CDC Spins Away In Trying To Defend New Isolation Protocols

We’re what, 21 months in to the Chinese coronavirus (well, really, over a year, it’s just February when we really started to hear about it), and they’re just figuring this stuff out now?

CDC director defends new COVID guidelines reducing isolation period

Amid criticism from public health officials, Centers for Disease Control Director Rochelle Walensky defended new guidelines released this week that halved the isolation period for people who test positive for COVID-19 but are asymptomatic or whose symptoms are ‘resolving.’

“This virus has proven its ability to adapt quickly and we must adapt with it,” Walensky said Wednesday during a briefing by the White House COVID-19 response team.

The CDC announced the changes Monday, saying they were “shortening the recommended time for isolation from 10 days for people with COVID-19 to five days, if asymptomatic, followed by five days of wearing a mask when around others.”

During Wednesday’s press briefing, Walensky said that “studies show that people are most infectious in the one-to-two days before symptoms develop, and in the two-to-three days after,” with an estimated 85-90 percent of transmission occurring in the first five days of infection with COVID-19.

“After five days, the risk of transmission substantially decreases,” she said.

We didn’t know this before? Why not? What was the CDC doing all this time?

“Basically, if you test negative or positive we want you to mask,” Walensky said, noting that the new CDC guidance recommends masking for five days after isolation.

“I want to emphasize the critical importance of masking, which we know decreases risk of transmission, and of staying home if you’re sick,” she said, adding, “These recommendations will only work if people follow them.”

Oh, would these be the masks required in areas like NYC which are seeing huge spikes in positive tests?

“It’s frankly reckless to proceed like this. Using a rapid test or some type of test to validate that the person isn’t infectious is vital,” Dr. Eric Topol, founder and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, told Reuters, adding, “There’s no evidence, no data to support this.”

Oh, it gets better, Doc

So the tests won’t really tell you? Oh, but, she gets so much better!

So, that’s science? What people can tolerate? No one seemed to have a problem forcing isolation a month ago? Nor are any other countries doing this. I bet kids really do not appreciate all those shots for, say, smallpox. Maybe we should only give them 3 instead of 5 if they can’t tolerate them? Yeah, 5 is necessary for full immunity to smallpox. What about masks? What if people cannot tolerate them? Like kids. Remember all those videos of 2 year olds freaking about wearing a mask on an airplane and the family being kicked off?

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23 Responses to “CDC Spins Away In Trying To Defend New Isolation Protocols”

  1. Down on the Corner says:

    What I find particularly funny is that people with LONG COVID are being treated with Hydroxyclorquin.

    Ivermectin works better than Pfizer and Merck’s new pills which use the exact same method of blitzing the virus with massive amounts of virus killers. The problem is that Ivermectin won the Nobel peace prize for its amazing effectiveness and Pfizer and Merck’s new MONEY MAKING PILL want to kill you.

    Ivermectin is being used around the world now despite the WHO and CDC desperately dancing a twist to Big Pharma’s drum beating. It is so obvious the left wants this pandemic to roll on for a decade to kill people, reducing population. Reduce C02, and turn the world over to authoritarian governments that dance to their version of the twist.

    Around the world, people are rioting. Germany just had bloody riots and in almost every country they are doing the same.

    I bet no one here even knows that Australia just decided their draconian lockdowns were anti-democratic, anti-human and in lock step with exactly what China wants the world to do. Collapse for their benefit.

    Austrailia said okay we are going to return to treating our citizens as responsible adults and are ending their draconian ways. Bully and Kudo’s to them.

    Continue to fight this lunacy because the left wants it to continue by lying to you daily about how Afraid YOU SHOULD BE!!!!…..they want another round or two of 100 million mail out ballots while you hide in your house afraid to vote.

    Fight. Peacefully but fight on. The world’s way of life is at stake. Hell if your afraid of the vaccine just order some Ivermectin from India. Its easily obtainable but I will say this. Get the vax. Ive had covid delta and also Omicron. Delta was a really bad cold, Omicron was the sniffles and I have been vaxxed and then boosted with Moderna.

