This just keeps getting better and better, considering Ukraine hasn’t even received any tanks yet and won’t for months. Meaning this war will just keep going and going
Ukraine sets sights on fighter jets after securing tank supplies
Ukraine will now push for Western fourth generation fighter jets such as the U.S. F-16 after securing supplies of main battle tanks, an adviser to Ukraine’s defence minister said.
Ukraine won a huge boost for its troops on Wednesday as Germany and the United States announced plans to provide heavy tanks for Kyiv, ending weeks of diplomatic deadlock on the issue.
“The next big hurdle will now be the fighter jets,” Yuriy Sak, who advises Defence Minister Oleksiy Reznikov, told Reuters by phone.
Ukraine’s Air Force has a fleet of ageing Soviet-era fighter jets that came off the assembly line before Kyiv even declared independence more than 31 years ago. The warplanes are used for intercept missions and to attack Russian positions.
“If we get them (Western fighter jets), the advantages on the battlefield will be just immense… It’s not just F-16s (U.S. multirole fighter jets): fourth generation aircraft, this is what we want.”
Pretty sure these would not be used for defense. How will Russia respond with NATO supplied fighter jets flying over and fighting over Russian territory?
Western military support has been vital for Kyiv and has rapidly evolved during the war. Before the invasion, even the idea of supplying lethal aid to Ukraine was highly controversial but Western supplies have since shattered taboo after taboo.
“They didn’t want to give us heavy artillery, then they did. They didn’t want to give us Himars systems, then they did. They didn’t want to give us tanks, now they’re giving us tanks. Apart from nuclear weapons, there is nothing left that we will not get,” Sak said.
It would take quite some time for pilots to be trained on the F-16s. How much longer do they expect this war to continue? What will this do to NATP military preparedness? Germany is down to barebones, the UK is down, the US is down. Hey, just wondering, it would be a total conspiracy theory to think that Russia is slow walking the war to destroy NATO stockpiles? Maybe with Zelensky’s help?
(Newsweek) German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock isn’t bashful about laying blame on Russia as its war in Ukraine surpasses 11 months.
Baerbock used a significant portion of her keynote address Tuesday at the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe in Strasbourg, France, to defend law, democracy and human rights in response to “Russia’s murderous attack on the people of Ukraine.”
“We are fighting a war against Russia and not against each other,” Baerbock said, according to the A News TV network.
Politicians are working to get us into WWIII
Highly unlikely. The delay in Russian victory from weeks to years is mostly attributable to Russia’s own incompetence in the field and the net effect of decades of corruption. Further exacerbated by Western arsenals.
The weakness in resulting Western arsenals is our own fault. Presidents, parliaments, congresses and defense ministers have all neglected their military stockpiles for decades. Trump pointed that out but leftists hate Trump and hate him even more when he is right.
Funny you should mention Trump.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11671625/Trump-LEADS-Biden-three-points-2024-match-poll-showing-damage-documents-debacle.html
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Bwaha! Lolgf
Whether on purpose or not the end result appears the same.
And I’m sure that Vladimir Vladimirovich thinks the same thing.
Germany has 320 Leopard main battle tanks
They are planning on sending 14 to Ukraine.
Teach do you think that will leave Germany with a barebones stockpile.
Do you even ever bother to fact check Breitbart?
Proper analysis requires one to be more skeptical of that data that you WANT to believe.
Teach wants to believe that Putin is the genius that Trump labeled him. Teach wants to believe anything that shows the Ukraine war to be going badly.
If Putin is allowed to conquer Ukraine, which other country will be at the top of his to do list? Teach what other countries would you be willing to give up to him?
How the hell do you know how many tanks Germany has? Are you a professional politician? You know exactly what Germany allows you to know period. You buy every stupid assed stat any government throws out as long as it comports tp your commie narrative. You are a useful idiot, a fool, a knucklehead.
You do realize you, me and all of us are being lied to about the actual disposition of the war? Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are dead and masses have no heat, no electricity, no hospitals, no transportation, little food or water and the ZZelenskyyyy government is basically a dictatorship partially composed of Nazi’s. You have know idea of what is going on over there yet you believe the PROVEN LIARS in the American press.
This may show you the partial truth:https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1617799410007609348/2YVmJmP8?format=jpg&name=small
He Googled it and accepted the first number he saw. About 100 of Germany’s tanks (I googled it too) are not operational.
Mr H wrote:
And which American cities are you willing to give up to go to war with Russia? New York? Washington? San Francisco?
That, you see, is the question as far as I am concerned.
If the war goes badly for Russia, then Vladimir Putin gets pushed ever closer to the brink, and the unthinkable can suddenly become thinkable. After all, a bunch of conventional munitions might not be taking out that heavy mobilization of Ukrainian troops, but one small nuke just might do it . . . and nudge the US and NATO to ‘reconsider’ what they’ve been doing to help Ukraine. If he’s losing, is it not possible that President Putin would decide the only way to reverse fortunes is to cross that nuclear threshold?
Well, as long as it is just us internet heroes chewing the fat here…
Putin can afford to grind to a standstill in Ukraine and never consider going nuclear. His whole Army can be destroyed or mutiny and never consider nuclear. He has tons of options that are not included in this extreme. Just to name a few:
Assasinations of western “leaders” who support Ukraine.
Intimidations of families of same people.
Special operations against supply chains.
Targeted cyber attacks against western nations.
