Remember, they said they weren’t coming for your gas stove, and then do everything to say your gas stove needs to go
A new study has found that gas-powered appliances can increase the levels of the chemical benzene, a known cancer-causing agent found in cigarette smoke, inside the home.
According to the Stanford-led study, which was published in Environmental Science & Technology, “indoor concentrations of benzene formed in the flames of gas stoves can be worse than average concentrations from secondhand smoke,” as a news release about the study explained.
While lawmakers, experts, and just about everyone else debate potential bans on gas stoves, consumers may want to block out the noise and consider switching to electric sooner rather than later.
Not only can energy-efficient electric appliances save homeowners a ton of money on their monthly energy bills, these appliances can also improve the air quality inside homes and mitigate potential health issues, especially among young children. Plus, with new tax breaks, these high-end appliances may be available at steeply discounted rates.
In other words, switch before government forces you to switch. Of course, government is already banning them for new construction in Democrat run states
In 29% of a subset of the cases examined, the study found that “a single gas burner on high or an oven set to 350 degrees Fahrenheit raised kitchen benzene concentrations above the upper range of indoor benzene concentrations attributable to secondhand tobacco smoke.”
Subset of how many? “We sampled 87 stoves in 14 counties in California and Colorado between January and December 2022.” 87 seems a pretty small sample. And the subset?
We quantified kitchen benzene concentrations after stove use in a 17-home subset of our emission factor sample (using 33 distinct burner and oven measurements; see methods). A single gas or propane burner on high or oven set to 350 °F for 45 min raised kitchen benzene concentrations above the baseline in every kitchen that we tested (Figure 2). This result suggests that gas stoves can contribute substantively to elevated benzene concentrations indoors. Additionally, in 9 of the 33 cases (29%), a single gas burner on high or an oven set to 350 °F raised kitchen benzene concentrations above the upper range of indoor benzene concentrations attributable to secondhand tobacco smoke (0.34–0.78 ppbv) (10) and above the median indoor benzene concentration measured in the US, Canada, Western Europe, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, and Australia (0.78 ppbv). (47)
That’s directly from the study. So, not many. Regardless, even if true, these climate cultists are really, really trying. They don’t care about your health, they care about the Doom they think comes from natural gas.
In Florida Gov Ron DeeSantis has ordered Florida public schools to also teach the BENEFITS afforded by benzene-induced cancer, not just the doom and gloom…
– lower total Social Security payouts,
– less crowded stores, schools, parks and highways,
– greater employment in oncology units,
– leukemia in childhood makes for more resilient, resourceful kids,
– parents of kids with leukemia gain valuable perspective and life skills
– cancer victims develop valuable skills, e.g., coping with pain, organizing insurance and
medical visits,
It’s much shorter for you so say “I have no argument, but look over HERE!”
In fact, you could re-use that endlessly, instead of struggling to find something to object to all the time.
You’re welcome.
Typical. Notice they found slightly elevated levels of Benzene, but didn’t correlate that to any higher incidence of cancer.
Jl joked: Notice they found slightly elevated levels of Benzene, but didn’t correlate that to any higher incidence of cancer.
Haha! Good one!
On the highly unlikely chance you were serious…
Benzene is a proven human and animal carcinogen (1). In Mr Teach’s linked article, Kashtan et al, 2023 (2), the authors properly state:
Are you challenging the US EPA, the WHO and the IARC decisions that benzene is a human carcinogen?
Are you suggesting the authors needed to re-prove that benzene is a human carcinogen?
Are you claiming the authors should have waited twenty years to see if any residents in the homes developed cancers?
We know, we know, those questions make your comment appear exceedingly stupid and we apologize in the likely event you were joking. My bad.
References:
1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1519582/pdf/envhper00370-0292.pdf
2. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/acs.est.2c09289
All this talk of the dangers of gas appliances.
I wonder how many Pedofacists have given up their gas stoves.
Probably zero.
You think gas stoves cause pedophilia? Interesting hypothesis. What model gas stove do you have?
No. Pedos gonna Pedo.
Maybe some stoves do cause brain damage. You sir are a glaring example of stupidity.
Dat So? i wonder who paid for the study? it always seems the the “Studies” produce the answers that the people who paid for them wanted. Besides, shouldn’t we be free to assess the risk ourselves?
Gee, no mention of who FUNDED the study. Wonder why? What’s their agenda? Don’t follow the science, follow the money. That’s where you’ll find the science.
