All because you just had to have that steak from an Evil moo cow and drive to the beach
Climate crisis in Western US worst in 1,200 years
As the population in the Western United States continues to grow, 72 percent of these states are experiencing a considerably “severe†drought, including 26 percent experiencing exceptional drought, NBC News reported — the worst drought in the region in 1,200 years.
Neither The Hill article nor the NBC News one provides scientific data backing up this assertion. The NBC one says
This year’s aridity is happening against the backdrop of a 20-year-long drought. The past two decades have been the driest or the second driest in the last 1,200 years in the West, posing existential questions about how to secure a livable future in the region.
They both happily blame anthropogenic climate change, failing to consider the question “what caused the drought 1,200 years ago?” If the answer is “natural processes”, then why is that different from now? I’m certainly not going to dismiss some anthropogenic forcing, especially land use and the overuse of underground water, but, they did not have industry, fossil fuels, and so forth 1,200 years ago during the Medieval Warm Period, and 1,20o years ago is right in the middle of it, and the real data shows it was warmer than the current warm period. So, what caused it? Back to The Hill
This year is set to be the worst drought in the West since 1977, Ernest Conant, director of the Mid-Pacific Region of the Bureau of Reclamation, told NBC News. Before that, the second driest year took place 1,200 years ago.
Oh, wait, what? I thought it was the worst in 1,200 years? No? So the headline and first paragraph were just mean to scare people? That’s not even mentioned in the NBC cult screed. It’s almost like the Credentialed Media is trying to gaslight us, all while failing to give up their own use of fossil fuels and make their businesses carbon neutral. Why are we supposed to trust them?
William Teach: “what caused the drought 1,200 years ago?â€
Most likely, increased solar irradiance coupled with decreased volcanic activity.
Or maybe something else.
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William Teach: the real data shows it was warmer than the current warm period.
That is incorrect. The current warming is already about twice that of the Medieval.
Then came the Climategate “scientists”…
https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2021-1-3-causation-of-climate-change-was-the-medieval-warm-period-regional
Go away KiddieZ.
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Yes, funny that the 1990 IPCC report showed the MWP being quite warm…. https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Screen-Shot-2017-02-14-at-5.49.31-AM-down-768×992.gif
Jl: Yes, funny that the 1990 IPCC report showed the MWP being quite warm
There may have been some warming, but the warming wasn’t consistent globally, and occurred in different regions at different times. Regardless, it was not as warm as it is now, and current warming is expected to continue. (Your graph does not show current warming.)
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/ContentFeature/GlobalWarming/images/proxy-based_temperature_reconstruction.png
http://co2science.org/data/mwp/mwpp.php
Go away KiddieZ. Y’all be handwaving.
#HockeySticks
#TheScienceIsSettled
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Sure it was global… http://pages.science-skeptical.de/MWP/MedievalWarmPeriod.htmx
Jl: Sure it was global…
You just proved the point that the warming wasn’t consistent, and occurred in different regions at different times. There was a general warming, but less than the current warming trend, which is expected to continue.
Z,
Child, we have laid to rest the fact that a trace gas in the atmosphere could have a huge impact on our climate, it is not happening. You have zero proof of causation. Then your one and only solution, which is admitted to do nothing, is selective destruction of the wealth and economy of the Western world. No pressure is brought to influence China and India who are the major polluters.
So go away and pester other sites, you bring nothing to any discussion as you are only an adlosecent.
david7134: we have laid to rest the fact that a trace gas in the atmosphere could have a huge impact on our climate
You may want to publish your results, because the vast majority of scientists working in atmospherics and related fields disagree. Indeed, without greenhouse gases, the Earth’s surface would be largely frozen.
Z,
Child, you are the latest adolescent to come here with the bull shit that CO2 has any influence on the climate. It is a trace gas and you do not have a direct path to causation. At current levels, this gas has little if any influence, yes, you go to your file and pull up meaningless articles, none scientific, only what you think are important as you have zero knowledge of any of the courses required for analysis. Then your only resolution is political which would not have influence at all. Especially as you have no solution for controlling China and India.
You are a little child and do not understand the topic at all. Go to one of the liberal sites and and see how long it would be before you are banned for having a contrarian opinion.
Jl: It is a trace gas and you do not have a direct path to causation.
The simplest and most direct evidence is to calculate the Earth’s blackbody temperature. We’ll wait…
The quote in the last comment should have been attributed to david7134.
Driest in 1200 years? That’s quite interesting considering California and the West have experienced much worse droughts, some lasting longer than 200 years. https://realclimatescience.com/2017/12/science-distinguishing-between-natural-and-man-made-california-droughts/
“Quite” warm is quite a relative term. The assertions from Menton and Heller are not based on current information. The Earth has warmed nearly 1C since 1970.
1C is not a miniscule increase.
Sure it has because Rimjob says so.
#HockeySticksAnyone
#TheScienceIsSettled
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermometer
So where’s the part where it says,
“The Earth has warmed nearly 1C since 1970.”
Can’t seem to find it in your Wiki citation but then again one probably has to be as smart as Rimjob, dipshit that he is, to find it.
#TheNarrativeHasFallenApart
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Don’t see any assertions from Heller, only a western drought graph that he obviously had no hand in creating
1200 years, eh? The daily papers from the year 821…are they on microfiche? Are there records at the town halls of all those towns in California from 1200 years ago? Maybe in the basement with Mike Mulligan and Mary Anne?
mike: 1200 years, eh?
Turns out scientists can learn a lot about the past without reading it in the daily papers.
mike: 1200 years, eh?
Turns out scientists can learn a lot about the past with reading it in the daily papers.
Duplicate. Please ignore.
Please ignore the original and everything else also.
Go away KiddieZ.
#LosingTheNarrative
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Other factors aside, the droughts out west are indeed pretty bad. One would think such events would force politicians to change their ways at least temporarily. No such luck.
“You just proved the point the warming wasn’t consistent…â€. You mean just like now? https://twitter.com/jimfish56837379/status/1396984196141178884?s=21
Jl: You mean just like now?
That’s right! The Arctic, for instance, is warming much faster than the rest of the globe. In any case, the Earth’s mean temperature is much higher and increasing much faster than during the Medieval Period.
“In any case” is not a valid citation nor proof of your statement.
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Yes, maybe the Arctic is catching up to what it was like earlier last century…. https://twitter.com/kenneth72712993/status/1236462593801359363?s=21
Scroll to the bottom for the above link..
And actually there’s quite a few more areas that haven’t warmed in addition to the already mentioned ones…. https://notrickszone.com/2018/02/18/greenland-antarctica-and-dozens-of-areas-worldwide-have-not-seen-any-warming-in-60-years-and-more/
It sure is hot out here in mexafornia. Yea, it called Summer in the Valley.
It sure is hot out here in mexafornia. Yea, it called Summer in the Valley.