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And it’s totally non-existent
The Dumbest Reactions to the Non-Existent Gas Stove Ban
And they’re totally not taking them away
We’re not taking away your gas stove, regulator tells CNN
It’s all a conspiracy theory from you Kooks
White House climate czar met privately with eco group pushing gas stove bans
White House climate czar Ali Zaidi, who also serves as an assistant to President Biden, privately met with three officials with the Colorado-based Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI), an environmental group pushing gas stove bans.
Zaidi met Jules Kortenhorst, RMI’s CEO at the time; John Coequyt, RMI’s government affairs director; and Sarah Ladislaw, RMI’s former managing director and U.S. program leader, on March 17, 2022, in the West Wing of the White House, according to visitor logs reviewed by Fox News Digital. The three officials have extensive records advocating for net-zero and climate policies weaning the U.S. off fossil fuels. (big snip)
“Across the United States, millions of homes and apartments rely on gas appliances for heating and cooking,” RMI states on its website. “Burning gas in buildings is not only a threat to climate action but also to human health, as these appliances are sources of indoor air pollution.”
RMI recently made headlines after it funded a study that highlighted public health dangers posed by gas stove usage. The study was cited in a Bloomberg article in early January that included comments from a Consumer Product Safety Commission member who told the outlet a gas stove ban was “on the table.”
Nah, just a conspiracy theory
(Laurel Leader Call) Well, it’s true. Weeks after being called kooks and conspiracy theorists to believe that the federal government was exploring banning gas stoves, it’s been proved true. The reasons cited for these bans were for safety. Somehow, after generations of using gas stoves, it is now a health hazard for young children. Paint us skeptical. Plus, if you have children and are concerned, by all means go get an electric stove. But if you are not concerned or do not have kids, who is being damaged?
Oh, we see, the environment. So this wasn’t actually about health, but another step toward bowing completely to some of the most evil, unhinged, self-important bunch of climate zealots to ever wander the Earth. It is the people who flock to exclusive resort towns, all flying private jets to gather and make each other feel important under a ridiculous guise of saving the planet. Make no mistake, they are ridiculous in their efforts. But they will not be satisfied until the entire planet is living in the Third World, except for the self-anointed “elites,” who will be just fine. How nauseating these people are.
Climate lunatics are winning the war on oil. They are winning the war on coal. By even proposing a ban of natural gas stoves, the war against that energy source has begun. At one time, not too long ago, natural gas was a coveted alternative to oil. What happened? Climate lunatics, that’s what has happened.
I don’t have one. Mine’s electric, despite there being gas lines for the furnace and fireplace (strangely, not for the water heater, either), but, I’d love to have one. But, I’ll survive, been cooking on electric since I went away to college. Regardless, the government needs to stay out of regulating every damned bit of people’s lives.
Our esteemed host tells us about his home:
Your range and water heater are electric, but do they have gas pipes available should you wish to change them out?
We have a propane range because Mrs Pico wanted one; we have a propane water heater and fireplace because when the sparktricity goes out here, it can be days before power is restored. If the power fails, we can still cook — though not use the oven — bathe and be warm. We learned this need the hard way.
Mr Teach, if I am correct, lives in town; when the power goes out for him, he’s unlikely to have to wait 4½ days for it to be restored, although some Texans recently found out that ice-laden power lines and tree branches can have their electric service out for days.
Mr. Dana is correct about Texas and the recent unpleasantness, the last few days was due to the usual suspects in an ice event. We have had our problems with unreliable wind and solar as well. Our home has gas heat, water heat, fireplace, and clothes dryer as well as about 10kw of generator.
As far as a gas cooker goes, most folks who like to cook or cook professionally prefer them. Better control and in the ‘higher end’ models, more power than common electric cookers. Most Asian kitchens use a gas setup with a high power ‘wok burner’, I’ve been told that they get up to around 50k btu on the pro models. Oddly though, electric ovens are often preferred by bakers.
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Do you gas heads think it is necessary to vent water heaters and furnaces? Why if it burns so clean?
Maybe Dana will explain why those are coded
You don’t cook on a gas furnace or water heater, so you do not need access to the direct flames. More, gas furnaces are burning more gas at a time than a gas range, and people do not use their stoves for nearly as long during the day as a gas furnace to keep the house heated in the colder months.
Teach is your gas furnace vented?
Aren’t you gas heads the same guys that previously told us that smoking and second hand smoke were safe? should I trust you on matters if combustion? ????
Dear H:
“Natural gas is lighter than air and rapidly dissipates into the air when it is released. When natural gas burns, a high-temperature blue flame is produced and complete combustion takes place producing only water vapor and carbon dioxide. It has a heating value of about 1000 BTUs per cubic foot.”
Gas appliances are vented because if the flame goes out and the gas continues to flow into the area, a very large explosion can occur and/or death due to suffocation
No charge for the education.