    Vitamin D3, Zinc…dont forget your zinc, Vitamin C and a strong multi-vitamin. Eat good, eat healthy and work on your own personal health. You do this and you are golden. Yes some people will die from covid. People who have zero fat, eat perfectly healthy and exercise with great passion drop dead of heart attacks too!!!

    Shit happens. Take your own health into your hands and fight for your rights. Peacefully I might add. I do not advocate for violence. I advocate for intelligent action armed with the truth and a healthy body.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      people with LONG COVID are being treated with Hydroxychloroquine – Citation please. Is it effective? Anyway, long-haul Covid may be a sequelae of hyperactivity of the immuno-inflammatory response, that is, the immune system keeps attacking tissues (muscles, nervous system, joints etc) long after the infection is gone. Any safe anti-inflammatory, immune modulatory medicine could be beneficial. Clinical studies have not confirmed HCQ’s effectiveness in preventing or treating acute Covid.

      Ivermectin works better than Pfizer and Merck’s new pills which use the exact same method of blitzing the virus with massive amounts of virus killers. Not exactly. Ivermectin can inhibit the Covid virus protease in vitro, but at concentrations NOT safely achievable in patients. The Pfizer anti-viral inhibits the protease, but at safe plasma concentrations. The Merck drug works by inhibiting the viral polymerase enzyme and ivermectin DOES inhibit the same enzyme in vitro. There is no evidence that ivermectin works better than the specific anti-virals. Clinical trials show the anti-viral pills are effective. High quality clinical trials have yet to show that ivermectin is effective against Covid.

      The problem is that Ivermectin won the Nobel peace prize for its amazing effectiveness and Pfizer and Merck’s new MONEY MAKING PILL want to kill you. The problem is that scientists who discovered ivermectin analogues for the treatment of intestinal parasites won the Noble Prize for Physiology or Medicine in 2015 (objects don’t win Nobel Prizes). The MONEY MAKING PILL’s do not want to kill you. They’re pills.

      It is good advice to eat well, exercise, avoid obesity and to get vaccinated.

      • drowningpuppies says:

        Rimjob: There is no evidence that ivermectin works better than the specific anti-virals.

        Au contraire, Rimjob.
        Guess these people are lying and you know better than they.
        Stop it with your misinformation.
        You’re not that smart.

        https://www.weeklyblitz.net/health/indias-largest-state-sees-ivermectin-as-most-effective-medicine-for-curing-covid/

        #TrustUs
        #WeKnowBetter
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        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          Au contraire, Porter>SpitRoast<david…

          Stop it with your disinformation! Bad dog! Bad dog!

          from SpitRoast's citation, The Weekly Blitz, LOL… we get:

          as the Gateway Pundit noted, that Uttar Pradesh was the first state in India to introduce large-scale prophylactic and therapeutic use of ivermectin

          No way it could be the 1.4 billion vaccinations in India, could it?

          On the other hand, two months ago we see this from India.

          India’s governing medical body has endorsed a new policy ending the use of ivermectin for managing COVID-19

          SCIENCE | THE WIRE – The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), India’s leading medical research body, has revised its ‘Clinical Guidelines’ for COVID-19.

          Specifically, it removed mention of two drugs that a panoply of experts and non-experts had widely used and promoted both in India and worldwide, and which had also been ceaseless sources of controversy: ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ).

          The previous version of the national COVID-19 treatment protocols, dated May 17, 2021 (the one from which ICMR dropped the use of convalescent plasma) suggested that ivermectin and HCQ “may” be used despite “a low certainty of the evidence”.

          Anyway, Porter>SpitRoast<david, our claim was that there is no evidence that ivermectin is superior to the anti-virals, but we're hardly surprised you decided not to address that.

          • drowningpuppies says:

            Rimjob: No way it could be the 1.4 billion vaccinations in India, could it?

            Where did you get that?
            No one claimed that it did.
            You made it up (surprisingly).
            And yes the governing body did change their guidelines but that didn’t change the effectiveness of previous use, now did it?

            As mentioned before you’re not very smart.

            #Lets

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Porter>SpitRoast<david doesn't understand how India, a nation of 1.4 billion, could have administered 1.4 billion shots. Do your own research, buttwipe.

