs of the suit included farmers from Ohio, Wisconsin, South Dakota and Ohio, according to ABC News.

“Were [the] plaintiffs eligible for the loan forgiveness benefit, they would have the opportunity to make additional investments in their property, expand their farms, purchase equipment and supplies, and otherwise support their families and local communities,” the lawsuit said. “Because [the] plaintiffs are ineligible to even apply for the program solely due to their race, they have been denied the equal protection of the law and therefore suffered harm.”

Yeah, it violated the Constitution. While there may be some racism in modern farming, most is simply perceived, meaning, it’s not happening, it’s just business. The IRA, which does nothing to reduce inflation, now allows any to apply based on social justice perceived discrimination.

While farmers of color have been disadvantaged for decades, the new debt relief does not solely focus on Black, American Indian, Hispanic, Alaskan native, Asian American and Pacific Islander farmers.

“They believed the U.S. government’s promises. They took Congress and the administration at their word, expecting that the government would pay off their debt, as the USDA promised in writing. Instead, it was 40 acres and a mule all over again, 150 years later — broken promises that doomed generations of Black farmers to become sharecroppers and robbed Black families of billions in intergenerational wealth,” Crump said.

In other words, it’s reparations for things that happened a long time ago to other people. Nowhere in this story does it lay out what those racial injustices are, other than the 40 acres and a mule thing from back just after the Civil War.

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35 Responses to “Black Farmers Sue Feds Over Loss Of Promised Debt Relief”

  1. L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon! says:

    What the regime has always argued is that White people have dominated the world due to dumb luck and their unique cruelty. Whether it is the exploitation of resources held by nonwhites or simply good fortune, Europeans have unfairly outperformed the rest of the world and this is immoral. Therefore, it is required that current White people be made to suffer in order to balance the scales. This is the moral claim made in all policies under the umbrella of restorative justice and the centerpiece of democommie hate toward Whites.

    One way to even the scales is to force Whites to accept nonwhites into their lives so that the nonwhites can partake in the good fortune of whites. In education, for example, the underlying assumption is the teachers in White schools do a better job teaching their subjects than the teachers in nonwhite schools. The proof is Asians, who prefer White schools over black schools. Asians do very well, so it must be that special magic that exists in White schools, but not in black schools.

    You see, while we human beings and citizens enjoy the absolute right of free association, our government does not have that right. Otherwise, it is not our government and is instead an occupying force. Foundational to liberal society is free association and that means we collectively own the state. As equal partners in the state, the state cannot favor one group over another. Again, equality before the law is a bedrock item in a moral society. But modern democommies and leftist radicals are anything but moral. To them morality is something we evil Christians use to beat down those wonderful minorities that add to the great tapestry that is our America (spit).

    It’s strange to think there was a time when Barry Goldwater — a Republican conservative and a member of the Arizona NAACP, by the way — could oppose the 1964 Civil Rights Act on libertarian, freedom-of-association grounds even as a majority of democrats objected purely out of racial hatred of blacks. Few of today’s so-called conservatives have the stones to even utter the words “freedom of association.” It appears that the concept is entirely foreign to most of them. And these are the clowns who fashion themselves the guardians of liberty. What a farce! That’s why it’s amusing when turds like dowd insist on calling us gopers. We are the New Vanguard of American Patriots not has-been leftist lite Bush Republicans.

    I have more respect for progressives: at least they let you know from the get-go that they oppose our natural rights with a ferocity, they want to kill us, our families, steal our property and erase our country and that we better take seriously. Conservatives are “allies” we can’t afford to have.

    MAGA

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Luther copied this from somewhere. It was clearly written by someone with familiarity of the English language.

      Here’s the common thread with the far-right: it is not our government and is instead an occupying force

      According to the nuRight, pposing white supremacy makes the US government an occupying force, oppressing the white men who built all that is good about Europe and America.

      “Straight” white, christian men now whine incessantly because “the other” demands equal rights. It’s always been so. When women, natives, blacks, non-christians, gays, non-white foreigners demanded fair treatment white men went bat-scheisse crazy. Time and time again.

