I’m still waiting for all the Cult of Climastrology members to give up their own air conditioning. Instead, they want to deny Other People the same modern lifestyle developments that make their own lives nice
Emerging Climate Accord Could Push A/C Out of Sweltering India’s Reach
A thrill goes down Lane 12, C Block, Kamalpur every time another working-class family brings home its first air-conditioner. Switched on for a few hours, usually to cool a room where the whole family sleeps, it transforms life in this suffocating concrete labyrinth where the heat reached 117 degrees in May.
“You wake up totally fresh,†exulted Kaushilya Devi, a housewife, whose husband bought a unit in May. “I wouldn’t say we are middle class,†she said. “But we are closer.â€
But 3,700 miles away, in Kigali, Rwanda, negotiators from more than 170 countries gathered this week to complete an accord that would phase out the use of heat-trapping hydrofluorocarbons, or HFCs, worldwide, and with them the cheapest air-conditioners that are just coming within reach of people like Ms. Devi. Millions of Indians might mark the transition from poverty with the purchase of their first air-conditioner, but as those purchases ease suffering in one of the planet’s hottest countries, they are contributing profoundly to the heating of the planet.
Let’s be honest: HFC’s are a greenhouse gas that should be concerning, being around 1,000 more powerful than CO2, and doesn’t seem to have a doubling effect. It would be worthwhile to replace it. The problem here is that any alternatives right now are much, much more expensive, so, people in developing nations won’t be able to afford this like air conditioners. And refrigerators. And anything that uses HFCs.
The replacements are more toxic and flammable. How about that?
But the deal, which could be completed this weekend, could have as much or more of an effect on climate change. Unlike the Paris accord, the emerging Kigali agreement will have the force of international law, a legal requirement that rich countries give poor countries money to help them comply, and trade and economic sanctions against countries that do not.
Screwing poor people by force of international law. Good job, Warmists. Now give up your own use of any device that uses HFCs.
This is the real troublemaker.
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Teach what percentage of the selling price of an AC unit would be the increase in using an environmentally friendly fluid?
Puron is initially more expensive but saves money over time by being more efficient
https://www.furnacecompare.com/freon-vs-puron.html
Always check primary sources, even the NYT
The neo-Malthusians want those people to die.
Always check john’s sources as he has linked to a trade site for the HVAC industry.
NIST says R410a (the generic name for Puron) is not as effective in temperatures above 95 degrees which means that in an area as warm as India, R410a is not as effective and would bea at least as cost effective as R22 if not less effective. The release of R410a into the atmosphere has the same environmental impact as R22 as a greenhouse gas. (In fact, the IPCC said R410a is a greenhouse gas.) The difference is R22 can affect the ozone, but R410a, which is a blend including R22 does not affect the ozone.
As R410a requires higher system pressures, compressors, lines, etc all have to be more robust.
However, john misses the key point of the article. Under the agreement, all hydrofluorocarbons would be banned. R-410a is classified as a hydrofluorocarbon. (See the following from the US Department of Commerce: http://enforcement.trade.gov/download/factsheets/factsheet-hydrofluorocarbon-blends-and-single-components-ad-init-071615.pdf)
As usual, john tries to deflect from the argument and in doing so, shows his ignorance. The proposed agreement would ban both R22 and R410a.
Once again, john is wrong on the facts and has shown he doesn’t understand his own citations.