He could even ask for a negotiated settlement.
The problem here is that Joe Biden and his friends are treating the Ukraine like a LARP with 43 million NPCs. They don’t realize that the people of the Ukraine would have been MUCH better off if Russia has won in the first couple of months. As L’Roy alludes to, war is terrible thing, especially if it is happening to you in your home. There are no winners after that. I am sure they all take great comfort, if they are still alive, that Biden never backs down to a bully. Biden has made a painless decision for himself to safeguard family wealth at the expense of tens of thousands of lives. Good thing he doesn’t have long to live.
Russia’s goals are simple: Demilitarize Ukraine, safeguard the Russian people living in Donetsk, and expel the Nazis. If not for the USA, he would have succeeded. If the USA had not become a belligerent, we could have been the peacemaker in this. If Biden were not personally being enriched by aid money going to Ukraine, he could have forced Zaleski to settle peacefully.
Biden has declared war on Russia without the consent of the American People. Just like Hillary’s little adventure in Libya and Syria. What is it with Democrats that just can’t seem to get enough of killing other people’s children while they whine about how evil the NRA is for promoting gun safety? Oh, and I despise the Republicans who have gone along with this too.
Commenter:
And if China were to invade the US, the people of the US will be MUCH better off if China wins in a few months…
What silliness. Ukraine was no threat to Russia. There are more militant white nationalists in America than dangerous “Nazis” in Ukraine.
More silliness. There is no evidence that President Biden is being enriched by Ukraine. Ukraine could settle peacefully at any time by becoming part of Russia – it’s called surrender.
Peak silliness!! The US has the highest homicide rate of any advanced nation. Good work, NRA. And “safe” guns are used for more suicides than for homicide.
Mr Dana asks:
It’s a fair question. Also fair, is how far do you let a madman/bully go? Ukraine, Hungary, Poland, Finland, Norway, Austria, Germany, France, Italy, Turkey?
I’ve asked before. What is the safe solution to the Russian invasion of Ukraine (and the associated war crimes)?
Or for that matter how do you deter the aggression of any nuclear power? If Mutually Assured Destruction doesn’t work, what does?
Our sage from St Louis wrote:
Yup, yup, yup, yup, yup, yup, yup, yup, yup, yup!
No foreign country is worth tens of millions of Americans incinerated in nuclear fire.
It may be that nothing works. That might not be the answer for which you hoped, or one you liked, but committing national suicide isn’t a really great plan. MAD was meant to deter a nuclear attack, and even that was flawed. If the Soviets had launched a nuclear, but limited attack, that left the President with the option of launching a retaliatory attack, one which would probably get the USSR to launch the all-out attack, or accept the losses to avoid national suicide.
“No sir. It is not something a sane man would do.” — Soviet Ambassador Alexi DeSadeski, Dr Strangelove
Lol
It used to be back in the day the right wing were the tough guys.
But now they have turned into whiny bitch snowflakes ” if we let the big bully take what he wants, he will probably be satisfied and not hurt us(USA)
???? We have to do whatever Putin wants us to do,. He is crazy!
H thinks he’s scored a point:
It takes some pretty weird thinking to say that not wanting to risk national suicide means you aren’t tough.
If you are supporting this war, you may wonder why you find yourself on the same side as the WEF, the military industrial complex, the US and European Deep States, Big Tech, the entire Mainstream Media, the Biden Administration, the EU, and every Leftist in the world including those who comment here. If you find it odd to discover yourself supporting all the organizations, institutions and individuals that you otherwise find so odious, it is perhaps time to reassess your premises. You are perhaps being deceived. Nothing about this war serves America’s national interests.
The Ukraine is run by and full of Nazi’s. Ask a Ukrainian. I did.
Only American leftists can be that stupid. And only American leftists floated the line that Putin believed Ukraine was a threat. The threat was that WE kept trying to have Ukraine enter NATO and THAT IS a treat to Russia, just like missiles in Cuba were a threat to the US.
There you go again. Pedo Joe and his family have been enriched for years by and through Ukraine. Don’t start your “evidence” meme to obfuscate the obvious. This shits been going on for years and now you’re going to start denying the obvious. So your opinion is just surrender AFTER the US talked them into war? After they’ve lost 100,000 lives? After we’ve poured over 100 million$$$ into this shit hole full of Nazis? You leftists are just fabulous at international relations. Yes, that’s sarcasm.
America’s homicide rate has nothing to do with this fake drummed up war. It also has nothing to do with us siding with Nazi’s and mass murderers. you are once again, as usual trying to deflect with a logical fallacy. The NRA is also a straw man. The NRA protects your rights to own firearms we do not run wars.
Your entire comment is a red herring.
Read this. Try reading something from the other side for a change of pace. I know it will trigger you since it goes against your narrative but try it just for a change. You may learn something.
https://amgreatness.com/2023/01/26/inside-the-nazi-whitewash-of-ukraine/
For the record, MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) has not been the policy of the United States since the Reagan administration. Our current policy is “Flexible response”, or we will do what we think is appropriate should the need arise.
You all might remember (or google the Wiki if you need to), during the Bush administration, the USA unilaterally stopped targeting the USSR with ICBMs, thus making MAD less likely.
Nuclear weapons have such an undeserved evil reputation that no country is likely to use them, ever. The USA certainly will not use them again. The USA keeps them around as a jobs program for Nuke scientists at JPL, DoE, and MIT.