Do I really need to mention that all those Palestinians would still be alive if Hamas hadn’t taken hostages? If they hadn’t surrounded them with human shields? If they had let them go? If they hadn’t attacked Jews to start with on October 7th?
‘Failure of the negotiations’: Israel’s hostage rescue leads to one of the bloodiest days in the war
In Israel, the news of four hostages rescued from Gaza was met with cheering crowds and tearful scenes of reuniting families. Officials hailed the operation as miraculous and heroic, and offered a rare win for Israel’s embattled Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
But it came at the expense of hundreds of Palestinians, who suffered one of the bloodiest days in Gaza. Video filmed by an NBC News crew on the ground showed streets scattered with charred bodies, survivors gathering body parts into sacks, rescuers carrying mangled and blood-soaked children into chaotic hospitals overwhelmed with the injured.
By Sunday, joy in Israel was fading and giving way to the realities of a war that has dragged on for nine months and whose fissures and deep divisions remained largely unchanged by the rescue.
“What we saw yesterday is actually failure of the negotiations,” Yossi Mekelberg, an associate fellow with the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Chatham House, said in a phone interview with NBC News.
“Had there been a cease-fire, these hostages would already have been at home, and the civilians that were killed yesterday would be alive,” Mekelberg said.
Yes, it’s always wise to reach out to Islamists for comment. Whatever happened to “we don’t negotiate with terrorists”? If you remember, Hamas is a designated terrorist group by the US, UK, UN, and EU. No ceasefire was needed: just release them. If you’re robbing a bank and you get shot while holding hostages, that’s not on the police. That’s on you.
The destruction wrought during the rescue is unlikely to ease Israel’s isolation from an international community that has censured Israel for months over the civilian death toll in Gaza. United Nations Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese said in a statement that she was “Relieved that four hostages have been released,” but that “it should not have come at the expense of Palestinians.”
They didn’t have to support Hamas. They didn’t have to voluntarily put themselves in harm’s way by being human shields.
“Israel has used hostages to legitimize killing, injuring, maiming, starving and traumatizing Palestinians in Gaza,” she said.
Got that? It’s Israel’s fault that a designated terrorist group took hostages and surrounded them with “civilians”.
(Breitbart) The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) confirmed Sunday that all three of the male hostages rescued on Saturday were held by Abdallah Aljamal, a “journalist” who contributed to the Palestine Chronicle and Al Jazeera.
As Breitbart News reported, he was revealed to have had another job, as the spokesperson for the Hamas-run Palestinian Department of Labor in Gaza.
“Civilian”.
Israel is winning !! Just like Mr Teach believed for decades that the USA was winning in Afghanistan
One might think that all the rightwing military experts who failed to correctly see the big picture in Afghanistan might reevaluate their own expertise in regards to Gaza.
Of course Israel’s winning who did you expect?
So, NBC News decided to take its cue from all of the pro-Palestinian/pro-Hamas Twitter bots out there, weeping and wailing and gnashing their teeth that some poor, poor Palestinians were killed during the rescue. I’ve seen tweets combitching that rescuing four Israeli hostages wasn’t worth 274 Palestinians being killed.
Well, the ‘Palestinians’ and Israel previously set the standard, when Israel traded 1,073 Arabs for just one soldier captured and held hostage, so 274 for four makes it seem as though the ‘Palestinians’ got off lightly.
I am reminded of some of the whiners of today lamenting that so many people were nuked to death in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but, without the atomic bombings, hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and Marines would have had to have invaded Honshu, and the death toll would have been appalling. Perhaps fewer Japanese would have died in an invasion than in the atomic bombings, but thousands of Americans would have died as well. President Truman’s job was to win the war with the fewest American casualties, not the fewest Japanese dead.
Japan and Germany were threats to the entire globe.
Our American right-wing brothers consider Muslims to be brown and inhuman and are perfectly willing to have them all killed.
The Romans conquered the Kingdom of Israel in A.D. 73 and the Jews were homeless until 1948, so it’s understandable that Israel is hypersensitive to outside threats. The policy to destroy Hamas is reasonable and collateral damage is unavoidable, but it has been 8 months and Israel is not yet close to eliminating Hamas or rescuing the hostages. Prime Minister Netanyahu would lose an election if he were to allow one.