      Conservative white men are terrified of being “replaced”, or more correctly, of having to “share” America. That’s why they’ve turned to a vile authoritarian like pedoDon tRump who made no secret of his intent. But understand that pedoDon is largely non-ideological – his goal has always been to protect himself and he saw the American right as a willing shield.

      • L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon! says:

        “The other” has had equal rights since 1964 thanks to us Republicans. Don’t force your slavery/Jim Crow guilt on us you fukin liar.

        Of course we don’t want to be replaced, do you? But that’s not our point. Our point is we don’t want people like you, people who hate America, people who hate Whites because they’re white, people who hate Christians and people of faith to replace America. We happen to believe we created the greatest country in history and the forces of darkness is destroying it.

        People like you, narrow minded haters of all things American, white and Christian don’t want to give others “equality” you want to destroy the rest of us to give undeserving thugs and morons “equity”. Not the same thing. You already control just about everything but constantly bitch about us wanting to participate.

        You are a selfish, immoral bully and that’s all you and your disgusting sort will ever be.

        We have become “The Other” by discrimination, separatism and White apartheid. The left was and always will be enslavers of others be they black or White, indian or Christian. You lefties will always try and find a way to enslave others. It’s your sole purpose for existing.

        MAGA , you fool.

  2. Professor Hale says:

    I guess farmers will just have to go back to … farming… to make money.

  3. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    While on average blacks make about 60% of whites, the difference in wealth accumulation is staggering. In 2016, white families had average wealth of $171,000 and black families only $17,000.

    The difference in household incomes is cumulative, that is, it existed for decades if not forever. The right-wing blames exclusively blacks (although recently they blame liberals!), while progressives blame exclusively systemic racism. Progressives are more right than wingers in this regard.

    White farmers sued the government because poor black* farmers were offered help after several decades of discrimination.

    *Actually Black, American Indian, Hispanic, Alaskan native, Asian American or Pacific Islander.

    • CarolAnn says:

      “Progressives are more right than wingers in this regard.” Says the guy from the party of slavery, separate but equal, Jim Crow (Now Jim Snow) and the KKK.

      We don’t need race lessons from you slavers and racists any more than we need your Bible quotes. Go sell your bullshit somewhere else you’ve worn out your crap here.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        CarolAnn,

        You’re somewhat, a little bit confused about history. Do you really think slavery, Jim Crow and the KKK sprang from liberals/progressives? Were the confederate rebels fighting to maintain slavery liberals? Surely you can’t be serious. LOL.

        But we fully understand your discomfort upon hearing the truth about the right-wing authoritarianism infestation in America. The last thing any winger wants is to be urged to think or to acknowledge their faults.

        Perhaps you can lobby Mr Teach to have me banned/cancelled from the site!

        • CarolAnn says:

          Must be time for you to beat up women again. L’Roy is safe for a while.

          No, you’re confused about history. Or just a liar. It was the democrats who owned the slaves, promoted the KKK, etcetera and you know it. Don’t try and switch from democrats to progressives cause that dog won’t hunt. IT’s your party…OWN IT!

          When you say right wing authoritarian exactly what authority are you referring to? Did they force people to close their business, loose their jobs, violate their faith or take a fake shot of fake vaccine? No that was you. Did they burn down 126 cities causing billions in damage and 30 murders? No that was you again. Are they raiding the homes, businesses and persons of political opponents? No, once again that’s you. We could go on for several pages but I weary typing for an internet troll who demands we bend to his wishes. Sorry ain’t playing your game any more.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            CarolAnn,

            So, you play the weak girl card when your nonsense gets criticized? Boohoo.

            You may have me confused with someone who was alive during the Civil War and Jim Crow. As you’ve been schooled several times, you must realize that southern conservatives abandoned the Dems when the party supported civil rights over half a century ago.

            And it’s now the Republican Party attempting to overturn the election and install an authoritarian government. It’s the Republican Party forcing 10 year old girls to give birth. It’s the Republican Party that supports Russia, China and Saudi Arabia. It’s the Republican Party attempting to end democracy. It’s the Republican Party that has become the MAGAt Party.

            Are you really this ignorant or are you just this bull-headed?

            And by all means ignore what I type. You have nothing to add except invective, lies, ignorance and denial.