            So SpitRoast imagines that the regulatory body banned the use of ivermectin because it was working too well? Here’s your sign.

          • drowningpuppies says:

            From the article:

            The government of Uttar Pradesh, which has a population of more than 240 million, said Friday that 33 of its districts are “COVID-free” and the state has a total of only 199 active cases, the Hindustan Times reported.

            The state said the recovery rate for COVID-19 has improved to 98.7%.

            So where did you get the 1.4 billion vaccinations?
            Did you just use some of your Rimjob math?
            And no one claimed anything about ivermectin being “superior” to antivirals produced later on. It was used as a successful stopgap measure early on when nothing else was available.
            You’re not very smart.

            #LetsGoBrandon
            #FJB
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          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Down on the Corner: Ivermectin works better than Pfizer and Merck’s new pills

            Dowd: There is no evidence that ivermectin works better than the specific anti-virals.

            Puppy: (Copy and Paste from Dowd): There is no evidence that ivermectin works better than the specific anti-virals

            Puppy: Au contraire

            Weren’t you saying that there IS evidence that ivermectin works better than the Merck and Pfizer anti-virals?

          • drowningpuppies says:

            Rimjob: “But, but, but…”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5aBMtzJEIY

            #LetsGoBrandon
            #FJB
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  2. Dana says:

    Our distinguished host snarked:

    So, that’s science? What people can tolerate? No one seemed to have a problem forcing isolation a month ago?

    Yup, that’s the science . . . the political science! The authoritarians are learning, to their dismay, that Americans don’t take well to dictatorship, and they are seeing, both in the United States and abroad, broad resistance to these mandates. Reduce the isolation from ten days to five, and maybe, maybe! they can get fewer people to resist.

    Sort of like just fifteen days to flatten the curve, right?

    The actual numbers, with daily new cases having set another record, would indicate a nationwide shutdown was in order, but “they” know that such an order would never be obeyed again. So, now the elites have to try something, to show that they are Doing Something, but have to temper it with the knowledge that the people will take only so much.

    In the British patriotic song Rule Britannia, one of the lines of the chorus is “Britons never, never will be slaves!” Our fearless leaders are now discovering, to their utter dismay, that Americans never, never will be slaves!

    • Hairy says:

      Dana the omnicron variant is very transmitable but rarely kills. Based on thst it certainly would not to me indicate thst a nationwide shutdown is needed
      The first confirmed omnicron death was on Dec 24
      NYC testing has shown extremely high rates of positives, daily death rates are quite low 15 or 20 (as opposed to 3000+ back when it was “fake news) I think that “they” now know that omnicron is not a killer. “They” did not know this before. Now “they” and possibly you also, now know it, and have changed their guidelines.

      • Dana says:

        The Hirsute One wrote:

        the omnicron variant is very transmitable but rarely kills. Based on thst it certainly would not to me indicate thst a nationwide shutdown is needed

        The previous variants also rarely killed! Where is your ‘action point’ between a 1.6% fatality rate and whatever Omicron’s is?

        The greatest fatality rate was not to individuals, but to our constitutional rights. State governments were allowed — sadly, by some Republicans as well as Democrats — to stifle our rights to free assembly and free exercise of religion, and the left sagely nodded and said, “It is good.”

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          Dana: The previous variants also rarely killed!

          That is little comfort to over 800,000 American families.

          Untreated rabies is nearly 100% fatal, yet Covid-19 is more dangerous. Why? Because it is more prevalent!

          The same logic applies to the omicron vs delta variants. If every incompletely vaccinated American contracts the omicron variant we’d see 120 million infections! If the mortality rate is a mere 0.1% we’d see 120,000 more deaths. Is the omicron variant 1/10th as lethal as delta? That’s unknown. That ignores that hospitals are rapidly filling up with Covid patients which itself is a serious burden. Pediatric hospital cases are also increasing.

          Please encourage that everyone get vaccinated (2x + booster) and wear an effective mask where appropriate. It’s the best way out of our current situation. The FDA has granted EUA to two oral anti-virals that appear effective against SARS-CoV-2 infection if caught early, but it takes time to manufacture billions of tablets.