Mr Lewis wrote:
Gas furnaces and water heaters have, for decades now, had a device known as a thermocouple, which shut off the gas flow to the pilot light if the thermocouple didn’t sense the heat that the pilot light should generate. Modern gas appliances no longer use pilot lights, but an electric spark to ignite the gas flow, but even with those, the gas flow will be shut off if the appliance does not sense the proper heat.
Philly has seen a couple of residences blow up recently, which were always reported as gas explosions, but, at least in the last one, the gas company found no leak. I always suspect that it isn’t a gas explosion, but a meth lab blowing up.
As a child in the Missouri Ozarks a house down the street was blown of its foundation by what was termed a gas explosion. It was shifted off its foundation, windows and doors blown out. No fire. The house was “off-limits” but that didn’t stop us stupid kids from “investigating”. Our town DID have piped natural gas (methane) services for cooking, heating and hot water. I recall my parents lighting their cigarettes at the gas stove, which could explain my slow brain today!
Dear Dana:
And if the safety devices fail???
You have to realize how these safety devices work. They provide a safety signal to keep a valve open, and without that signal, the device defaults to closed. The thermocouple is more likely to fail in a manner which will not allow the pilot light to stay lit than to fail to close the valve if the flame goes out.
The simplest way to explain it is how air brakes have changed. In ancient times, if a truck lost air pressure, the brakes wouldn’t work and the truck was out of control. As these things were modernized, air pressure is used not to activate the brakes, but deactivate them; if the truck loses air pressure, the brakes lock up.
If you are at all familiar with solenoid systems, it’s the difference between a single and double solenoid. With a single solenoid, the device is in a closed position until there is a change in which the solenoid opens the system; with a double solenoid, a switch has to be activated to either open or close the system, and the system can stay open at any increment of closed to full open.
Mr Lewis I am pretty sure that Dana isn’t burning natural gas , but instead is burning propane. Propane is heavier than air.
I believe that furnaces and water heaters have exhaust vents for a different reason.
Perhaps Dana would like to explain why all gas furnaces and water heaters are always coded to vent their exhaust outside and not into a residence. Isn’ his to relieve the building of possibly harmful combustion by products? My understanding of commercial coding is limited by I believe that
ALL commercial gas stoves must also have hoods that are vented outside.
I did explain it to you; perhaps you missed it, but it’s in this thread, posted at 10:32 last night.
Yes, we have propane out here in the boondocks; there is no natural gas service out here.
Teach the study that is being done may restrict the buying of NEW gas stoves. Their are no plans to “Come and take away your gas stoves”
My guess is the first step will be regulations venting all new installations to the outside.
H wrote:
Range hoods are very much desired in kitchens, and most kitchen installations and remodels do have range hoods. You can buy range hoods, or over-the-range microwaves, which recirculate the air, with filters to catch aerosolized grease but which do virtually nothing to capture combustion products, and are really just meant to keep the kitchen cleaner. These devices are not against building codes.
When I remodeled our kitchen here, I installed a real range hood. Yes, the ceiling is low in our eastern Kentucky fixer-upper! It was fun threading the vent line up through the ceiling, across a ways, and then over to an exterior vent I installed in the gable end. I might have said darn and heck and even shoot a couple of times, but I got the job done.
When I said our house is a fixer upper, I mean it was a real fixer upper! My best guess is that the kitchen was originally a porch, judging from what I found in the walls when I opened them up. The house was built in 1927, or so I guess from the old newspaper used as insulation in an interior wall. I found a piece of an April 4, 1927 Louisville Courier-Journal in the wall.
The siding on the outside wall appeared newer, which, combined with that hillbilly insulation on an interior wall, is what makes me believe that the kitchen used to be an exterior porch.
The roof over the kitchen doesn’t have a gable end, and slopes down toward the windows. The wall where the range is is now an older remodel, and the bathroom is on the other side of it. That roof slopes downward as well. However, the oldest part of the house has the roof and ridgeline perpendicular to the roofline over the kitchen, and a gable end which stands proud of the mid 1990s remodel, and that’s where I had to fish the vent pipe for the range hood.
As Harrison Ford said in Six Days, Seven Nights, I’m not without skills.
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Methane, CH4, “natural gas”, home heating, cooking
Ethane, C2H6, rarely used as fuel
Propane, C3H8, “liquified petroleum or LP”, valuable fuel especially in areas with no natural gas service, BBQ grills!, heaters… Hank Hill (“Arlen” TX) sells “propane and propane accessories”!
Butane, C4H10, LP, used for cigarette lighters, torches, camp stoves etc
Johnny-do you find it necessary to ban new gas stoves after decades and decades of use? Where are all the bodies from the alleged pollution of using gas? Burning wood causes much more pollution than gas, anyway.
More Johnny-“do you think it necessary to vent gas water heaters and furnaces if it’s so clean”? Do you find it necessary to require circuit breakers for the electrical systems in homes if electricity is so safe?