It’s all fun and games till the guy the war hawks say is wackadoodle starts playing around with nukes. First, some Biden slobbering from the Atlantic
Biden Just Destroyed Putin’s Last Hope
The long-range missiles matter. So do the super-accurate artillery shells, the surface-to-air missiles, and the winter weather gear; the training in the English countryside or the muddy Grafenwöhr maneuver grounds; and the intelligence provided from the eyes in space and the ears on airplanes that circle outside the battle zone.
President Joe Biden’s visit to Kyiv matters just as much as any of these.
Other heads of government preceded him, earning deserved credit. But it is an altogether different thing when the president of the United States—who is, indeed, the leader of the Free World—shows up. His words mattered. He pledged “our unwavering and unflagging commitment to Ukraine’s democracy, sovereignty, and territorial integrity.” And even more important, that the United States will stand with Ukraine “as long as it takes.”
Symbols matter: a Kennedy or a Reagan at the Berlin Wall, a Churchill with a cigar and a bowler, for that matter a green-clad Zelensky growling, “I need ammunition, not a ride.” Simply by taking the hazardous trip to Kyiv, Biden made a strategic move of cardinal importance.
Good grief, they really just compared Biden showing up in Ukraine to real leaders. Anyhow, the rest is about The Atlantic fellating Biden, telling us how big and bad he is, leading to
Russia suspends only remaining major nuclear treaty with US
Russian President Vladimir Putin declared Tuesday that Moscow was suspending its participation in the New START treaty — the last remaining nuclear arms control pact with the United States — sharply upping the ante amid tensions with Washington over the fighting in Ukraine.
Speaking in his state-of-the-nation address, Putin also said that Russia should stand ready to resume nuclear weapons tests if the U.S. does so, a move that would end a global ban on nuclear weapons tests in place since Cold War times.
Explaining his decision to suspend Russia’s obligations under New START, Putin accused the U.S. and its NATO allies of openly declaring the goal of Russia’s defeat in Ukraine.
“They want to inflict a ‘strategic defeat’ on us and try to get to our nuclear facilities at the same time,” he said, declaring his decision to suspend Russia’s participation in the treaty. “In this context, I have to declare today that Russia is suspending its participation in the Treaty on Strategic Offensive Arms.”
Is this just hot air? Or something more? Because it’s rather dangerous to back Putin and Russia into a corner they cannot get out of, especially if he is as loony as they say he is. As K T Cat wrote “At some point in time, I’d like to have them explain why we’re risking nuclear war over two sclerotic, dying countries that are on the other side of the planet.”
Yeah, we get it: Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was wholly wrong. But that doesn’t mean that, on Ash Wednesday, pushing policies which could turn the whole world into ash are a good idea.
The Atlantic forgot to add the symbolism of a US President kowtowing to President Putin on the global stage, even requesting Putin’s assistance in the 2016 election.
If Mr Trump had stood strong against Putin we would not be in this position today. Elections have consequences.
Vladimir Putin chose to invade Ukraine expecting that nation to quickly surrender.
Yes, standing up to Putin is a risk. Giving in is likely a greater risk.
Freedom and democracy are worth some risks, right?
Rimjob: Freedom and democracy are worth some risks, right?
Right?
#ForYourOwnGood
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Dear Elwood:
Putin’s expansion started when Obama was president. It stopped during Trump’s tenure. It started again after Biden stole the election and took control.
Do you see a pattern there?
Do you remember the phrase, “Talk softly but carry a big stick?”
As an old man who fought Russia in the Cold War and who buried friends, I invite you to shut your mouth and join the military. Better yet, fly to Ukraine and join them.
Otherwise shut your cowardly pie hole. Talk is cheap when you know you will never have to fight.
The distinguished Mr Lewis wrote:
Mr Lewis, you just don’t get it: Mr Dowd once asked me if I was afraid of nuclear weapons, by which I inferred that he was not.