  4. Jl says:

    “Progressives are right in this regard..”.
    No they aren’t, first if all because as usual you have no evidence that income inequality is race-based. As said before, a much better indication would be single parent households, due to the 70-75% illegitimacy rate of black culture.
    And sorry, but they’ve been going to the same schools for decades yet they still lag behind in test scores. Oh wait-I forgot. That must be because tests are “racist”…

    • L'Roy White says:

      No, Jl. It’s because the racist leftist democrats will not allow us school choice, vouchers or give us good teachers. All we get are the affirmative action teachers and zero help from those “compassionate” democrats.
      If the money followed the student we could get a better education for our children who survive the abortion mills, drugs and gangs imported by biden and his henchmen.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Mr White,

        So, abortions, drugs and gangs originated with President Biden?

        In fact, the incidence of abortions has been decreasing since the peak in the 1980s. For some reason, abortions increase when GOPhers are president.

        And the biggest jump in drug overdose deaths occurred become President Biden took office. See deaths by year below. Note deaths had doubled by 2020.

        2009 37,004
        2010 38,329
        2011 41,340
        2012 41,502
        2013 43,982
        2014 47,055
        2015 52,404
        2016 63,632
        2017 70,237
        2018 67,367
        2019 70,630
        2020 91,799

        And gangs? Violent big city gangs were around before 2021.

        • L'Roy White says:

          L.G. Brandon is right, you really do make up your own “facts”. I never said “abortions, drugs and gangs originated with president biden?”. All of that stuff was around before pedo joe was installed president. But Old pedo was around for 48 years in Congress and he obviously didn’t do anything about them then. He’s a liar and you’re an enabler.

          The biggest jump in drug overdoses occurred because the left (that would be you and your commie politicians along with pedo) refused to stop the flow of fentanyl by closing our border like any normal free nation on earth. You commies are all worried about Putin crossing Ukraine border but as far as you are concerned ours is open to the scum of the earth. You are always throwing up cherry picked “facts” out of context and thing we buy that crap[. Well, we don’t. Not even dumb black men like me.

          I’m tired of smart assed white leftists like you talking down to us black folk and acting like we can’t tend to ourselves. You’ve kept us down for centuries and its gotta stop. I want my freedom. From the leftist democrat plantation and the welfare state. You guys destroy everything you touch from education to the military and now is the time to begin stopping you.

          Vote hard and vote often and burry the commies within!

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Mr White,

            You typed, “abortion mills, drugs and gangs imported by biden”, word for word.

            Senator Biden was flogged by progressives for his support of the 1994 Crime Bill.

            Biden: In the 1980s and 1990s violent crime was out of control. The crime bill was designed to deal with that problem. That’s why it was supported overwhelmingly by the Democratic Party, by African American leaders all across the nation, including a majority of the black caucus in the Congress.

            In fact, violent crime DID decrease greatly after the bill was passed (but not necessarily as a result of the bill). Crime peaked in the late 80s-early 90s and has been dropping since, until the recent uptick in 2020-2021.

            YOU’RE the one denigrating black people, claiming they’re not smart enough to know whom to vote for. By all means, campaign for trump and other right-wingers. Are you really claiming that black people are easily duped those slick Dems?

            By all means, if you can persuade people to vote for dumbass Repubs, do it. I for one will accept the outcome of the election if your side wins and not try to overturn the government. I believe in American democracy and hope that you do too.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Mr White,

            You’re not ignorant because of pigment, any more than CarolAnn is ignorant from being female. You’re both ignorant from conservatism. Today, NuCon membership requires believing things that are simpply not true – Deep State stuff, election denial, global warming denial, Covid denial, deadly vaccines, massive conspiracies, fertilized eggs are persons, etc. No wonder it’s difficult for nuCons to discern fact from fantasy today.

            At one time conservative Republicans were knowledgeable, even smart, but no more. True conservatives are fleeing the Republican Party (which has become The MAGAt Party). Gone are the likes of George H.W. Bush, George Will, Bill Buckley, Liz Cheney… true conservatives but not MAGAts. Will your party survive trumpism? It’s not looking good.

  5. CarolAnn says:

    I’m not playing the weak girl, just pointing out you gave L’roy a break from your racist rants for a while. You are free to say what you want you me just like when you call people’s wives whores and make other filthy low-life comments. We have come to expect them. That’s all you’ve got.

