New Jersey is already one of the strictest states in the Union when it comes to law abiding citizens and firearms. Yet, still has lots of shootings. And, I’ll be perfectly honest, I do not mind some of these proposals, at least not if they were tweaked a bit. But, they aren’t going to stop the criminals who use guns unlawfully, and are often in possession of firearms unlawfully
New Jersey could require all handgun ammunition sales to be recorded and compel many people with firearms in the state to undergo regular safety training.
Those are just a couple of new rules on guns proposed in four bills that have been introduced in the state legislature are intended to close loopholes and keep firearms out of the hands of people who aren’t supposed to have one, backers say.
“These new bills will ensure that law enforcement, state entities, and gun store owners will work together to reduce gun crimes and gun trafficking in our communities,†state Assemblyman Louis Greenwald, D-Camden, said.
So, what are we looking at?
One bill (A5453) would make it a second-degree crime to act as a straw purchaser and it would make it a third-degree crime to transport, sell or possess a firearm without a federally licensed serial number.
It’s already a federal crime to make a straw purchase. This is really about doing away with so-called ghost guns, ones built by citizens themselves. BTW, there doesn’t seem to be any sort of shenanigans going on with this legislation, it’s rather straight forward.
Another measure is a bill (A5454) that would add convictions of crimes such as carjacking or making terroristic threats to the list of crimes that ban people from buying firearms in the state.
The actual list is “aggravated assault, arson, burglary, escape, extortion, homicide, kidnapping, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, sexual assault, bias intimidation in violation”, as well as the above and a few others, would get citizens banned. I don’t think anyone would argue with any, except, wait, Thought Crimes, ie, saying mean things. Also, it would make it almost impossible for anyone who was ever committed to a mental institution to get a firearm, particularly if it happened in another state. And most people who have committed drug offenses.
There’s also a bill (A5452) that would require people to renew their firearm identification card every four years and show that they have completed a gun safety training course each time they renew the license. Active or retired police officers and former members of the military, however, would be exempt from the rule.
I’m on the fence on this. Owning a firearm may be a a Right, but, it is also a responsibility, and people should handle them correctly. Of course, you know this is a way to take people’s gun rights away in a place like NJ.
Finally, the last measure (A5454) would require places that sell handgun ammunition to track their ammunition sales and report them to the State Police. They would also be required to make sure people purchasing handgun ammunition are 21 years old, which is the legal age for buying a handgun.
So, what happens if it is an under-21 who is going hunting? Will the person, usually a parent or older family member, get in trouble? The legislation suggests it. One thing I wouldn’t mind is the notion of restricting the sale of ammo to people who do not have a federal backgrounds check for the weapon in question that the ammo is for. This could potentially limit ammo for stolen/unlawfully possessed firearms. But, we all know that this is really about tracking what ammo a law abiding citizen has.
That said, what part of this would stop the use of firearms by people who would use them illegally?
Of course, the NJ Dems are perfectly fine with protecting illegal aliens. Even the criminal ones.
As the leftist anti American Democrat Communist Party slowly erodes a citizens right to own and operate firearms they are committed to allowing criminals and illegal aliens to vote. How interesting. I guess we know who their constituents are.
Kye,
As a member of the far-right, anti-American Republic-Fascist Party, can you explain how NJ laws on firearms allow illegal aliens to vote?
TEACH typed: “One thing I wouldn’t mind is the notion of restricting the sale of ammo to people who do not have a federal backgrounds check for the weapon in question that the ammo is for.”
Is TEACH an anti-American commie?
You conveniently left out this part…
“This could potentially limit ammo for stolen/unlawfully possessed firearms.”
As you know, but ignore, most conservatives are for common sense gun laws that could actually reduce or prevent criminals from possessing guns/ammo.
So no, this doesn’t make him an anti-American commie but does expose you for the cherry picker you are.
Dear Nighthawk, there is no law that can “reduce or prevent criminals from possessing guns/ammo” because as CRIMINALS they don’t obey laws. How hard is that for you leftists to understand? BTW, that alone does not make Elwood “an Anti-American commie” we have a long list of reasons for that. Therefore, I’m not “exposed as a cherry picker” but rather as a person with the common sense you were apparently born without.
Again for your edification. Criminals don’t obey laws that’s what makes them criminals. The only people these laws are designed to hurt are citizens. You know it, we know it, they know it and the criminals know it. Guns are illegal in Detroit, Philly, DC, Chicago, Baltimore, and New York am I to presume all the criminals gave op shooting people in those places or is their murder rate out of control because only law abiding citizens are left defenseless? So stop bloviating about stupid shit.
I think you missed that my response was to Elwood, not you.
(from TEACH) “This could potentially limit ammo for stolen/unlawfully possessed firearms.â€
Nighthawk typed: As you know, but ignore, most conservatives are for common sense gun laws that could actually reduce or prevent criminals from possessing guns/ammo.
So nighthawk and TEACH both support restrictions on ammo purchases. Me too.
No, they don’t want the bad guys to get ammo.
Unlike your average Demo who loves the idea of blacks exterminating themselves.
Why do you hate your own people? Are you like the Mocha Messiah and hate yourself for not being born white? Do you hate black people because their blood keeps you out of the cool places?
You really have a reading comprehension problem, Elwood. Exactly where did I say “NJ laws on firearms allow illegal aliens to vote”? Take your meds Elwood!
Perhaps you need to “tighten up” your prose.
You definitely need to tighten up your mind.
You had a lot of problems in school, didn’t you?
As always, bunny suit wants to change the subject and wants to imply that Jersey’s law enables felon voting.
Standard Lefty dodge.
And the answer to the question is, don’t be an ass; you’ve got too many animal suits as it is.
Don’t buy Ruger.
NJ based company, taxes paid by company and its employees go to fund anti-gun politicians.
Law abiding citizens should do what we can to hit blue states where it hurts.
Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc., better known by the shortened name Ruger, is an American firearm manufacturing company based in Southport, Connecticut with production facilities also in Newport, New Hampshire; Mayodan, North Carolina and Prescott, Arizona.
Based in Connectthedots is the important part.
More Limousine Liberals.
As long as we have “open borders” between states, state laws on guns will work as well as emissions laws in PA will stop OH acid coal emissions from crossing the border.
Banning people from obtaining ammo will work as well as banning drugs. That’s why nobody uses drugs anymore. But the good news is now the Democrats want to let drug users out of jail and put ammo buyers in jail. At least they’ll replace the voting jail birds.
Sounds more like prescription drugs – i.e., regulated.
That still won’t stop criminals for stealing ammo, or drugs. Or from the “insiders” cheating. Look at all the MDs writing ‘scrips for oxy.
Where there’s a dollar, there’s a way.
Should we get rid of drug laws?
Thanks for admitting your gun laws won’t work.
Of course gun laws work. You just have to look past the stated intention of the law, which is always a lie, and what the real agenda is. The goal is to disarm the population. Disarming the population does effectively disarm the population. Of course, the police still have guns, and the politically connected still have them. And the criminals still have them. Plus all those old people who forgot they have a gun in the back of their closet are now all criminals. And anyone who hid his guns “for a rainy day” is now also a criminal. But every authoritarian government does gun control first because everything else is easier when your general population can’t fight back. It works every time.
Off topic: Prohibition was also a huge success. Alcohol consumption in the USA fell dramatically and the harmful effects of alcohol abuse similarly fell dramatically. Since those were the stated intentions of the law, it worked by any measure. It also really pissed people off because it made criminals of everyone who just wanted a drink and pushed a very popular product into the black market.
So we need centralized government dictating every facet of American life.
Thank you for admitting you’re a Commie.