My answer: of course I’m afraid of nuclear weapons; as far as I am concerned, not being afraid of nuclear weapons is one definition of insanity.
Did I?
I agree with this guy. War mongers like Elwood should go fight himself. We have no interest in Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1628023288264794112
WILL YOU PLEASE STOP BLAMING EVERYTHING ON TRUMP. hE WAS JUST NOT THAT POWERFUL AND IF HE WAS WHY DID YOU VOTE AGAINST HIM?
Tim Pool at TimCast is a great watch. He is a liberal who has been pushed a bit right because the left as he puts it has abandoned their ideals he believed in.
Freedom of speech, freedom of the individual primarily. Anti-war.
Now people like Dowd are pounding the table for WAR with RUSSIA because? I suspect Dowd is actually someone who is paid to troll conservative websites. Most likely by the FBI.
If you do a search of his outted name, his picture has been removed from the internet. Even searching his year book from High School and college shows no picture of Dowd’s personally outted name.
So I take with a grain of salt anything Dowd says because I believe him to be a plant that spends 18 hours a day posting at this site.
Additionally you can find that his style and substance of writing changes during the day which suggests that more than one person uses the moniker of DOWD to post here attempting to get the mostly conservative people posting here to get angry and post threats, insults which then proves the point of the FBI that the right is a bunch of Angry old men who want to overthrow the government.
You, commentors are being baited, every bit as much as the J6 people and those that supposedly conspired to kidnap Whitmer who were found not guilty because the FBI was instigating both.
JUST LIKE DOWD does here night and day for years. I see this at other conservative websites as well, not just here.
Good call, Facts matter. The best way to deal with such a person is to block them from the site. Our host does not choose to do so. The second best way to deal with that sort is to simply ignore them. Many of the regular commenters here are unable to do that. Jeff is very effective at pushing their buttons. I find myself lured from time to time so I understand the motivation. An early theory of web site management that was discussed here about 5 years ago is that the host permits Jeff to continue here without limit because a web site needs a good foil to rile the masses and anger pays off big in traffic numbers for websites. Thus, if Mr Dowd did not exist, the host would have to invent him. I tend to reject that formula applies here since I don’t see any of the advertising here that is common among traffic-click-driven websites. Thus, I conclude that the host simply enjoys having his website and posting his posts and it amuses him to leave the comments to their own devices.
The Fake Perfesser makes a good point! Maybe I’ve been hired by Mr Teach to provoke the troglodytes.
The distinguished Mr Dowd wrote:
Define “some risks,” Mr Dowd. Some of us are concerned that “some risks” include a greater probability of thermonuclear war.
The reasonable Mr Dana asks us to define “some risks”.
Thermonuclear war is unlikely although there IS always a non-zero probability as long as there are nuclear weapons. Any risk is “some risk”. Clearly, the Earth would be better if there were absolutely NO nuclear weapons. Agreed?
Mr Dana is correct to be concerned about President Putin’s mental state, but he or his minions could at any time decide to push the button independent of US actions. No doubt Putin is happier when the US does what he wants. Any conflict between the US and Russia increases the risk of nuke use. Spying. Hostage taking. Economic and personal sanctions. Military exercises.
What if President Putin landed troops in the Aleutian islands, threatening that he would use nuclear weapons if the US returned fire? Is there any action, under the constant threat of thermonuclear war from Putin, that should prompt a response from the United States?
Should President Kennedy have just looked the other way when Khrushchev put missile installations in Cuba (after the US put nuclear missiles in Turkey!!)? No doubt we were on the brink of thermonuclear war.
Are there reasons other than the slightly (if any) increased risk of nuclear war and $111 billion spend that drives Conserv-Americans to support Putin’s annihilation of the Ukrainian people?
Defending Ukraine is NOT a threat to Russia, regardless of how humiliating it is to Putin.
Dear Elwood:
Putin’s expansion started when Obama was president. It stopped during Trump’s tenure. It started again after Biden stole the election and took control.