    You are a democommie and they were the ones who rebelled against the US just like you are doing today with your “fundamental transformation”. Once again you stupid mind-numbed fool nobody tried to overturn an election except in your dreams. All we want is an audit and an investigation and we hav produced over 300 instances of corruption as evidence one is needed. You hate America so much you won’t even consider it. You have stolen an election and have the balls to call US insurrectionists?

    Neither the Republican party nor any conservative I’ve seen has stated they want to FORCE 10 year olds to have babies. But we have seen the slaughter of MILLIONS of American babies by commie ghouls like you over the years. DOCUMENTED! So again, you lie.

    The Republican party does not “support” Russia, China and SA. Where have you heard that from? But it is just about every democommie taking $$$$ from those players. Or is the bidens millions just a mirage?

    The Republican party is just as bad as the democommie party. Your problem is you still think there’s a difference. There isn’t.

    But you go on and keep projecting your hate, racism, bigotry and pro communist ideas and we’ll be sure to thank you when DeSantis wins in 2024. In fact, if you democommies stick with the shit you’ve been doing DeSantis may not even need to campaign to wipe you fuckers out!

    BTW, if you hate Make America Great Again you are the enemy of America, not us. Stupid

    MAGA, you maggot.

    • The Liberal but not libertarian Elwood P. Dowd says:

      OBSESSION! by CarolAnn

      You don’t want to engage, yet there you go again.

  6. Jl says:

    “Republicans support China, Russia, Saudi Arabia…” That global warming heat must be really getting to J’s brain. It’s Brandon farming out our energy needs to China-they build most of the solar panels and mine most of the Lithium. Trump made us almost energy independent and built up out military. Trump also tried to lessen the trade imbalance between the US and China. The imbalance was definitely in China’s favor. Only in the mind of a lib would those be considered pro-Russia or pro China. They’re obviously anti-Russia and anti-China.
    It was grandpa Brandon that went to his friends the Saudis for more oil, not Republicans, after he screwed up our oil production. But I get it now-US oil bad, Saudi oil good. Apparently the Saudi’s CO2 isn’t as “dangerous” as ours. …
    But hilarious-“attempting to over-turn an election and install an authoritarian government..” Did John give you his bong? We told him not to, and look what’s happened. Is the alleged overturning sorta like the libs trying to overturn the 2016 election through the BS “Russian collusion” hoax or later through attempted impeachment? I thought so. The lack of self awareness is astounding in these clowns…

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Jill,

      Trump did not make us almost energy independent. All you do is to repeat pedoDon’s lies.

      US oil production has increased since trump was cancelled.

      Congress investigated trump’s cozy and inappropriate relationship with Russia, although he was not prosecuted nor impeached for it. PedoDon WAS impeached twice, once for trying to coerce Ukraine into launching an investigation into his 2020 opponent, and then for engineering the assault on the US Capitol in an attempt to stop the certification of the election that he lost by several million votes.

      When finally he left the White House he illegally took boxes of US government documents, some classified, and refused to return them to the American people. He told associates he wanted to use them as leverage to force the national archives to release files exonerating him in the Russia case. Any other American would have been arrested.

      • drowningpuppies says:

        Funny. Rimjob posts his personal fantasies concerning President Trump that are erroneous and easily refuted.
        https://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cry.gif

        • L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon! says:

          He really has an active imagination. But that’s part of his psychotic cuteness. We never know what bullshit he’ll come up with. And he states it with such authority if one was disposed to psychotic fantasy it still wouldn’yt be believable.

          We think the doowd sits in his basement masturbating to Trump posters. It must be sexual with dowd as he refuses to admit Trump isn’t pres any more the insane pedo, racist, nazi lover and daughter rapist is.

          pedo is the candidate so bad he had to be “installed” cause for 48 years he couldn’t get elected and he tried several times.

          MAGA

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            President Biden won the election in a landslide over that loser, PedoDon tRump.

            Mr Biden received 306 EC votes to PedoDon’s 232. Only 270 EC votes are needed for victory in our system biased toward conservatives. President Biden received over 7 MILLION more votes than loser, PedoDon.

            In fairness to conservatives, most Americans voted AGAINST PedoDon as much as FOR President Biden. Even Hillary would have trounced PedoDon in 2020.