Check the article, look in the Acknowledgements section.
Scientific articles always disclose how the work was funded.
Not too worried about Benzene. Spent 10 years overhauling aircraft fuel systems. None of the guys before my generation are unhealthy, not even the smokers. And, the guys before my generation were not exactly into Personal Protective Equipment. Employer fought against OSHA requirements. One oddity: most of us are now 65+, none of us have cholesterol issues.
Cigarettes cause cancer. Why not ban those? Oh wait. Big tax money. Huge tobacco lobby. Not part of dooms day scenario. Pardon me.
How do I convert propane to benzene?
The conversion of propane to benzene is a complex process that typically involves multiple chemical reactions and the use of specialized equipment and conditions. It is not something that can be easily done at home or by an individual without proper training and experience in the field of chemistry. It is also worth noting that benzene is a known carcinogen and its handling and use should be done with extreme caution and under the proper regulations. This process is typically done in a chemical plant by trained professionals.
Overall, the conversion of propane to benzene is a complex chemical process that requires specialized equipment, conditions, and expertise. It is typically done on an industrial scale by trained professionals in chemical plants. This is not something that normally occurs during the simple combustion of bropane in air.
I don’t think I have ever seen a patient with benzene induced cancer. But large concentrations of benzene are hell on your liver, I have seen that. If we are to believe this article, then we must get rid of cell phones as they have killed more people than benzene.
Physicians rarely know what causes a patient’s cancer.
What causes lung cancer in a non-smoker? 2nd hand smoke? Radon exposure? Workplace chemicals?
Most cancers have multiple triggers, that can be genetic and environmental (chemicals, radiation). Even in genetically identical animal studies not every animal exposed to a carcinogen develops cancer.
There have been dozens of epidemiological studies supporting the link between benzene exposure and blood cancers.
150. Vigliani, E. C., and Saita, G. Benzene and leukemia. N. Engl. J. Med. 217:
872-876 (1964).
151. Aksoy, M., Erdem, S., and Dincol, S. Leukemia in shoe workers exposed chronically to benzene. Blood 44: 837-841 (1974).
152. Infante, P., Rinsky, R., Wagoner, J., and Young, R. Leukemia in benzene
workers. Lancet ii: 76-78 (1977).
153. Goldstein, B. D., and Kipen, H. Lessons on the second cancers resulting
from cancer chemotherapy. In: Biological Reactive Intermediates IV (C.
M. Witmer, Ed.), Plenum Press, New York, 1990, pp. 619-625.
154. Aksoy, M., and Erdem, S. Follow-up study on the mortality and the
development of leukemia in 44 pancytopenic patients with chronic benzene
exposure. Blood 52: 285-292 (1978).
155. Aksoy, M., Dincol, K., Akgun, T., Erdem, S., and Dincol, G.
Haematological effects of chronic benzene poisoning in 217 workers. Br.
J. Ind. Med. 28: 296-302 (1971).
156. Wong, 0. An industry wide mortality study of chemical workers occupational exposed to benzene. I. General results. Br. J. Ind. Med. 44: 365-381
(1987a).
157. Wong. 0. An industry wide mortality study of chemical workers occupational exposed to benzene. II. Dose response analyses. Br. J. Ind. Med. 44:
382-395 (1987b).
158. Bond, G. G., McLaren, E. A., Baldwin, C. L., and Cook, R. R. An update of morality among chemical workers exposed to benzene. Br. J. Ind.
Med. 43: 685-691 (1986).
159. Yin, S. N.,.Li, G. L., Tain, F. D., Fu, N. I., Jin, C., Chen, Y. J., Luo, S.
J., Ye, P. Z., Zhang, J. Z., Wang, G. C., Zhang, X. C., Wu, H. N., and
Zhong, Q. C. Leukaemia in benzene workers: a retrospective cohort study.
Br. J. Ind. Med. 44: 124-128 (1987).
160. Rushton, L., and Alderson, M. R. A case-control study to investigate the
association between exposure to benzene and deaths from leukaemia in oil
refinery workers. Br. J. Cancer 43: 77-84 (1981).
161. Rinsky, R. A., Young, R. J., and Smith, A. B. Leukemia in benzene
workers. Am. J. Ind. Med. 2: 217-245 (1981).
162. Rinsky, R. A., Smith, A. B., Hornung, R., Filloon, T. G., Young, R. J.,
Okun, A. K., and Landrigan, P. J. Benzene and leukemia: an epidemiological risk assessment. N. Engl. J. Med. 316: 1044-1050 (1987).