Do you see a pattern there?
Do you remember the phrase, “Talk softly but carry a big stick?”
As an old man who fought Russia in the Cold War and who buried friends, I invite you to shut your mouth and join the military. Better yet, fly to Ukraine and join them.
Otherwise shut your cowardly pie hole. Talk is cheap when you know you will never have to fight.
Thank you for your patriotic valor and service to this great nation. Your efforts were and are appreciated. You seem like a nice man, in general.
We understand your frustrations and that you would prefer not to argue about Putin’s unprovoked and lethal invasion of a sovereign nation, Ukraine, but demanding that others “shut (their) cowardly pie hole” is not really effective debate.
That said, this is a legitimate discussion to have. Note the arguments made by the reasonable Mr Dana who has legitimate concerns that President Biden’s obstinance could lead to nuclear war. Let’s be clear. This is a VERY serious issue and goes beyond juvenile name-calling and mockery.
President Obama was criticized by the American right for not intervening militarily in the Crimean peninsula. With your extensive cold-war military experience do you think sending US troops and/or materiel into Crimea in 2014 would have been wise? As it was, Obama enacted severe economic sanctions on Russia and specific Russians. We would like your input in what the US should do NOW and defer to your experience in global affairs.
Regardless, we will continue to comment here and apologize in advance if it makes you uncomfortable. BTW, I’m 70, BUT can still shoot straight!
What should the United States do NOW in response to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine? Many on the right think the US should withdraw all support. What say YOU?
President Biden won the election. There is no credible evidence otherwise. Did you hear that Trump’s SCOTUS just refused AGAIN to hear another lawsuit for reinstating Trump?
In the real world we have real problems TODAY: global warming, inflation, pandemics, supply chain, social media, children, healthcare, income/wealth inequalities, threats to democracy, wokeness BS, Putin, gun violence, China… we also have social forces driving citizens apart.
Dear Elwood:
How much of the world do you want to police??
Since you are so hot to fight Russia, you can, even at 70, convert all of your assets into cash and give it to Ukraine. The embassy is located at 3350 M Street NW, DC. There is a consulate in Chicago, a sort drive from St Louis. I’m sure they will accept your cash. And even at age 70 I’m, sure you could do useful work in Ukraine. Nursing services are undoubtedly needed. You will become very familiar with the smell of blood, scorched body parts and excrement. Trust me. The smells are distinctive.
I repeat. Putin’s expansion started when Obama was president. It stopped during Trump’s tenure. It started again after Biden stole the election and took control.
Do you see a pattern there?
Biden’s very evident weakness is very familiar to what happened after JFK’s meeting with Khrushchev in 1961.
Helping Ukraine defend itself against Putin is a good use of resources.
Trump was in the process of giving Putin all he wanted when the American people told him, “You’re fired!” Trump did not support NATO and talked about pulling the US out (music to Putin!). He tried to coerce Ukraine into investigating candidate Biden in exchange for defense support. Thanks Don! Putin wanted Trump re-elected in 2020 and would love his buddy elected in 2024.
So, President Biden is weak? Do you and the other America haters think Putin’s invasion is going to plan? The American voters fugged over Putin. LOL.
We paid lots of taxes to pay for your stupid invasion of Iraq and are still paying off that debt. We still pay lots of taxes.
Did you see action in Iraq or Afghanistan?
Jeff is a neocon now. The world is not enough.
Professor Fake is a pacifist now. He would give Hawaii to Xi and Alaska to Putin.
James Lewis
When 1000s of Americans were being killed in a stupid attempt to invade and occupy sovereign nations the right demanded 100% political allegiance to the current POTUS saying on foreign policy we speak with one voice
Zero troops have been ordered into combat. If they are, will you support them?
Teach and Dana seem to tell us that if a nation like Russia or North Korea have nuclear weapons they should be allowed to do whatever they wish. Dark Brandon says NO.