            Luther, who admitted to “knocking up” at least two girls causing them to get abortions, fantasizes about others sexually. We suspect Luther sits in his basement masturbating to tRump posters, but that’s better than knocking up teenagers and having them get abortions.

          • david7134 says:

            Agree, at first I thought he was being his repulsive self, but he is so consistent he may believe that crap. I am visiting in SF right now. Real crap of a place. But turned on the TV and it was on the local news. Can not believe the absolute stupidity of these people. They were discussing the ban on cars that has been instituted and somehow feel that is such a great thing. They really can not think, much like Jeff.

      • Jl says:

        J is still the best at leveling assertions with no evidence. “Trumps’s inappropriate relationship with Russia”. Good one-who gets to define inappropriate? No evidence of that or you’d produce it. Engineering the assault on the US capital.” No evidence of that either, or you’d produce it. No evidence for “coercing Ukraine, or you’d produce it . “Illegally took boxes of US government documents…” No evidence of that so far, though that’s not what we were talking about, now was it? “Impeached twice”. Never convicted, twice.
        J simply takes one post filled with unsupported assumptions, and then uses more unsupported assumptions to defend his first post.
        No surprise then, that he easily fits right in with the church of global warming

        • L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon! says:

          However, Jl you gotta admit the idiot is entertaining. He has to be a paid troll to carp on the same shit month after month, year after year.

          But he’s gonna have an awakining when Trump “testifies” at the Jan 6 scamtrial. Trump’s gonna rip those commies a new one. They’ll be sorry they even considered him testifying.

          That Red Wave? Get ready for a Red Tsunami! The hateful, racist anti American left knows they screwed the pooch (don’t tell Hunter or he’ll want that too).

          MAGA, fellow patriots.

          • Professor Hale says:

            He doesn’t need to be paid. There are millions of people out there whose party loyalty drives them to support the team at every chance, and their personal free time to roam the internets gives them the opportunity to approach this like a paid full time job. It is the same as retirees doing volunteer work in their churches. He doesn’t need to believe what he is saying. He only needs to have unquestioned loyalty to the party and be willing to say whatever is needed. To me, it looks just like North Koreans telling you how awesome Kim is and that he doesn’t even need to poop.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            LOL. Americans can only hope PedoDon testifies under oath.

            Luther typed: Trump’s gonna rip those commies a new one.

            LOL. Don’t forget the “under oath” part. Lying to Congress is a felony. And he won’t be able to pardon himself.

            He has two options. Refuse or accept and plead the 5th repeatedly.

            We understand that MAGAts revere PedoDon as a god-like creature, but he sacrifices underlings rather than stand up like a man. His lawyers, accountants, campaign underlings and associates go to jail. PedoDon pays fines. PedoDon is smart and cagey, just like a mafia Don.

            It’s likely PedoDon will be indicted for stealing classified documents. How will the MAGAts respond?

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          Jill,

          Our justice system gets to define what is inappropriate. We know, we know… “Thuh Deep State!”

          Unsupported??

          Jill may have missed that several tRump associates either pleaded guilty, were convicted or were indicted for f’ing around with Russia as they tried to get tRump elected.

          George Papadopoulos, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn, 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies, Richard Pinedo, Alex van der Zwaan, Konstantin Kilimnik, 12 Russian GRU officers, Michael Cohen, Roger Stone.

          Jill may have also missed Donald Trump Jr’s Trump Tower meeting with Russian operatives to get “dirt” on Hillary Clinton. Participants were Trump Jr, Kushner, Manafort, Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, Russian-American Rinat Akhmetshin (lobbyist and alleged former KGB agent), plus translators and other weasels.

          Trump Jr.’s lawyer said Veselnitskaya had claimed to have information “that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Mrs. Clinton…”

          She didn’t have that information but that was why Jr took the meeting.

          Russia worked hard to get tRump elected, and tRump’s people helped them.

          Unsupported??

          The FBI had to obtain a search warrant to retrieve boxes of US documents that tRump had taken and refused to return. The FBI retrieved many of those documents, but perhaps not all. The investigation is ongoing and is not going well for the ex-president.

          Unsupported??

