That supposed "moral" leg the French are trying to stand on keeps getting shorter:
PARIS – French troops in Ivory Coast suffocated a prisoner, and commanders knew of the killing but did not report it to their superiors, the Defense Ministry said Wednesday.
The prisoner, Firmin Mahe, "was killed by suffocation by French soldiers in an armored vehicle," the ministry said in a statement summarizing findings from an investigation begun last month.
The command of the French force in Ivory Coast "was informed of the facts but did not make them known" to superiors, the statement added.
Sounds to me like Chirac needs to be investigate. This could go all the way to the top! (sic)
They can just blame it on Lyndie England, the way the Bush administration did. Hell, she’s already toast!
The Ivory Coast missed a good opportunity to keep quiet. The guy must have been “choked by US values”.
Unfortunately the US now has no moral authority to criticize anybody because we are just as bad as Saddam ever was.
And the 2 dozen murders in US custodity? We know they go to the top because the Bush administraton explicitly sanctioned torture. Perhaps we should focus more on the beam in our eye before worrying about the splinter in our neighbors.
Wow! The French did that? Sounds like the French and the Americans are really just the same. The French haters should be SO ashamed that we have been acting just like the French.
Well, it is being investigated.
In fact, the four-star general in charge of operation “Licorne” in Ivory Coast, Henri Poncet, has been suspended along with two of his direct subordinates.
Contrast this with the fact that no high-ranking military officer has been even reprimanded for the abuse committed at Abu Graib and in Guantanamo.
I guess in the U.S., the buck stops really low on the chain of command. In France, it appears that no one is afraid of exposing the dirty laundry to the public.
So, before you start to gloat idiotically and to spew your illiterate, jingoistic, falsehoods, do your homework.
Wow, so the French military did something and there will now be an investigation. Too bad for the French military that they don’t have a Neocon Cabal led by RoveCo. to cover it up for them.
2032 American lives, and counting. Your vote, your atonement.
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Seems like everyone is riding the French. lately. That’s what they get for bombing paradise.
The Germans conquered France in 20 days. Perhaps the Islamists are trying to beat that record.
No more brie and cheese for me. Me and O’Reilly are going to boycott. Look out Frenchies.
My comment format got screwed up above. What the first lines should say was:
Seems like everyone is riding the French lately. That’s what they get for
bombing paradise.
Let’s not compare moralalities with anyone else, OK??? Do you think it’s defensible to use torture in any circumstance? If so, then you’ve got the right guys drivin’ the bus. I don’t care what political party the guys in the mansion are in, I want to be proud of what they are doing in my name, and torturing our enemies is indefensible, whether at home or abroad!!! Torture is how stupid/lazy people get information. Smart people know better.
Well I would look at what the French did in Algeria -> Makes us look like pikers!
BSD
Once again BSD, for moral debates among US citizens it doesn’t matter how any other country conducts it’s business, only how we conduct our own. The French can wrestle with their own moral dilemmas, we our own immediate ones to thrash out.
Um, France, as well as other countries around the world, sure like to get into our business.
hei,i`m 25 year old french dude who knows a bit too much about muslim integregation in france.since 1990 i have encounted more than a hundred attacks of arabs for no other reason than being white.i hear people say it`s time for france to”pay it`s dues” for having colonized countrys in the past.right,but the ones
who are “actualy paying the dues” are people like me,born in 1980 and who have nothing to do with the stupid colony thing.the problem for france is simply ENORMOUS,having to deal,tolerate and integrate a totaly different culture and relegion:islam.islam does not seem to tolerate or blend with others,instead it tends to try to take over oters.it always only goes one way: they steal,robb,hi jack,deal drugs,gang bang unwiling women,abuse from social help,abuse from social security,speak in a very high and agressive way,and all of this should be considered as normal.but if you as a french man only mention one of these above facts you are immediatly stampled as racist.well i happen to not be racist,but they are.like the fact that it is ok for an arab guy to be with a french women but it is not ok for a french guy to be with an arab women.then they are the ones triyng to come up with values like: respect and equalty,now wait a second here,who the hell are they triyng to fool?french people are no dummies,we are fucking sick and tired about the way things are turning out and we do have a “limit”.they are doing everything they can to make us hate them,and now we are starting to hate them,but then of course,what else could they expect?
hei,i`m 25 year old french dude who knows a bit too much about muslim integregation in france.since 1990 i have encounted more than a hundred attacks of arabs for no other reason than being white.i hear people say it`s time for france to”pay it`s dues” for having colonized countrys in the past.right,but the ones
who are “actualy paying the dues” are people like me,born in 1980 and who have nothing to do with the stupid colony thing.the problem for france is simply ENORMOUS,having to deal,tolerate and integrate a totaly different culture and relegion:islam.islam does not seem to tolerate or blend with others,instead it tends to try to take over oters.it always only goes one way: they steal,robb,hi jack,deal drugs,gang bang unwiling women,abuse from social help,abuse from social security,speak in a very high and agressive way,and all of this should be considered as normal.but if you as a french man only mention one of these above facts you are immediatly stampled as racist.well i happen to not be racist,but they are.like the fact that it is ok for an arab guy to be with a french women but it is not ok for a french guy to be with an arab women.then they are the ones triyng to come up with values like: respect and equalty,now wait a second here,who the hell are they triyng to fool?french people are no dummies,we are fucking sick and tired about the way things are turning out and we do have a “limit”.they are doing everything they can to make us hate them,and now we are starting to hate them,but then of course,what else could they expect?
hei,i`m 25 year old french dude who knows a bit too much about muslim integration in france.since 1990 i have encounted more than a hundred attacks of arabs for no other reason than being white.i hear people say it`s time for france to”pay it`s dues” for having colonized countrys in the past.right,but the ones
who are “actualy paying the dues” are people like me,born in 1980 and who have nothing to do with the stupid colony thing.the problem for france is simply ENORMOUS,having to deal,tolerate and integrate a totaly different culture and relegion:islam.islam does not seem to tolerate or blend with others,instead it tends to try to take over oters.it always only goes one way: they steal,robb,hi jack,deal drugs,gang bang unwiling women,abuse from social help,abuse from social security,speak in a very high and agressive way,and all of this should be considered as normal.but if you as a french man only mention one of these above facts you are immediatly stampled as racist.well i happen to not be racist,but they are.like the fact that it is ok for an arab guy to be with a french women but it is not ok for a french guy to be with an arab women.then they are the ones triyng to come up with values like: respect and equalty,now wait a second here,who the hell are they triyng to fool?french people are no dummies,we are fucking sick and tired about the way things are turning out and we do have a “limit”.they are doing everything they can to make us hate them,and now we are starting to hate them,but then of course,what else could they expect?