163. Kipen, H. M., Cody, R. P., Crump, K. S., Allen, B., and Goldstein, B. D.
Hematologic effects of benzene: a thirty-five year longitudinal study of rubber workers. Toxicol. Ind. Health 4: 411-430 (1988).
164. Kipen, H. M., Cody, R. P., and Goldstein, B. D. Use of longitudinal
analysis of peripheral blood counts to validate historical reconstruction of
benzene exposure. Environ. Health Perspect. 82: 199-206 (1989).
165. Goldstein, B. D. Is exposure to benzene a cause of human multiple
myeloma? Ann. N.Y. Acad. Sci. 609: 225-334 (1990).
166. Aksoy, M., Erdem, S., Dincol, G., Kutlar, A., Bakioglu, I., and
Hepyuksel, T. Clinical observations showing the role of some factors in the
etiology of multiple myeloma. Acta Haematol. 71: 116-120 (1984).
Jeff,
Again, don’t respond to my comments. You have a number of trash articles and I will not address their irreverence.
david,
Again, don’t respond to my comments. I understand you think you’re being clever but you’re not.
Trash articles that are irreverent? LOL. You’re hardly worthy of a response.
Please do not respond to me again.
Physicians rarely know definitively what caused their patient’s cancer.
Benzene is a known carcinogen and people are exposed to it, often unknowingly.
If a factory worker exposed to large amounts of benzene develops a blood cancer should the corporation compensate him or her?
150. Vigliani, E. C., and Saita, G. Benzene and leukemia. N. Engl. J. Med. 217:
872-876 (1964).
151. Aksoy, M., Erdem, S., and Dincol, S. Leukemia in shoe workers exposed chronically to benzene. Blood 44: 837-841 (1974).
152. Infante, P., Rinsky, R., Wagoner, J., and Young, R. Leukemia in benzene
workers. Lancet ii: 76-78 (1977).
153. Goldstein, B. D., and Kipen, H. Lessons on the second cancers resulting
from cancer chemotherapy. In: Biological Reactive Intermediates IV (C.
M. Witmer, Ed.), Plenum Press, New York, 1990, pp. 619-625.
154. Aksoy, M., and Erdem, S. Follow-up study on the mortality and the
development of leukemia in 44 pancytopenic patients with chronic benzene
exposure. Blood 52: 285-292 (1978).
155. Aksoy, M., Dincol, K., Akgun, T., Erdem, S., and Dincol, G.
Haematological effects of chronic benzene poisoning in 217 workers. Br.
J. Ind. Med. 28: 296-302 (1971).
156. Wong, 0. An industry wide mortality study of chemical workers occupational exposed to benzene. I. General results. Br. J. Ind. Med. 44: 365-381
(1987a).
157. Wong. 0. An industry wide mortality study of chemical workers occupational exposed to benzene. II. Dose response analyses. Br. J. Ind. Med. 44:
382-395 (1987b).
158. Bond, G. G., McLaren, E. A., Baldwin, C. L., and Cook, R. R. An update of morality among chemical workers exposed to benzene. Br. J. Ind.
Med. 43: 685-691 (1986).
159. Yin, S. N.,.Li, G. L., Tain, F. D., Fu, N. I., Jin, C., Chen, Y. J., Luo, S.
J., Ye, P. Z., Zhang, J. Z., Wang, G. C., Zhang, X. C., Wu, H. N., and
Zhong, Q. C. Leukaemia in benzene workers: a retrospective cohort study.
Br. J. Ind. Med. 44: 124-128 (1987).
160. Rushton, L., and Alderson, M. R. A case-control study to investigate the
association between exposure to benzene and deaths from leukaemia in oil
refinery workers. Br. J. Cancer 43: 77-84 (1981).
161. Rinsky, R. A., Young, R. J., and Smith, A. B. Leukemia in benzene
workers. Am. J. Ind. Med. 2: 217-245 (1981).
162. Rinsky, R. A., Smith, A. B., Hornung, R., Filloon, T. G., Young, R. J.,
Okun, A. K., and Landrigan, P. J. Benzene and leukemia: an epidemiological risk assessment. N. Engl. J. Med. 316: 1044-1050 (1987).
163. Kipen, H. M., Cody, R. P., Crump, K. S., Allen, B., and Goldstein, B. D.
Hematologic effects of benzene: a thirty-five year longitudinal study of rubber workers. Toxicol. Ind. Health 4: 411-430 (1988).