Lewis’s. Timeline leaves out the fact that Putin grabbed crimes after the pro Russian Ukrainian government fell. The Ukrainians had no ability to defend it. They aren’t asking for our blood only our weapons and money to survive as an independent country. ALL Europe is willing to help. We are giving them 31 of our 8000 Abrams tanks. Putin needs to be stopped now. Did we learn nothing about allowing Hitler to gobble up countries without confronting him earlier.
How much did Trump’s approval of Putin’s invasion by calling it “genius” give Putin the go ahead? No wonder Putin still supports Trump.
Putin is not Hitler. Putin is literally fighting against Nazis in Ukraine. You are literally defending Nazis in Ukraine. If you want to make WW2 comparisons you should probably learn something about WW2 first.
Clearly, Putin is not Hitler, literally or figuratively.
Putin has not yet murdered 6 million Jews, Roma, Russian and Poles as Hitler did. Can we all just agree that Adolf Hitler was sui generis in the pantheon of mass murderers/torturers? Yes, you can make arguments for Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin and Tojo, but Adolf Hitler stands out.
Neither the leaders nor the people of Ukraine are Nazis and the vile Putin is not now fighting Nazis. Putin is a liar, duh.
America’s Putin supporters such as Dr Hale repeat Putin’s propaganda.
That said, just like here in America, there ARE fringe right-wing neoNazi groups in Ukraine.
We get it, MAGAts need to yelp every lie they can to support the Trump/Putin invasion of Ukraine.
We see now that in desperation the defenders of Putin are now calling critics of Putin cowards for not joining the fighters in Ukraine!
Predictable. (And as a confession, we might have used that argument criticizing supporters of America’s unprovoked invasion of Iraq in the spring of 2003).
I don’t recall Mr Teach volunteering for service then. Nor did many of his loyal commenters who supported the invasion.
Commenters MAY recall that US troops actually DID fight and die in Iraq, which is NOT the case in Ukraine. It’s possible that some Putin-hating Americans HAVE taken their personal hardware and booked a flight to eastern Europe to support the defense.
Spend the Ukraine funds on the train wreck! Spend it on the homeless! Spend it at the border! Cry the conservatives.
How much did the ill-fated invasion of Iraq cost the US is lives and money? Were conservatives worried about the budget then? So why now? We had homeless then. We had immigration then.
The dishonest engineers of the ill-fated invasion of Iraq walk free as honored citizens. Perhaps the defense of Ukraine will be unsuccessful and the insane Putin will use nuclear weapons. It’s unlikely but a real threat. But the defense of Ukraine is not based on lies as was the invasion of Iraq.
I don’t recall Mr Teach volunteering for service then.
Recall when Rimjob (as Jeffery) lied about joining the US Army during the Vietnam War “in 1971” back when Trump was elected President.
Well then again maybe he doesn’t.
Tough guys never admit their lies.
(Does Mel know you lied about that?)
#Galera
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Neo-con Jeff now justifies his war.
You almost made some sense Elwood right up until you said: “We get it, MAGAts need to yelp every lie they can to support the Trump/Putin invasion of Ukraine.”
First of all Trump did not invade the Ukraine. He wasn’t even in office when Biden allowed it. (See, we can do that shit too).
There is no such thing as MAGATs they live only in your diseased mind. Many people from many races, persuasions and classes supported Trump just as those who supported rapist joey. (We can do that also).
One thing is certain, Putin didn’t say boo when Trump was pres because he knew Trump wouldn’t put up with it. Period!
Having Ukrainians in my family I can tell you they have always been pro Nazi and anti Soviet. Do you know why? Because they lived under Communist oppression for years and know exactly how bad commies are. In fact I had family who RAN FROM RUSSIA TO GERMANY in 1943 because the Nazis were BETTER than the commies!!!! They told me the stories. First hand witnesses and first hand victims so please don’t repeat your idiotic democommie propaganda to me I KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM.