          On a telephone call to Ukrainian President Zelensky, tRump asked him to investigate the Bidens, and even Hillary, in exchange for releasing military funds.

          tRump: “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it. It sounds horrible to me.”

          tRump: “I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server, they say Ukraine has it.”

          tRump: “I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time.”

          Asked why the administration had withheld $400 million in military aid allocated by Congress to help Ukraine defend itself from Russian aggression, Mulvaney first cited the president’s desire to make sure Kiev’s government was not corrupt. Then, confirming a quid pro quo laid out in the partial summary released by the White House of Trump’s July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Mulvaney cited a conspiracy theory involving the DNC server that housed emails leaked during the 2016 campaign.

          “That’s a nice little country you have there; it’d be a shame if anything were to happen to it”.

  7. Jl says:

    J, your mind is slipping more than I thought. “Several Trump associated plead guilty…” That would be those associates, not Trump, correct? Good one-“Trump Jr. meeting with..”. Uh, that’s not Trump, and it’s different than Hunter meeting with the Chinese…how? Did I miss where Trump was convicted of anything? No. “Trump asked him to investigate…in exchange for military funds for Ukraine”
    Wait-I thought Trump was for Russia! Can’t get your story straight there, J? But as opposed to NY District Attorneys, the FBI, ect, being asked to investigate Trump? I see. “Russia worked hard to getTrump elected”. You still have absolutely no evidence of that, neither did a 2 year, multi- million dollar investigation, now did it?? Gee, why did Brandon beg the Saudis for more oil with the mid-terms coming up? Maybe help with the elections? Nah, it must be because Joe just loves himself some fossil fuels, right?
    But the best part of your again unsupported assumptions is the fact that if Russia allegedly help Trump in 2016 (with no evidence), why wouldn’t they help him in 2020? Your “story” continually falls flat on its face..Keep trying, J, maybe you’ll come up with something ..

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Jill,

      So, Jill, your defense of PedoDon is that his underlings did all the dirty work; that his campaign cooperated with the Russians, but The Don did not. LOL. The lieutenants of mobsters Gotti and Capone went down before The Dons did.

      Jill, above all else, Donald J tRump is a weak, weak man and a coward. His lawyers, accountants, underlings, associates and aides take the fall for him… so far. He would even sacrifice his own children to avoid responsibility for his actions.

      Jill, deny the truth all you want, the facts don’t lie.

      What you miss, Jill, is that Donald J tRump is mono-moral – Don J always comes first. He withheld military funds from Ukraine to coerce them to investigate the Bidens. How does that fact lessen his fealty to Russia and Putin?

      You need try harder to give your arguments internal consistency, Jill.

  8. L.G.Brandon!, L.G.Brandon! says:

    Jl, this clown has been repeating the same communist propaganda for years here. Even after it has been proven the “Steele dossier” was paid for by Hillary and the DNC he continues to repeat the lies. Even after the Mueller investigation found nothing on Trump he repeats the lies, Even after two impeachments were unable to convict Trump of malfeasance of any sort he repeats the lies.

    I can’t tell any more who is the more impaired, pedo joe, Fetterbump or dowd. They all operate in a universe wherein they think the rest of us actually believe their shit without question and of course, we’re all stupid like the pedo followers they’re used to talking to.

    they are without a doubt the most self unaware group of morons ever assembled by the democommie party.

    That arrogance is going to cost them and their party, and it’s going to be a glorious meltdown to witness. November can’t get here soon enough, both for the entertainment factor and the fact that I’m not sure the country’s economy can survive much longer with democommies at the helm.

    MAGA

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Luther,

      We wish MAGAts WOULD argue with facts and ideas, but alas, we think you are incapable of that.

  9. CarolAnn says:

    Elwood is like those two stupid dykes who threw Heinz (aka Kerry) soup on a van Gogh to protest? A bunch of childish kno-nothings throwing fits for attention.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      OBSESSION! by CarolAnn, LOL.

      Like most con-menters here, you express vituperation but never ideas. Why is that?

      Our hypothesis is that MAGAts such as you are in a cult and hate facts and truth just as vampires hate the Cross. LOL.

      • CarolAnn says:

        We’ll see how all your lies pan out in November. Would you recognise a fact if you saw one?

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