164. Kipen, H. M., Cody, R. P., and Goldstein, B. D. Use of longitudinal
analysis of peripheral blood counts to validate historical reconstruction of
benzene exposure. Environ. Health Perspect. 82: 199-206 (1989).
165. Goldstein, B. D. Is exposure to benzene a cause of human multiple
myeloma? Ann. N.Y. Acad. Sci. 609: 225-334 (1990).
166. Aksoy, M., Erdem, S., Dincol, G., Kutlar, A., Bakioglu, I., and
Hepyuksel, T. Clinical observations showing the role of some factors in the
etiology of multiple myeloma. Acta Haematol. 71: 116-120 (1984).
Mr Genius-no finding of an increase in cancer with using gas stoves. Thanks for keeping up, J …
So stupid Rimjob had to post it twice.
For twice the impact I guess.
#TheStenchFoulingTheAirOfAfftonMO
Bwaha! Lolgf
Poor J-all this is over his head. We already know benzene is classified as a potential carcinogen, but as I said, no correlating that with the use of gas stoves. They’ve been in use for almost 100 years, so one would think if there was a gas stove-cancer problem, it would have surfaced by now
BTW, in California, EVERYTHING is a potential carcinogen. What matters is the dose that is potentially harmful. Let’s use the COVID standard. If the harm to human life is less than the COVID vaccine, we should say it is Below the threshold that people should care about.
Poor Jill,
Benzene is benzene (C6H6). It doesn’t matter the source. WE get it Jill, you’re a Science Denier.
Jill typed: if there was a gas stove-cancer problem, it would have surfaced by now
It has.
Child, Jill didn’t mention benzene being different if it comes from different sources. YOU inferred it.
Those strawmen are TOUGH, aren’t they?
Jill,
There are some 185,000 new cases of leukemia, lymphoma and multiple myeloma in the US each year. Since it is known that benzene causes blood cancers, doesn’t it make sense to reduce the exposure?
Nothing you post makes sense.
But thanks for playing.
#ThatFoulOdorFromAfftonMoCausesCancer
Bwaha! Lolgf
If you think so, don’t use a gas stove. Problem solved.
I’ll bet they did this “study” in a sealed room, like they did with the previous scare tactic re: asthma.
It’s funny, but virtually all stoves are mandated by code to have an associated exhaust hood. Use of one will prevent buildup of any emissions from the stove in the kitchen. Problem solved yet again.
It’s telling that they try to link this to the bogus “second-hand smoke is WORSE than actual smoking!” BS that governments everywhere used to ban smoking everywhere. One study, never replicated, but who cares, right? Smoking is ICKY – so we should use government force to quash it and demonize those who do it.
It’s also telling that you think government pronouncements are required for every action and product. You are a natural submissive – just ask your boyfriend. I’ll bet you thought Trump was a dictator, too.
Poor J- I said as of now there’s no link between gas stoves and an increase in cancer rates. “Doesn’t it make sense to reduce the exposure”? Maybe it would if they could find a link between gas stoves and cancer. Please try and keep up, ok?
Jill changes her tune often. Where did she say that there’s no link between gas stoves and an increase in cancer rates?
The study confirmed that gas stoves emit benzene and that the emitted benzene accumulated in the homes, in some cases even exceeding the Recommended Exposure Limit (REL) for industry!!! There is no question that benzene causes cancer.
Does Jill agree that there is value in reducing the accumulation of benzene in homes, knowing that benzene causes cancer and respiratory damage? Only a fool or an ignoramus would pump their home full of benzene when it could be prevented with a stove vent.
Cry harder, dipshit.
Suck harder, cockalorum!!
Is it too much to ask to remind homeowners that gas appliances need vents and fresh air to draw from? This isn’t rocket science. We have only had gas appliances for over 100 years. Why is it that government hacks and their paid Academia toadies think that all of their ideas are new and creative and no one else has ever thought about them before.
We have millions of mice die every year to prove that massive amounts of any common substance causes them to get horrible cancer. For no reason.
I do have one comment for Jeff since he can’t leave us alone. How do you get that massive ass on a toilet? I have always been amazed that obese people can truly accomplished a daily task of that nsture.
david,
First, I move your lips…
Just another case of the warmunists looking for anything they possibly can to ban natural gas appliances. “It’s for our own good!” they tell us, and then look for multiple reasons to define our own good.