The only people lying you idiot are the war mongers who want us in a war. Like you. You all figure if we get in a war while the moron Joey is in office the democommies can stay in power for decades. It’s all about the power and money with you people. Lives mean shit. Even American lives.
Once again you moron Nazis are national SOCIALISTS left wingers. Why is that so hard for you to understand? They are a socialist workers party :It’s in their name stupid!!!
Biden famously bragged that he pressured the Ukrainian government to fire Shokin by threatening to withhold $1 BILLION in American taxpayer money. These are the criminals you are supporting Elwood.
https://youtu.be/_jyT1rnW9fA
Yesterday while giving his BS speech in Keeeeve crazy joe gave, just gave, ZZelenskyyyy (the dancing nazi faggot) $500 million of OUR tax dollars. It went direct deposit to his Swiss account. You can bet on it. Where did the $105 billion we gave them so far go? Any audits? Or are the liars gonna treat this like the stolen election and just say fuck you to the American people while they steal our Social Security and give it to the nazi Ukes?
Trump lost the election, both the Electoral College vote and the popular vote by several million.
Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. In fact, according to conservative Repubicun candidate Nikki Haley, the Repubicuns have won only one national election out of the last 8!! Only the rurally biased EC allows any Repubicun to “win”. This gave us 9/11, the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions, the Great Recession, the Covid recession and Putin. Thanks Repubicuns.
Now, Repubicuns like you can’t tell facts from fancy. And you’re getting sicker by the day. You have given us Gosar, Gaetz, Traitor-Greene, Lorena Boebert, Gym Jordan and 100 more who have at least learned to keep the stupidity quiet.
You’re enraged and stupid.
I’m not enraged about anything and if there is any stupidity going around you got it cornered. My kids won’t be dying in the Ukraine. Those lousy rotten Red Stare families do that. While you leftist commies, nazis and assorted criminals live large.
You named five Republicans who are completely guilty of loving America. Can you name five democommies that feel the same? Nope. Among the democommies who fuck and fraternize with red Chinese, Cuban commies and other nefarious anti American buffoons’ you have people in your own party who are Marxists, communists, Muslims and other groups that hate America. Just like you do. And you and you party of hate tolerate and even celebrate these traitors.
Nobody’s perfect nor is any country but your hate for America, patriotic citizens and our heritage is about a perfect hate one can have.
You are now a war monger. Pro nazi. Anti American. You want Americans to die to protect Ukraine when that is Europe’s duty not ours. You would have American cities nuked to have the dems hold power. You are an evil person.
The Lefts “Women of color”. All communists, Marxists, fascists and Muslims. 100% democommies What can go wrong?
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The US is not sending troops to Ukraine. Nazis are not in control of Ukraine. There are more neoNazis in the US than in Ukraine.
So, you revere Gosar, Jordan, Boebert, Gaetz and Greene? Yikes. That tells me all I need to know. In addition, you claim Trump actually won the 2020 election! Perhaps you are not stupid, my apologies. Perhaps you are delusional.
Dear Elwood:
You truly are dumb.
Trump had Putin under control just like he had the invasion from the south drastically reduced.
Trump leaves and Putin invades and illegals start flooding in.
Do you not see the connection?
Junior is getting money from a Ukraine corp as a BOD member. A job that he had absolutely no qualifications for.
A crook is under investigation and Biden shows up and has the investigation stopped.
Are you so dumb as to not understand what Ukraine has on Biden???
Really Elwood???
Do I like Putin? No. Would I like to have him as a helper in the coming fight with Islamic radicalism??? Hell yes.
Do I want to force Putin to partner with China?? Hell no.
Elwood, countries have “Interests,” not love affairs. The battle between Russia and Ukraine is largely internal. As I said, Trump had Putin stopped. Biden is weak. Putin invaded. What he didn’t understand was how deep Ukraine’s control of Biden goes. We are now forcing Putin to China and Germany will not stand up.