Rimjob starting off the week right.
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Suck my dick (SMD)! (from now on we’ll just respond SMD! to all pissanty* comments.
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So Karen (aka Rimjob) how about shutting the fuck up and not replying at all, dumbass.
By the way, isn’t sucking your dick your White Christian Nationalist wife’s job? 
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re dick sucking..
But Pissant (aka Rimjob) you’re just so good at it!
So, Rimjob, your White Christian Nationalist wife who is also a Pastor will no longer provide you with that service?
Or maybe she’s just not into flabby softcocks?
Wrong again, asshole. It’s enough for me to confine them to their own nations so as to reduce conflict in western nations among civilized peoples.
Mr Teach headlined: NBC News Blames Israel For Failing To Negotiate After Hostage Rescue
Which is untrue. NBC quoted Professor Yossi Mekelberg, an Israeli in London.
Mr Teach wants everyone to support and voice his opinions.
Ayman Mohyeldin, the Egyptian-born MSNBC show host, asked on Twitter, “How many innocent Palestinians killed is acceptable to rescue Israeli hostages?”
Were there too many Germans killed as the concentration camps were liberated, rescuing the surviving Jews? How many innocent Germans killed is acceptable to rescue Jewish prisoners?
Again. For the whiners among us.
(Specifically Rimjob and johnnie boy.)
Just STFU and die.
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Ah, Karen (aka Rimjob) queefing her sexy talk again. She’s sooo scary. Smelly too!
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Pissant,
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[…] good friend William Teach noted that NBC News decided to take its cue from all of the pro-Palestinian/pro-Hamas Twitter bots out […]
Johnny-you have evidence Israel isn’t winning?
Mr Teach reasons: If you’re robbing a bank and you get shot while holding hostages, that’s not on the police.
But if in rescuing the hostage the police kill 24 bank customers and 6 clerks in addition to the bankrobber, the police could expect some criticism.
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also from the article:
Mr Teach responds: Yes, it’s always wise to reach out to Islamists for comment.
Does Teach believe that the Israeli, Professor Mekelberg, is an Islamist?
Chicken Little Karen Man
But if in rescuing the hostage the police kill 24 bank customers and 6 clerks in addition to the bankrobber, the police could expect some criticism.
Your analogy doesn’t work. But, if you want to try, consider that the customers and clerks were all keeping the bank robbers money.
All Muslims are terrorists….. sooner or later.
ChickenShit Lewis Man proclaims:
All Muslims are terrorists…
That is stupid, even for you. Do you really believe children and babies are restraining hostages??
All far-right Christians are terrorists… sooner or later.
BTW, Mr Teach’s analogy didn’t work.
Chicken Little Karen Man
All far-right Christians are terrorists… sooner or later.
Your problem, of course, is that you have no facts to support your claim.
OTOH we have numerous examples showing new immigrants/illegal aliens going off the rails and start attacking/killing. And even Muslim children, second generation, collapse into madness and violence.
It’s in the religion.
Note the hostages were kept by “civilians.”
SMD, ChickenShit Lewis Man!!
Far-right christians stormed the US Capitol in an attempt to delay if not overturn the election.
Far-right christians killed children in Oklahoma City 1995.
A far-right christian killed one protester and injured many more in Charlottesville.
Far-right christians plotted to kidnap and kill the MI governor.
Far-right christians bombed, fire-bombed, murdered Drs and medical personnel at clinics.
Over the past 20 yrs, 2/3rds of terrorist attacks have been by far-right christians.
And when/if Trump loses and/or goes to jail…
…Sooner or later…
Rimjob often uses flawed analogies for his hypotheticals.
It’s another mark of his stupidity. And he is very stupid.
Pissant AND ChickShit Lewis,
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The esteemed Mr Dowd wrote:
Our socialist from St Louis writes as though the ‘Palestinians’ who were killed were all innocent bystanders. They were not: the ones who were not actively Hamas were nevertheless Hamas enablers, helping to keep the hostages in captivity, and trying to keep their location secret.