          Dana: The greatest fatality rate was not to individuals, but to our constitutional rights… stifle our rights to free assembly and free exercise of religion

          Again, over 800,000 families disagree with you. Is there a limit to the acceptable number of Americans to sacrifice on the altar of “freedom”? The worst affronts were temporarily limiting church attendance and forbiddance of some group gatherings?

          It was reported that drones in Elizabeth NJ were being used to monitor gatherings. I encourage everyone to keep a shotgun (12G, #2 shot) available to shoot gov’t drones out of the air and challenge any local government to to indict someone over it.

          Few of our Constitutional rights are absolute. The US has a long history of public health policies, including vaccinating children to allow public school attendance. When Americans returned from Africa with Ebola symptoms they were isolated against their will. Healthcare workers exposed to Ebola patients were forced to undergo testing, isolation and their contacts were also monitored.

          Our cell phone use and online use is available to police already, enabling the authorities to know where we are if needed for an investigation.

          • drowningpuppies says:

            Untreated rabies is nearly 100% fatal, yet Covid-19 is more dangerous.

            Solid Rimjob “logic”.

            #LetsGoBrandon
            #TrustUs
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          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Once again, SpitRoast, shows his lack of… well, just about everything.

            Porter>SpitRoast<david… No wonder SpitRoast "spins".

            #LetsGoSpitRoast
            #FRL
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  3. Hairy says:

    Teach you are woefully behind on current medical knowledge
    Smallpox vaccinations ( including the scheduled boosters) stopped in the USA in 1972 world wide in 1980.

    • L.G.Brandon says:

      Hairy: That is not medical knowledge, it’s DuckDuckGo facts. Smallpox was also a real disease killing about 30% of those infected, not 1.6%. The vaccine was also a real vaccine which wiped out the disease rather than wiping out freedom, economies, families and aiding in the illegal coup to install a radical leftist junta in the government.

  4. Dana says:

    L G Brandon wrote:

    The vaccine was also a real vaccine which wiped out the disease rather than wiping out freedom

    Amen to that!

  5. Hairy says:

    Freedom? Small pox vaccine was mandatory for foreign travel and to go to school, I am old enough to remember both. And also remember small pox boosters
    The death rate for small pox was very high, back when people were probably still using leeches to treat it and not ventilators.But science thankfully eradicated small pox
    Over 800000 US deaths and you don’t think covid is serious? Thanks for letting us know. Lol
    Science knowledge and understanding is always changing it is not static This is not like religious or political dogma.look how shocked MAGA cultveas when Trump said everyone should be vaccinated and boosted. Imagine if he had said climate was being changed by greenhouse gases!
    Brandon, do you not bieve thst covid is a real disease ?

    • L.G.Brandon says:

      Hairy: All the brainwashed stooges keep parroting that phony-baloney 800,000 dead Americans statistic. It’s all BS and has been. Even the CDC is a couple rare moments of honesty admitted as such but would never release the real true numbers to the public. I guess abot 20% of that 800,000 figure or 160,000 wouldn’t instill the fear and panic necessary to keep the brainwashed stooges in mortal terror and 24/7 panic mode.

      You stooges have no idea how close you are to the mindset that led the Germans to start murdering their neighbors. Fear is a powerful motivator but my freedom is more powerful than your fear. Maybe this could help slap some sense into you before you start killing people:

      https://youtu.be/INHpQL9fgto

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        NuCon: “If I disagree with the facts, the facts are wrong. Then I just make up my own ‘facts’.”

        In fact, compared to recent history, it’s likely the total count of Covid deaths is underrepresented. Google “excess deaths” for an explanation.

        LG Brandon: before you start killing people

        Brandon is the one suggesting that his political enemies need to be eliminated.

        Anyway, conservative anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers are committing suicide.

  6. Hairy says:

    Teach you definitely are lacking in medical knowledge: small pox was eradicated decades ago and no one gets or even can get vaccinations for that anymore

  7. drowningpuppies says:

    Now the FDA says their rapid tests for Covid antigens may be less sensitive in detecting the Omicron variant – causing ‘false negative’ results.

    The FDA solution: “Keep using them.”

    #TrustUs
    #ForYourOwnGood
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