It is not in our interest to allow Ukraine to run our foreign policy.
Grow up. Quit wrapping the flag around yourself. You’re staining it with all the blood the Left caused our military to shed in Vietnam and Korea.
Do you not see the connection?
#LetsGoBrandon
#FuckOhio
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Donald Trump was/is an agent of Putin. The American people told The Donald, “You’re fired!”.
Conmenter: Trump had Putin under control
LOL. President Putin HAD/HAS Trump under control. Perhaps President Putin had Trump by the short hairs. Perhaps Trump had strategic reasons for encouraging President Putin. NuCons now support President Putin because Trump supports President Putin. Not unlike Trump falling in love with Kim.
Trump admired/feared President Putin. Trump, like President Putin, wanted the United States out of NATO.
Grow a pair. Quit wrapping yourself in our flag. You’re staining it with all the blood the Right caused our men and women to shed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
By the way, we opposed the US invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam.
Donald Trump was/is an agent of Putin.
Rimjob just being incredibly silly.
As if the lying little coward gave a shit about Iraq, Afghanistan or Vietnam War?
Why did you lie about joining the Army, ya know during the Vietnam war?
#PervsPedos&KiddieDiddlers
#GrowAPair
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Dear Elwood:
Logical thinking is something you cannot do.
“Donald Trump was/is an agent of Putin. The American people told The Donald, “You’re fired!”.
So Putin with Trump under control waited until Trump was gone to knowingly go against the wishes of Biden???
Stupid is as stupid does.
First I’d like to thank Elwood and his communist usurper Joey The Hair Sniffer for making 2022 my best year in two decades. In fact this year will be even better now that we’ve entered the world of leftist “programs”. We now have over 3,000 “migrants” for whom we supply properties to rent all paid for by the feds to the tune of $2,000 per week per person. We now have over 300 renters. Do the math Elwood you douche. My share from last year was over 3 mil and we were just getting started. Thanks again for giving my partners and me this opportunity. We are now living like Democrats.
You claimed:
The US already has troops in Ukraine they just deny it. In case you haven’t noticed our government lies constantly about everything. Stop being the fool. ZZelenskyyyy is a nazi and he is in charge. He immediately closed churches and disbanded Christian priests. He also closed opposition TV and radio stations and censored opposing newspapers. He is a nazi. Just like you.
I never used the word “revere” did I. Once again you lie. I pointed out that they with all their faults LOVE AMERICA which is more than you or your commie party do.
Yes, I claim that Trump actually won the 2020 election and the fact that your anti American party is doing all it can to stop an audit and investigation proves it. The fact that your party is also doing all it can to stop Trump for running in 2024 also proves he won 2020., Had he lost and shitty joe was as great as you fools claim you would want Trump to run against him again because it would be a guarantee win. Especially with your election stealing operation already in place.
Why do you fear Trump? He just sent 4 trucks of water and such to Palestine, OH. He actually visited those Americans while commie biden went you suck off the nazi ZZZelenskyyy in Keeeeve to check that his money laundering scheme for the biden crime family continues uninterrupted.
You are an unrepentant liar Elwood, an anti American, a racist, a bigot, a nazi/commie and a hateful son of a bitch. And they are your good points.
People like you have been in power for decades in American cities and look at them. Now you want to do to America what you did to Baltimore and Detroit.
BTW, you also called me a coward when you know I have two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star and you called my wife a whore as well as wishing I would die from my COPD. You are a scared little piss ant. I also noticed you called a guy who is a first responder a cruel selfish coward. How many people have you pulled frim a burning house?
You exemplify the worst of us and sadly the best your side has to offer.
Kye, I can tell you with certainty that the US Army has uniformed and civilian employees in Ukraine today and that they are participating in combat there. Certainty. This is in addition to the mercenary “brigade” of mostly Americans fighting as contractors.