How many ‘innocent’ Germans were killed when the Soviets rolled through Poland and eastern Germany, liberating the concentration camps? We’ll never really know the answer to that, but it was well into the thousands, including children and even babies. Should the concentration camps not been liberated? Should the Allies not have pushed into Germany, once the nations the Third Reich invaded were liberated, and instead negotiated Adolf Hitler’s surrender? After all, think of all of the innocent Germans who were killed, including children and babies and the elderly once the Allies crossed the borders into Deutschland!
War is Hell, and Hamas were the ones who opened the gates to this particular Hell. The Allies pursued the only reasonable policy, unconditional surrender, and that’s how they won. Israel’s policy is to completely destroy Hamas, and that’s the only sound policy to pursue. If Hamas were to unconditionally surrender, Israel could quit, but we all know that the Hamas ‘leadership,’ most of whom are safely ensconced outside of Gaza, would never surrender, and certainly not surrender themselves up to capture.
My point was that Mr Teach’s example was flawed.
Don’t get me wrong. Hamas is a collection of brutal animals who use Palestinians as human shields, even hoping some get killed to fuel criticism of Israel. But not all the Palestinians are supporters of Hamas.
Again, comparing the Hamas-Israel war to WWII is not appropriate.
Yet Rimjob has no problem at all comparing Trump to Hitler or his supporters to Nazis.
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SMD Pissant!
Non sequitur!
Your guys are fascists, not Nazis. Trump is no Hitler, more of a Mussolini.
Regardless, World War II was a few orders of magnitude more consequential than the Israel/Hamas “war”. If Germany HAD one you WOULD be a Nazi.
Huh?
Are you really this stupid?
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Chicken Little Karen Man
But not all the Palestinians are supporters of Hamas.
Not all Germans were Nazis.
At what point should none members of any group tolerate bad actors? And when does tolerance become support via housing, food, etc.
And should the rest of the world tolerate the whole group who is supporting the bad actors?
Our sage from St Louis wrote:
Yet the percentage of Gazans who support Hamas is extremely high. Remember the dancing in the streets on October 7th and 8th as Hamas hauled the dead and captured alive Jews back into Gaza?
Why is it not? Israel is a small country, and the Islamists in general, and Hamas specifically, have promised to destroy that small country. For the Israelis, the situation is existential.
The Shoah is still in the living memory of the Jews, and they understand existential threats.
Maybe Russia SHOULD nuke the US since America is supporting Ukraine’s killing of Russians. The majority of America support this attack on Russians. Putin would be justified in nuking us and killing as many “civilians” as possible.
Seek help, Rimjob.
Or a blow job. Maybe your White Christian Nationalist wife can help.
At whose expense should it have come?
Let’s tell the truth here: Hamas have gotten their candy asses kicked so thoroughly, in a war that they knew they couldn’t win but started anyway, that the hostages are the only advantage that they have.
Further, many of the hostages are already dead or sold into a life of slavery to customers (all Moslems) in other countries. Hamas isn’t giving the hostages back because there are too few of them left to matter. All Hamas can do at this point is pretend they are standing on principle instead of reality.
Of course Israel’s winning who did you expect?
Chicken Little Karen Man
But if in rescuing the hostage the police kill 24 bank customers and 6 clerks in addition to the bankrobber, the police could expect some criticism.
Your analogy doesn’t work. But, if you want to try, consider that the customers and clerks were all keeping the bank robbers money.
All Muslims are terrorists….. sooner or later.
ChickenShit Lewis Man,
All far-right christians are terrorists… sooner or later.
Reminds me of when the Clinton administration killed every man, woman, and child at the Branch Davidian compound because they claimed the children were being abused (a state issue) and they had to save them. And those were American citizens, killed by their own Federal government, just because the BATFE was facing a hard budget negotiation in congress. They later claimed the cult was “stockpiling weapons”. At the time, they had 3.5 guns per adult, which was about average for Texans.
I don’t recall NBC news remarking on the tragic loss of civil rights for the women and children. Even then, the main news agencies were populated by Democratic party activists who would hear no evil, see no evil and say no evil about Democratic party officeholders.
At least the News media didn’t need to call for an immediate cease fire. No doubt, they would have because the news media is very consistent in their high regard for civil rights and due process of law. (/sarc)